EPT[Patch 1.0.0.140: Darius] General Discussion - Page 30
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Juddas
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 26 2012 14:54 Juddas wrote: I'm not sure I understand how you could say AD sion farms badly... His E allows him to last hit so easily it's ridiculous.... I mean I see how he could get harrasses out of lane, but farming is easy with him for me. Actually every time I'm on a bad a bad losing streak or am not playing well, I'll pick Sion and get a free win or something. He's who I play best with. Regarding him, has anyone tried a DSheild open? That's what I do if most of the time, and I take TP so whenever I get about 2k gold I will b and get a wriggles and boots. I really think that item is underrated in general with the recent nerfs to the other two, and I think it is more worthwhile than a cloth 5 open. I open that on some of my jungles too. Underrated item for sure. farming isn't just about last hitting. being able to stay in lane is much more important. AD sion can't trade with the vast majority of popular champs until he gets a good amount of items. | ||
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Juddas
768 Posts
On May 26 2012 15:27 Ryuu314 wrote: farming isn't just about last hitting. being able to stay in lane is much more important. AD sion can't trade with the vast majority of popular champs until he gets a good amount of items. but he farms at tower so well.... I dont understand how you could ever be pushed out of lane as him unless it's a teemo, vlad, kennen or yorick. Those are the only ones I could see actually being able to make him b. Everyone else just makes it a farmfest, because he can just stay at tower all day and farm, if anyone tries to dive he's got a stun and sheild. And about the trading bit, he can trade with a fair bit of people imo. No you don't want to be taking all that much damage but once you get wriggles it doesn't matter anyways.... | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 26 2012 15:34 Juddas wrote: but he farms at tower so well.... I dont understand how you could ever be pushed out of lane as him unless it's a teemo, vlad, kennen or yorick. Those are the only ones I could see actually being able to make him b. Everyone else just makes it a farmfest, because he can just stay at tower all day and farm, if anyone tries to dive he's got a stun and sheild. And about the trading bit, he can trade with a fair bit of people imo. No you don't want to be taking all that much damage but once you get wriggles it doesn't matter anyways.... You know, this may come as a total shock to you but some people can actually freeze their lane and deny you a lot of farm, and certain champs can harass you under your tower, they dont need to dive you. | ||
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Juddas
768 Posts
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
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Juddas
768 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On May 26 2012 16:43 Juddas wrote: Maybe everyone I play sucks then, because I can usually become a bully at levels 4 or 5 and really dont get denied too hard the first few Where would this experience be coming from exactly may I ask? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
5 ranked games with cho, 5 completely different item builds, 5 huge KDAs and all victories cho'gath mastery | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On May 26 2012 16:56 MooMooMugi wrote: 7/1/5, 3/4/9, 3/0/4, 3/1/0 is huge KDA? Pretty much a Frozen heart in all builds, you want to see unique Cho build look at Ocelote go On-Hit Attackspd Chogath now thats unique seen 5hit doing that before ocelote was even heard of | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 26 2012 17:01 arb wrote: seen 5hit doing that before ocelote was even heard of HSGG was doing that before ocelote too | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pa0mZ.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QR8YO.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8vNub.jpg) Did someone mention weird builds? | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
Also you can't see it, but I have 4 different Chogath pages for my account... | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 26 2012 16:31 Juddas wrote: lol no need to be sarcastic, I'm just trying to say he actually can do really well in a lot more matchups than people realize.... Yeah but saying it just turns in a farmfest because he can farm under turret is kinda silly when he can just get denied a lot of cs. Not really a farmfest, more like a farm desire. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
cho builds that use autoattacks are a lotttt better than the tanky builds lategame, just has more scaling | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
If you're tanky enough already and want DPS on Cho, ASpd. If you're tanky enough already and want burst on Cho, AP. If you're not tanky enough already on Cho, Frozen Heart. If you want to be awesome, Triforce. Not limited to Cho. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On May 26 2012 17:26 BlackPaladin wrote: Why was that ww rushing frozen heart vs a chogath...? Even if you rushed gunblade....really, why would he do that? l0l I'm pretty sure I was mid and kennen was top that game note the dominated veigar | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
When I played as Jax Olaf pushed a bit and hit 2 before me so he attacked, I hold it off, but my jungler wanted to gank (still not sold on Shyv level 3 ganks...), we saw theirs coming (Lee Sin) but he went in anyway, making me commit with him... only to flash out immediatly et let me get killed 1v2. He then got dived and gave another kill. Again, lost before I can get a feel for the match-up. When I look at it, I guess it's kind of awareness-based, as Olaf's E (+ aa if you turn) is more damage than Jax can do with aa+W early on, but with Jax's E+W you can outtrade Olaf if you run at him when he uses E and disengage right before his E cd comes back (obviously you can't do that too easily as levels rise and cooldowns get shorter). But maybe I'm wrong and assuming equal skill and knowledge of the match-up one side is heavily-favored? | ||
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