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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
May 01 2012 20:42 GMT
#261
On May 02 2012 05:25 TheYango wrote:
Personally I think it's just a damn shame that Taiwan and Hong Kong get lumped into a single qualifier for only 1 spot, so TPA and CG can't both qualify.


CG's played in a lot of Chinese tournaments so maybe they'll try to qualify through both? Probably not though since it'll be like the Jatt-WCG thing all over again.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 01 2012 20:49 GMT
#262
"Surrender Vote Failed" message no longer appears to the enemy team


Riot cutting down all the fun.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 20:51:37
May 01 2012 20:49 GMT
#263
Would it be foolish to think that Riot would hold the Season 2 championship at the Staple's Center in LA?

There is a gap for 10/12-10/16
http://staplescenter.com/events

The only other place is the LA convention center which only has 10/13 free
http://www.lacclink.com/lacclink/Events_Calendar.aspx
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#264
On May 02 2012 05:49 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
"Surrender Vote Failed" message no longer appears to the enemy team


Riot cutting down all the fun.

Eh, I think it kinda promotes flaming/trolling which is what they don't want ideally. I always thought it would be nice if disconnects only showed up for allies. Your still down a player but at least the other team doesn't know it's a 4v5 immediately.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 01 2012 20:56 GMT
#265
On May 02 2012 05:49 nojitosunrise wrote:
Would it be foolish to think that Riot would hold the Season 2 championship at the Staple's Center in LA?

There is a gap for 10/12-10/16
http://staplescenter.com/events

The only other place is the LA convention center which only has 10/13 free
http://www.lacclink.com/lacclink/Events_Calendar.aspx


The staples center is massive...

Would we really get 20k people to promote LoL? I'm not so sure.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 01 2012 21:00 GMT
#266
I had a Kat go afk under her tower at lvl1 the other day. The enemy mid let us know in all chat before she dc'd. We some how managed to win that game too. I think it had something to do with our Yorick making it a 5v5 in team fights.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 01 2012 21:00 GMT
#267
why cant other people invite now?
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 21:12:49
May 01 2012 21:12 GMT
#268
i don't know how practical it would be, but ideally, wouldn't an adequate solution for spectating a friend's game would be to spectate it real time, but only from the friend's team's perspective? i feel like it's not that much fun to watch a friend's game and be like oh shoot. this and that happened. when the friend who's playing it is 3 minutes ahead of the action and subsequently is trying to focus on what's currently happening for him. and plus if i'm spectating a friend's game, i feel like i'd be watching the game because of my friend rather than what's actually happening in an overall game perspective. it would also prevent cheating because you only know what your friend knows, and so it'd be no different than having your friend look at your game over your shoulder.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
May 01 2012 21:31 GMT
#269
On May 02 2012 06:12 goldenkrnboi wrote:
i don't know how practical it would be, but ideally, wouldn't an adequate solution for spectating a friend's game would be to spectate it real time, but only from the friend's team's perspective? i feel like it's not that much fun to watch a friend's game and be like oh shoot. this and that happened. when the friend who's playing it is 3 minutes ahead of the action and subsequently is trying to focus on what's currently happening for him. and plus if i'm spectating a friend's game, i feel like i'd be watching the game because of my friend rather than what's actually happening in an overall game perspective. it would also prevent cheating because you only know what your friend knows, and so it'd be no different than having your friend look at your game over your shoulder.


Ya but the extra set of eyes would still be a huge advantage. Delay is absolutely necessary
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 01 2012 21:36 GMT
#270
3minute seems freaking excessive. Maybe 30sec-1min seems more reasonable.
liftlift > tsm
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
May 01 2012 21:40 GMT
#271
Interview links with Dustin Beck (VP of eSports)

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/05/01/league-of-legends-world-championships-will-be-worth-record-breaking-3-million/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/05/01/talking-league-of-legends-and-esports-ahead-of-3m-championship/

My Favorite Questions

Do you see competition as a positive or negative in the eSports scene? Does say, the popularity of professional Starcraft help you by increasing interest in eSports as a whole, or do you hurt each other by competing for the same sponsors?

I don’t think eSports, as a cultural phenomenon, has come anywhere near its potential. In that sense, a rising tide lifts all boats. I think that’s why so many people at Riot are so excited about doing everything we can to foster and support the League of Legends eSports scene – it’s because we know how much of an impact we can have on elevating eSports as a movement.

Leagues which don’t have their own games are highly dependent upon sponsors, but we don’t need to rely upon sponsors to make a commitment to eSports – we’re supporting eSports because our players love it and we’re all about giving the players what they want and recognizing and rewarding their amazing skill.


Where does a $3M prize pool come from? Is it all sponsor-based, or does Riot personally contribute?

The entire prize pool for Season Two is $5 million in total, with $3 million spread across the Regional Finals and World Championship. Because we are deeply committed to eSports, Riot Games is guaranteeing the prize pool for Season Two. However, we’ve had a ton of interest from sponsors who want provide support and get involved with the massive viewership for League of Legends as we move forward. We are looking at integrating sponsors into future events, but we’re in a position to ensure that League of Legends eSports remains well funded.


PCG: 3 million dollars is a lot of money. What makes it possible to keep raising the ante each year with LoL’s world championships? More players, more sponsors, or something else entirely?

Dustin Beck: As a game that was designed with eSports in mind from day one, the League of Legends competitive scene’s been growing alongside the game itself. Players have been sharpening their skills and making it clear that they’re interested in competing, and the community at large has voted with their eyeballs—over two million viewers tuned into each of the last three Challenger circuit events.

That’s the motivation behind our commitment to eSports. The size of the prize pool, features like our enhanced spectator mode, and everything we do for competitive play—it’s all to give the LoL eSports scene the support it deserves. We want it to be entertaining for fans, engaging for players at all levels of competitive play and a lucrative career choice for the best teams around the world.


Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 21:41:12
May 01 2012 21:40 GMT
#272
On May 02 2012 06:36 wei2coolman wrote:
3minute seems freaking excessive. Maybe 30sec-1min seems more reasonable.


30-60 seconds is utterly insane. As a jungler I could use that information to counter-jungle, predict ganks, avoid wards etc. It's not a coincidence that 3 minutes is the duration of a ward.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 21:41:54
May 01 2012 21:41 GMT
#273
On May 02 2012 06:36 wei2coolman wrote:
3minute seems freaking excessive. Maybe 30sec-1min seems more reasonable.



with a less than 1:30 delay you could know they planned to invade before they invaded.

with a less than 4 min delay you can already get an exact timer on baron/dragon if you dont see it die and still have time to position yourself to get it. 3 mins is already striking a balance between 'live' and 0 information being given away. any less would be too risky. it would only take 1 instance of "well we lost because they got free information" and there would be pitchforks about it being too short. theres nothing to gain and everything to lose by making it shorter.

On May 02 2012 06:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
why cant other people invite now?


bug
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 21:44:06
May 01 2012 21:42 GMT
#274
Do we have a like a looking for 5v5 team or something?

I'm getting tired of Solo Que would love to play with 4 other people

If we do I can't find it or its buried.

Someone hit me up!

Name in game same as here and I sit in liquidparty on US
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 22:02:53
May 01 2012 21:43 GMT
#275
Anyone else having trouble connecting?

**Fixed problem had peerblocker on...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 01 2012 21:46 GMT
#276
30sec-1min delay is what streamers have set right? if they don't have a huge problem w/ it, I don't see why spec mode should be 3minute delay.
liftlift > tsm
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22132 Posts
May 01 2012 21:48 GMT
#277
Setting your stream to 1min is a choise. You accept that you run the risk of being ghosted. Spec mode doesnt give that choise since anyone can spectate (if there on your friendlist/featured obv).

3min delay is the only way to be sure.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 01 2012 21:52 GMT
#278
On May 02 2012 06:48 Gorsameth wrote:
Setting your stream to 1min is a choise. You accept that you run the risk of being ghosted. Spec mode doesnt give that choise since anyone can spectate (if there on your friendlist/featured obv).

3min delay is the only way to be sure.

I dunno, it really removes the fun of messaging to my friend "LOL DAT PLAY"
liftlift > tsm
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 21:57:23
May 01 2012 21:54 GMT
#279
3 minute delay is definitely the way to go, don't see how anyone could say differently. Especially so since the games are accessible to everyone due to them being integrated into the client, information about ward locations and shit would be a bigger problem than they are with streams. That and it's already pretty rude to the other people on your team to not have a least like a 1 min delay on stream imo, 3 mins is much better since you aren't choosing to be watched and it keeps the playing field level.

On May 02 2012 06:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 06:48 Gorsameth wrote:
Setting your stream to 1min is a choise. You accept that you run the risk of being ghosted. Spec mode doesnt give that choise since anyone can spectate (if there on your friendlist/featured obv).

3min delay is the only way to be sure.

I dunno, it really removes the fun of messaging to my friend "LOL DAT PLAY"


You can still do this. Either way you'd have a delay, but without a big one the system is open to exploitation, which isn't worth the fun of being able to watch games in near realtime. More people than just you and your friends are going to be using the system obviously, it has to be a fair fit for everyone.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
May 01 2012 22:01 GMT
#280
On May 02 2012 06:42 Bladeorade wrote:
Do we have a like a looking for 5v5 team or something?

I'm getting tired of Solo Que would love to play with 4 other people

If we do I can't find it or its buried.

Someone hit me up!

Name in game same as here and I sit in liquidparty on US


I don't think we have a thread. I think it'd be awesome to do arranged 5's but it's much harder to organize than duo queue - which is a shame because it seems like there's plenty of people on TL that have an interest in playing together but just don't. It'd probably be easiest to just say something in liquidparty... except no one ever says anything in liquidparty.

maybe just like pick a time every week for TL arranged 5's and whoever can make it can play a few games?
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