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On May 24 2012 00:56 Deltablazy wrote:
What is this? Hecarim has a strong early game? Please do elaborate on that, I viewed him as a weak jungler for quite a while (compared to udyr).
I wouldn't say he's Udyr or Naut level best jungle in the game, but he's definitely on the strong side. There's a bit of comparison with Shy, where he has fast clears (faster now), strong damage and dueling, and is fast moving, but with good positioning his ganks can be way way better than hers. Plus, his W gives him amazing tower dive potential at low levels, some of the best out there. His level 6 gank is just brutal. He also works well with Phage and Hexdrinker, two of the biggest midgame items for junglers, and can snowball with TF if he gets early kills.
Later on, his ult -> W combo is brutal as a teamfight initiate or follow up, so he doesn't really fall off either.
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On May 23 2012 22:19 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:01 TheLink wrote:On May 23 2012 21:50 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Watching sv's stream
oh look, another asshole
It's sad that it's an actual surprise when you have a high elo player that's actually nice. SCARRA FOR LIFE Vicious is a dick but at least he's somewhat charismatic. Gosu Pepper, Krepo, Reginald, Doublelift and most of the no-team high elo players all have no redeeming features in solo-queue. If you want nice you can't go past Yellowpete. I fucking love that guy. Snoopeh aswell, such a positive attitude and very very calm.
And that Irish accent, hot damn.
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On May 24 2012 01:31 unichan wrote:
is it just me or is this new champion fucking retarded
a) ult has 1.5 dmg ratio
b) ult does true damage (why?)
c) ult's cooldown REFRESHES
also he gets passive armor pen, and i didn't really look at passive but that shit looks OP too
Sounds fair. Totally just u.
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Kinda suprised by the Morg changes, shes good, but idk I thought people had stopped complaining about her. 30%>20% is a pretty big drop, especially taking into account all her offence has pretty long cooldowns.
also, I get the whole op ult and passive and whatnot, but any info on Darius in lane would be nice. does he trade with Riven/olaf? can he deal with harass from ranged champions?
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On May 24 2012 00:56 Deltablazy wrote:
What is this? Hecarim has a strong early game? Please do elaborate on that, I viewed him as a weak jungler for quite a while (compared to udyr).
Hecarim is a ganker, not a farmer like Udyr. He's similar to Rammus in that he can quickly and severely punish enemies who are even slightly overextended due to how quickly he can enter a lane. The major difference between Rammus and Hecarim being the latter brings damage where the former brought CC.
The problem with Hecarim is that he isn't a faceroll champion. His ganks, tankiness, and teamfighting all depend upon careful positioning and ability timing. All such champions tend to be unpopular until someone busts them out in a tournament or uses them to reach the top 25.
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On May 24 2012 01:20 Ziken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 00:44 ishboh wrote:On May 24 2012 00:38 Ziken wrote:On May 24 2012 00:34 ishboh wrote:
omg cho got another buff, yesssssss I'd say its a nerf anyday, considering you cant have invisible ruptures anymore ._. could you before? i thought that opponents could always see ruptures, even in the brush (they just couldn't hear them right?) also i figured the red/green would be for which units are hit during targeting, not on the field? i dunno. While its true the only difference of rupturing from the brushes is the sound, a lot of ppl are really terrible and rely on the sound. Moreover, while it is quite easy to dodge rupture since the animation is painfully obvious, you have a chance of catching them offguard if they are already engaged or in a teamfight where the animation might not be clear, but basically, if i understand the changes right, the cast time is reduced buy .35 seconds and there is now a clear indicator of the rupture which imo, will make it ridiculously hard to land vs decent players. Will try it out when EU gets patched but im not happy 
What? The delay was decreased by only 0.05 seconds, not even a tenth of a second. And people didn't even need an indicator to know the rupture was coming. Either you saw Cho coming and expected it to come, or you just flat out saw the ground and heard it. It was way too easy to dodge before and having the indicator won't really change the chance of hitting it that much imo. I do think the delay change was good though since it'll go from like 5% hits to 20% (random number) which is better than being almost entirely binary.
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On May 24 2012 01:38 MyTHicaL wrote:
Waiting for this patch to come out on EU, but from what I've read Darius is the new auto ban champion in ranked? ;o. Garen V2.0
hehe he's probably the terminator Garen from the future
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Just played a game with the new graphics. its going to take some time getting used to and I wish they made the HUD text a little more clearer, its very blurry atm. Its nice having 40~ FPS after averaging 20 before this patch though
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So ive been saving up for fiora but im almost tempted to get darius with how strong everyone is saying he is. Should i just get fiora as shes got a known base and been worked out a bit more on what she can and cant do and is known for being a strong pubstomper. Or do i pick up the total unknown that its seemed to be agreed on will get nerfed cuz his ult is op bullshit
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On May 24 2012 02:03 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 00:56 Deltablazy wrote:
What is this? Hecarim has a strong early game? Please do elaborate on that, I viewed him as a weak jungler for quite a while (compared to udyr). Hecarim is a ganker, not a farmer like Udyr. He's similar to Rammus in that he can quickly and severely punish enemies who are even slightly overextended due to how quickly he can enter a lane. The major difference between Rammus and Hecarim being the latter brings damage where the former brought CC. The problem with Hecarim is that he isn't a faceroll champion. His ganks, tankiness, and teamfighting all depend upon careful positioning and ability timing. All such champions tend to be unpopular until someone busts them out in a tournament or uses them to reach the top 25.
Y u not 2.5k elo with hecarim?
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I expected magic fps numbers, but I still get the same pre and post patch. =/
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On May 24 2012 02:23 cascades wrote:
I expected magic fps numbers, but I still get the same pre and post patch. =/
It increased the FPS rate for low end machines so people like me playing on a laptop with shitty integrated graphics card, if you already have decent FPS I dont see it changing much
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On May 24 2012 02:18 BlackPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:03 Seuss wrote:On May 24 2012 00:56 Deltablazy wrote:
What is this? Hecarim has a strong early game? Please do elaborate on that, I viewed him as a weak jungler for quite a while (compared to udyr). Hecarim is a ganker, not a farmer like Udyr. He's similar to Rammus in that he can quickly and severely punish enemies who are even slightly overextended due to how quickly he can enter a lane. The major difference between Rammus and Hecarim being the latter brings damage where the former brought CC. The problem with Hecarim is that he isn't a faceroll champion. His ganks, tankiness, and teamfighting all depend upon careful positioning and ability timing. All such champions tend to be unpopular until someone busts them out in a tournament or uses them to reach the top 25. Y u not 2.5k elo with hecarim?
I've been too busy saving the world from Deckard Cain.
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On May 24 2012 02:17 Kyhron wrote:
So ive been saving up for fiora but im almost tempted to get darius with how strong everyone is saying he is. Should i just get fiora as shes got a known base and been worked out a bit more on what she can and cant do and is known for being a strong pubstomper. Or do i pick up the total unknown that its seemed to be agreed on will get nerfed cuz his ult is op bullshit
Get Fiora. She's not the best top, but she can do pretty well, since most people don't know what to do against her (no one uses her).
Darius will be auto-banned or picked before you pick him. Come next patch, he'll be nerfed into hell and get wrecked by most champs.
Alternatively, you could wait a bit and maybe he won't get nerfed too hard. He still seems like a pretty fun champ.
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On May 24 2012 02:01 Slusher wrote:
Kinda suprised by the Morg changes, shes good, but idk I thought people had stopped complaining about her. 30%>20% is a pretty big drop, especially taking into account all her offence has pretty long cooldowns.
also, I get the whole op ult and passive and whatnot, but any info on Darius in lane would be nice. does he trade with Riven/olaf? can he deal with harass from ranged champions?
wah wah morg players lose 10% spellvamp. This just in 20% spellvamp is still ridiculously strong for a passive. imagine if kennen had that passively, or cass, or raka, or any of those guys, it'd be ridiculous!
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way to name 3 characters who get significantly more out of vamp due to spammable spells... I even mentioned that in my post and you went right for an un-make-able point. btw it is really strong for a passive, and I don't think it makes her weak or anything I just found it suprising that now they did it, when I haven't been hearing Morg complaints as much lately.
Morg will always be strong unless they touch spellshield imo, far more annoying than her vamp.
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On May 24 2012 02:30 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:18 BlackPaladin wrote:On May 24 2012 02:03 Seuss wrote:On May 24 2012 00:56 Deltablazy wrote:
What is this? Hecarim has a strong early game? Please do elaborate on that, I viewed him as a weak jungler for quite a while (compared to udyr). Hecarim is a ganker, not a farmer like Udyr. He's similar to Rammus in that he can quickly and severely punish enemies who are even slightly overextended due to how quickly he can enter a lane. The major difference between Rammus and Hecarim being the latter brings damage where the former brought CC. The problem with Hecarim is that he isn't a faceroll champion. His ganks, tankiness, and teamfighting all depend upon careful positioning and ability timing. All such champions tend to be unpopular until someone busts them out in a tournament or uses them to reach the top 25. Y u not 2.5k elo with hecarim? I've been too busy saving the world from Tyrael.
Wow spoilers bro :/
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On May 24 2012 02:27 MooMooMugi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:23 cascades wrote:
I expected magic fps numbers, but I still get the same pre and post patch. =/ It increased the FPS rate for low end machines so people like me playing on a laptop with shitty integrated graphics card, if you already have decent FPS I dont see it changing much
Yeah I am on a shitty machine like you. Which is why I am all =( and ?_? and T_T when the fps no change.
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On May 24 2012 02:37 sRapers_ValkS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:01 Slusher wrote:
Kinda suprised by the Morg changes, shes good, but idk I thought people had stopped complaining about her. 30%>20% is a pretty big drop, especially taking into account all her offence has pretty long cooldowns.
also, I get the whole op ult and passive and whatnot, but any info on Darius in lane would be nice. does he trade with Riven/olaf? can he deal with harass from ranged champions? wah wah morg players lose 10% spellvamp. This just in 20% spellvamp is still ridiculously strong for a passive. imagine if kennen had that passively, or cass, or raka, or any of those guys, it'd be ridiculous!
Yarrr let's give this passive to kennen so he can't stun anymore, seems legit!
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On May 24 2012 02:51 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:30 Seuss wrote:On May 24 2012 02:18 BlackPaladin wrote:On May 24 2012 02:03 Seuss wrote:On May 24 2012 00:56 Deltablazy wrote:
What is this? Hecarim has a strong early game? Please do elaborate on that, I viewed him as a weak jungler for quite a while (compared to udyr). Hecarim is a ganker, not a farmer like Udyr. He's similar to Rammus in that he can quickly and severely punish enemies who are even slightly overextended due to how quickly he can enter a lane. The major difference between Rammus and Hecarim being the latter brings damage where the former brought CC. The problem with Hecarim is that he isn't a faceroll champion. His ganks, tankiness, and teamfighting all depend upon careful positioning and ability timing. All such champions tend to be unpopular until someone busts them out in a tournament or uses them to reach the top 25. Y u not 2.5k elo with hecarim? I've been too busy saving the world from Tyrael. Wow spoilers bro :/
Yeah bro, spoilers not cool. I was thinking of buying that game...
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