EPT[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 122
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 23 2012 23:49 Dandel Ion wrote: Gragas nerf makes me sad, Ziggs buff makes me happy. That's not even that significant of a nerf for Grag lol. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 23 2012 23:49 jcarlsoniv wrote: That's not even that significant of a nerf for Grag lol. It is. I'll have to sometimes watch my mana now. But I just wanna cruise. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
Boots + 3 -> dblade -> Phage -> dblade -> Aegis -> Bonetooth -> GA -> Fmallet -> hexdrinker game ended Was a long game got mercs somewhere in there too | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:06 Bladeorade wrote: Soooo I just jungled Rengar 1st time in ranked. QWWE W>Q>E. Double W's clear small camps instantly, Q clears big camps fast. I didnt go wriggles. Boots + 3 -> dblade -> Phage -> dblade -> Aegis -> Bonetooth -> GA -> Fmallet -> hexdrinker game ended Was a long game got mercs somewhere in there too Congrats on being one of the few people who understand that Rengars Q sucks except for the 1 initial point and maxing W is the best way to go. Makes me so mad when people don't even check the numbers of their skills and then complain that the champion doesn't do enough damage. http://www.lolpro.com/guides/rengar/370-rengar-build-guide-jungle-by-lexvink/abilities => Q>W>E -.- http://www.lolpro.com/guides/rengar/372-rengar-build-guide-top-by-westrice => Q>W>E -.- Would make me lose faith in the lol community if i still had some to lose. At least the jungle guide isn't using wriggles. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:24 Requizen wrote: Reapered new favorite streamer. Playing top Jayce and dat taste in music. Much more interesting than work. Thanks for this. Now I know what I'll be doing until my 1 meeting. | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
there is game on while on the lol stream is just nothing .... waited all the time :< | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the fact that lolpro throws out a guide day1 every champion is further proof of this. I played ~10 normals with a friend yesterday experimenting with Rengar, mixed feelings about the character. I honestly think he goes in the category of not bad but tons of better options, double bola strike is pretty strong, but his teamfights seem iffy, I just felt like Rengar got carried to 14 stacks by me or someone else dunking their lane, and then just becoming a monster off of that. In close games he felt invisible, hard to say tho this isn't my friends opinion, and in a lot of games when it's tight the jungler can feel invisible (hard to be objective). | ||
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:22 Morfildur wrote: Congrats on being one of the few people who understand that Rengars Q sucks except for the 1 initial point and maxing W is the best way to go. Makes me so mad when people don't even check the numbers of their skills and then complain that the champion doesn't do enough damage. http://www.lolpro.com/guides/rengar/370-rengar-build-guide-jungle-by-lexvink/abilities => Q>W>E -.- http://www.lolpro.com/guides/rengar/372-rengar-build-guide-top-by-westrice => Q>W>E -.- Would make me lose faith in the lol community if i still had some to lose. At least the jungle guide isn't using wriggles. ive never thought q doesnt do enough damage lol. rengar can kill squishies in 1 combo with max q and a few items. if you think q sucks you arent doing it right. hes got some of, if not the highest, single target burst out of the jungle. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:48 Vaporized wrote: ive never thought q doesnt do enough damage lol. rengar can kill squishies in 1 combo with max q and a few items. if you think q sucks you arent doing it right. hes got some of, if not the highest, single target burst out of the jungle. Q base damage: 30 / 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 W base damage: 75 / 120 / 165 / 210 / 255 1 point in Q is great and helps with burst due to AA-reset but it doesn't even compare to the W damage. Note that bonus damage from AD/AP doesn't scale with level. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:22 Morfildur wrote: Congrats on being one of the few people who understand that Rengars Q sucks except for the 1 initial point and maxing W is the best way to go. Makes me so mad when people don't even check the numbers of their skills and then complain that the champion doesn't do enough damage. http://www.lolpro.com/guides/rengar/370-rengar-build-guide-jungle-by-lexvink/abilities => Q>W>E -.- http://www.lolpro.com/guides/rengar/372-rengar-build-guide-top-by-westrice => Q>W>E -.- Would make me lose faith in the lol community if i still had some to lose. At least the jungle guide isn't using wriggles. Well tbh I think in lane maxing Q>W>E is best for better burst trading and you get a flat 15% health no matter what level of W | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Q is not a bad skill, but if you don't think it's the skill that gains the least from having ranks, you're kidding yourself. On August 24 2012 00:52 Bladeorade wrote: Well tbh I think in lane maxing Q>W>E is best for better burst trading and you get a flat 15% health no matter what level of W In lane you max E because it's a 575 range point-and-click nuke that slows. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:53 TheYango wrote: Q's CD also doesn't scale, while W and E do. Q is not a bad skill, but if you don't think it's the skill that gains the least from having ranks, you're kidding yourself. Perhaps it gains the least but I dont think E is the great ranged poke we thought it would be. I would much rather have Q EMP Q for trading On August 24 2012 00:53 TheYango wrote: Q's CD also doesn't scale, while W and E do. Q is not a bad skill, but if you don't think it's the skill that gains the least from having ranks, you're kidding yourself. In lane you max E because it's a 575 range point-and-click nuke that slows. I have to disagree. It is a ranged nuke that slows and perhaps is best for people that have no gap closer, but against anyone with a gap closer I feel you are better off with Q max for Q emp Q and using E for sticking to them not for poking. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:48 Vaporized wrote: ive never thought q doesnt do enough damage lol. rengar can kill squishies in 1 combo with max q and a few items. if you think q sucks you arent doing it right. hes got some of, if not the highest, single target burst out of the jungle. K, you can go max Q first in jungle instead of maxing W and clearing the jungle ridiculously faster. Even in lane I'd rather max E before Q. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:55 Bladeorade wrote: I have to disagree. It is a ranged nuke that slows and perhaps is best for people that have no gap closer, but against anyone with a gap closer I feel you are better off with Q max for Q emp Q and using E for sticking to them not for poking. E scales cooldown. When your trading power is heavily centered around the scenario where you have 4-5 Ferocity, scaling CDs which increase the frequency of having 4-5 Ferocity is more important than a token amount of extra damage on Q. Though TBH, even in lane, it might be better to max W for insta-clearing power. That and a 60 armor/MR steroid also wrecks trades, particularly on people that have to commit to it. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 24 2012 00:22 Morfildur wrote: Congrats on being one of the few people who understand that Rengars Q sucks except for the 1 initial point and maxing W is the best way to go. Makes me so mad when people don't even check the numbers of their skills and then complain that the champion doesn't do enough damage. http://www.lolpro.com/guides/rengar/370-rengar-build-guide-jungle-by-lexvink/abilities => Q>W>E -.- http://www.lolpro.com/guides/rengar/372-rengar-build-guide-top-by-westrice => Q>W>E -.- Would make me lose faith in the lol community if i still had some to lose. At least the jungle guide isn't using wriggles. Battle Roar Deals 120/75/255/210/165 (+1*AP) magic damage to enemies in the area. Grants 20/30/40/50/60 Armor and Magic resist for 3 seconds if an enemy is hit. Pshh why would you max battle roar when it deals the most damage at rank 3? I haven't played the champ but considering the spotlight said to, I'd probably try Q max first, and now that I've heard argument on TL, look at the numbers and then decide whether I wanted W or E max. And yes, guides generally suck. It's disappointing to hear that Rengar is a bad champion, but after hearing that his Q gives bonus aspd, if only briefly, I have hope for him. I think he has the skillsets to do what a bruiser needs to do in lane, jungle, and late game. Slightly worse late game if jungling due to lack of gold. | ||
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