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Whenever I go Jungle Ali i do a specific mastery page;
15/14/1 taking
Offense:
2/2 Minion Damage, 3/3 AD, 4/4 CD, 4/4 Atk spd, 1/1 Arpen, 1/1 10%MPen,
Defensive:
3/3 Armor, 1/1 Smite Mastery, 2/2 Minion Damage, 4/4 HPlvl, 1/1 Flat HP, 2/2 Incoming Dmg, 1/1 Bladed
Utility:
1/1 Flash Mastery
Pretty good balance of offense/defensive and flash mastery because you're going to be using it constantly for your ganks all game.
Runes are; Atk spd reds, Flat Armor yels, Flat MR blues, AP or MS, AP is better early game, MS is better whole game.
AP Jungle Ali is also fun and viable, +27 AP at level 2 makes your ganks super super deadly;
Switch the 3/3 AD in mastery for 3/4 AP, MPen reds instead of Atk spd, AP instead of MR blues, Flat AP quints
Build kages + philo instead of standard philo + hog, into sheen, Deathcap, DFG, Lich Bane. Void Staff. This build is very squishy compared to the standard support build but it snowballs very hard and wrecks kids ^___^ although it heavily relies on you getting fed via ganks or you won't have enough money to buy any of these items
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Only 6 minutes left in the same login queue I was in over 2 hours ago! Yay!
(In before I get a Maestro error or some shit and I have to re-queue.)
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On June 23 2012 10:58 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 10:52 Bladeorade wrote:On June 23 2012 10:48 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
For those having trouble on NA, may I recommend the PBE?
On a different note, what is jungle Ali like? As in, his clear speeds, routes, etc. Not very familiar with how he operates and I feel he can't just camp lanes. Whether you're Blue/Purple would probably also influence that lanes he camps for that lvl 2/3 gank. Pretty quick early on, Q + passive clears small camps fast. He just sucks at buffs. His ganks before your 1st back are really strong, if he can get behind you and W you forward and not have to WQ combo then you are almost 100% dead Hm interesting. Ok. What sort of runes and masteries would you go then? Would it be like Blitz where you have to have super niche runes or can you just run something standard like 21/9/0 with full flat AD?
Lilballz jungle Ali: 0/21/9, ASpd marks, Armor Yellows, MR/lvl Blues, MS quints
The 0/21/9 and MS quints are crucial because Ali has shit base MS for a melee jungler (305 compared to 320 or 325 for most relevant champs). Making up the difference with MS masteries is pretty important. Being faster than someone or not can mean the difference between being able to walk->Pulv vs. having to Flash for it.
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What "very specific" page do you "have" to use on Blitzcrank?
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On June 23 2012 11:32 SafeWord wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 03:18 MooMooMugi wrote:On June 23 2012 03:11 SafeWord wrote:
Man I havent been on LoL all week, its still messed up? Login Queues are long Various champion bugs: Lee sin, Maokai, Karthus, Vayne, etc. You might be missing your champions/skins/runes/and or masteries Potential of server crashing AGAIN for the 5th time this week at any given time o god o.o
don't forget that DCs are now super common. and LoL can and will crash on start up a few times.
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On June 21 2012 09:49 Alaric wrote:
What the fuck, is that a baron buff or bug? O.o It attacked at more than 2 AS.
I'll take "things that would've been good to know beforehand" for 500, Alex.
How to break Baron in a patch designed for QoL?
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fuck this server dammit... come home after 2 weeks to this
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I can never get a 100% success rate on Alistar W-Q combo. It makes me stray away from Ali jungle/support
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Oh man, just remember how much I love Gragas...
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From watching streams, baron doesn't actually attack at his weird increased rate unless you have 4+ people in the pit. It's possible they made the change so you can't just stop attacking baron when he gets low to bait in the enemy jungler, otherwise he'll fuck you up.
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On June 23 2012 12:44 dukethegold wrote:
I can never get a 100% success rate on Alistar W-Q combo. It makes me stray away from Ali jungle/support
Honestly I hate that combo on him... I feel like it just wastes a move. Sometimes I think it is better to just walk up to them and Q, because the range is imba, or just burning your flash. The W back into team is what makes his CC strong, not the knock up.
Speaking of all this jungle ali talk, I don't understand why he is becoming so FotM. I have been doing that since I started LoL and no one ever thought it was that good. Yes he's crazy strong and yes he's incredibly annoying, but he isn't broken or anything.
Now ali blitz bottom, that shit is broken
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On June 23 2012 12:54 Juddas wrote:
Honestly I hate that combo on him... I feel like it just wastes a move. Sometimes I think it is better to just walk up to them and Q, because the range is imba, or just burning your flash. The W back into team is what makes his CC strong, not the knock up.
Having a 650 range gap closer is a pretty significant tool to have for a gank. You can't always walk->Pulv when ganking a lane without them reaching tower, and you also don't want to haphazardly burn Flash ganking. WQ lets you combine your gap closer and stun without giving the opponent a chance to Flash away, which can give your laner(s) enough time to burst your target.
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Oooh but it just feels so wasteful... Although thinking back on it some more, I do sometimes do that if I know they would make it to tower or if we are chasing in general. I just rarely ever do it to initiate.
So junglestar, what do people build on him nowadays?
I have been going boots 3, philo, HoG, sometimes chalace, depending on how much I plan on ganking mid, and then whatever I feel like. Almost always upgrade boots to mobility and fairly early.
Oh and I also saw someone say they start Q? This baffled me lol. You clear the first camp faster with an E start, plus you have sustain. On Blue side I like to start Blue then wolves wraiths red then either mid or golems + bot @ lvl 3. This seems like a much stronger gank and if there isn't anything pushed you can keep jungling because of your built in sustain. 9/12/9 btw
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On June 23 2012 12:50 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
From watching streams, baron doesn't actually attack at his weird increased rate unless you have 4+ people in the pit. It's possible they made the change so you can't just stop attacking baron when he gets low to bait in the enemy jungler, otherwise he'll fuck you up.
They would never do such a radical change unannounced.
Moreover, I had a game earlier with 5 people in the pit and it took me from nearly full hp to dead in a matter of seconds.
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On June 23 2012 11:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so has anyone logged into NA?
I started the queue an hour before the Greece vs Germany game, I got in shortly after that game finished. Been online ever since.
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FUCK YOU RIOT, MY FRIENDS HAVING A SHITTY DAY AND YOUR LOG IN QUE IS MAKING IT WORSE
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On June 23 2012 13:24 Nos- wrote:I started the queue an hour before the Greece vs Germany game, I got in shortly after that game finished. Been online ever since.
Not that long but did the same procedure :D
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I feel sorry for the EUW people who're new to the game. There's a 90% chance of having multiple people from NA playing in their games and every game I've been in so far, a stomp has occurred on one side. It's especially bad since this week has graves/leona free so NA duos can easily go and crush bottom lane with level 1 accounts.
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I just had a game where baron wiped out 4 of us without enemy team interfering 
But it gets better - the enemy team comes and tries to do baron and dies to it.
Baron too op
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On June 23 2012 13:27 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:FUCK YOU RIOT, MY FRIENDS HAVING A SHITTY DAY AND YOUR LOG IN QUE IS MAKING IT WORSE
i am shocked that the guy who needs to keep eating after downing 2 chili dogs did not have sex today.
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