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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 04 2012 18:16 GMT
#1081
lol Tencent is top 10 IT company in the world.

and Chinese gamers are NOT poor actually.

they go to work then play games, game is probably their only way to spend money since ppl in china have 0 activity.

few years ago a friend of mine just spent like 1000$ on a game which is hosted by a Illegal private server , ya private server. what an idiot.
pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
March 04 2012 18:17 GMT
#1082
On March 05 2012 02:50 Alaric wrote:
What do you mean by "Tancent bought Riot"? Didn't they just get a license or something like that to manage LoL in China, rather?

hehe, will leave lurker status just cause i have access to some info from mergermarket (huge m&a database, hope it copy pastes well):


Deal ID288319
Announcement date 04/02/2011
Completion date 08/03/2011


Deal Value EUR 294 m
Deal nature Recommended
Deal types Acquisition, Cross border, Exit, Private

Tencent Holdings Ltd, the listed China based provider of internet, mobile value-added services and online advertising services, has acquired a majority stake in Riot Games Inc., the US based company that develops and publishes online video games, from Benchmark Capital and FirstMark Capital, LLC, the US based private equity and venture capital firms, for a total consideration of USD 400m.

Under the terms of agreement, Riot Games management team will receive some portion of the consideration, but will also retain an equity stake in the company. Post acquisition, Riot Games will operate as an independent company and its existing management team will continue to lead all aspects of the company. This acquisition will provide Riot Games designers, developers and community staff with additional resources to focus on innovating around ‘League of Legends’ and launching new projects that push the boundaries in the gaming space. Prior to this transaction, Tencent Holdings along with Benchmark Capital and Firstmark Capital has invested in Riot Games.

The transaction which is subject to regulatory approval and is expected to complete in 30 days.


Source Link:

Riot Games Inc., Deal Announcement (04-Feb-2011)

they were advised by Qatalyst btw, which is a top-notch (the best tbh) m&a technology boutique run by Frank Quattrone (the internet boom m&a king), so they truly are on the radar of the top investment banks and boutiques, i.e. not only successfull from our gaming point of view but also very promising from a financial pov. Also, Tencent has no incentive at all for "milking" this franchise, they have such a huge and deep capital base that building recurring cashflows is a much safer way to get a good roi instead of "milking", you should realise that gaming has really become a business, and exploiting is simply not a strong strategy in a mature industry
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 18:25:07
March 04 2012 18:23 GMT
#1083
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.

I think the Taiwan server gave away a free rune page as compensation for anyone who was affected by server troubles about a week ago. If you were maxed out you got 6300 IP instead.

Oh right, by the way, is it true there's an individual rating every player gets that quantifies his average playing performance in games? What stats are taken into account other than KDA?
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 18:28:03
March 04 2012 18:25 GMT
#1084
On March 05 2012 03:04 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 02:50 Jaso wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:39 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:05 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.


lol, that's crazy. $20 buys 7 on NA

Tencent's business strategy is to milk as much as possible from a game, not to trying to growing it. I am quite worry about LoL since Tencent bought Riot. Heard some rummors that new champs will be OP and easy to play as hell cos Tencent wanted them so.

Just to let you guys know about the pricing on CN server. $20 for 2 rune pages and no option to buy pages buy IP. A new champ is about $8. They also divide skin into class, legendary class(those like Teemo spacesuit skin or Frost Annie) are $15.
Cheapest skin is about $2~3. There are so much weird shit on CN server I should start a thread about it. LOL

Apart from the runes, that is pretty much par for the course on NA. You need to spend $10 USD to be able to afford a champion or a skin (although you will end up with a bit left over). Skins go from about $15-20 USD to $5.

So ya, the only thing that is REALLY different is the fact they screw you over for rune pages.

Well, if you compare it the income people make in NA and CN. The price on CN is ridiculous. I mean you can get a meal here for one person for like $3(in big city like Shanghai or Beijing, will be much less elsewhere in China). Students that just graduated college make like $400~$500(again in big city).


Definitely not $500 a year... and are we talking about CNY or USD?

@above Tencent actually made an acquisition of Riot... iirc they paid $400 million USD.

"Riot Games was founded five years ago by Beck and Marc Merrill, who saw potential in an idea dubbed “session-based” gaming, or short games you could play during a lunch break. "
source
interesting.. I wouldn't exactly call LoL a game you can play in your lunch break.

That $500 is ofc a month.
Also, SC2 is now selling for $15 in CN as well.


So it's not very expensive at all, then.

I find it hard to believe that college graduates only make $500 CNY =~= $80 USD a month.. I haven't been to China in a couple years nor do I have any clue what the economy is like there but from what my parents tell me (who are Chinese) it's getting a lot better over there... lot of jobs for younger people. Maybe manual labor like Foxconn workers will only make that much, but I doubt college grads.

@above your rating (ELO) is solely dependent on the amount of games you win/lose; it is slightly affected by your opponents' ratings, but does not factor in KDA or any in-game stats whatsoever.

edit: regarding the info pfff posted, I'm assuming this means Tencent has no bearing on the decisions Riot makes (for the mosat part). I remember reading it somewhere; basically Riot has full control still over how the game grows. Tencent is just providing resources for international expansion.
derp
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 18:36:43
March 04 2012 18:35 GMT
#1085
On March 05 2012 03:25 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 03:04 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:50 Jaso wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:39 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:05 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.


lol, that's crazy. $20 buys 7 on NA

Tencent's business strategy is to milk as much as possible from a game, not to trying to growing it. I am quite worry about LoL since Tencent bought Riot. Heard some rummors that new champs will be OP and easy to play as hell cos Tencent wanted them so.

Just to let you guys know about the pricing on CN server. $20 for 2 rune pages and no option to buy pages buy IP. A new champ is about $8. They also divide skin into class, legendary class(those like Teemo spacesuit skin or Frost Annie) are $15.
Cheapest skin is about $2~3. There are so much weird shit on CN server I should start a thread about it. LOL

Apart from the runes, that is pretty much par for the course on NA. You need to spend $10 USD to be able to afford a champion or a skin (although you will end up with a bit left over). Skins go from about $15-20 USD to $5.

So ya, the only thing that is REALLY different is the fact they screw you over for rune pages.

Well, if you compare it the income people make in NA and CN. The price on CN is ridiculous. I mean you can get a meal here for one person for like $3(in big city like Shanghai or Beijing, will be much less elsewhere in China). Students that just graduated college make like $400~$500(again in big city).


Definitely not $500 a year... and are we talking about CNY or USD?

@above Tencent actually made an acquisition of Riot... iirc they paid $400 million USD.

"Riot Games was founded five years ago by Beck and Marc Merrill, who saw potential in an idea dubbed “session-based” gaming, or short games you could play during a lunch break. "
source
interesting.. I wouldn't exactly call LoL a game you can play in your lunch break.

That $500 is ofc a month.
Also, SC2 is now selling for $15 in CN as well.


So it's not very expensive at all, then.

I find it hard to believe that college graduates only make $500 CNY =~= $80 USD a month.. I haven't been to China in a couple years nor do I have any clue what the economy is like there but from what my parents tell me (who are Chinese) it's getting a lot better over there... lot of jobs for younger people. Maybe manual labor like Foxconn workers will only make that much, but I doubt college grads.

@above your rating (ELO) is solely dependent on the amount of games you win/lose; it is slightly affected by your opponents' ratings, but does not factor in KDA or any in-game stats whatsoever.

edit: regarding the info pfff posted, I'm assuming this means Tencent has no bearing on the decisions Riot makes (for the mosat part). I remember reading it somewhere; basically Riot has full control still over how the game grows. Tencent is just providing resources for international expansion.

what the fuck, i guess thats 500$ dollars, not 500¥ RMB.
college graduates makes at least 500 dollars, u cant even find a house to rent with $80usd a month lol
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 04 2012 18:38 GMT
#1086
On March 04 2012 21:24 Craton wrote:
Only two choices with the morons who demand a certain role: acquiesce or ignore them.

I do a mix of both. If they troll, cue up their ban and move on to the next game. You'll get the Elo back eventually.


Cool, ty and thanks to everyone else who responded. Guess I'll just have to dealwitit.jpg
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 04 2012 19:10 GMT
#1087
On March 05 2012 03:23 tissue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.

I think the Taiwan server gave away a free rune page as compensation for anyone who was affected by server troubles about a week ago. If you were maxed out you got 6300 IP instead.

Oh right, by the way, is it true there's an individual rating every player gets that quantifies his average playing performance in games? What stats are taken into account other than KDA?

When LoL was first release in China, you can buy rune page for 6300IP as well but after a few months they took that out.

And yeah, there is this little "add on" to LoL client that help you evaluate your team in term of "Power score", but its not accurate most of the time.

@Jaso: Its USD500 not CNY.
Terran
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
March 04 2012 20:27 GMT
#1088
guys, who do you think is generally the best top laner @ late game in terms of their usefulness in team fights?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
March 04 2012 20:30 GMT
#1089
wukong probabaly.
Go go Alliance.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 04 2012 20:32 GMT
#1090
On March 05 2012 05:27 billy5000 wrote:
guys, who do you think is generally the best top laner @ late game in terms of their usefulness in team fights?

GP. Has huge aoe slow that's a global cast. A huge aoe steroid. Does tons of damage. Very durable as well.
liftlift > tsm
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 04 2012 20:34 GMT
#1091
What the hell? I was playing a normal and Fiora just parried an ashe ult....chasing ashe and she arrowed and the arrow went directly through her while "parried" appeared....wut? I dont think thats supposed to happen?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 04 2012 20:34 GMT
#1092
On March 05 2012 05:27 billy5000 wrote:
guys, who do you think is generally the best top laner @ late game in terms of their usefulness in team fights?

gangplank or irelia cause they both scale hard
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 04 2012 20:35 GMT
#1093
^Ashe bug. I thought it was fixed. Something about if the target is too close then it misses. I've seen it miss targets that were a bit far though.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
March 04 2012 20:41 GMT
#1094
fiora and riven late game with bt do terrible terrible damage
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 20:51:05
March 04 2012 20:50 GMT
#1095
On March 05 2012 05:34 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 05:27 billy5000 wrote:
guys, who do you think is generally the best top laner @ late game in terms of their usefulness in team fights?

gangplank or irelia cause they both scale hard


GP, Trynd, Nasus, Rumble, Irelia, Wukong, Riven
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 20:55:18
March 04 2012 20:54 GMT
#1096
On March 05 2012 05:34 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 05:27 billy5000 wrote:
guys, who do you think is generally the best top laner @ late game in terms of their usefulness in team fights?

gangplank or irelia cause they both scale hard


Depends on the other team imo. If they have a fed long range ap/ad carry with extreme damage and little defense, a farmed poppy is better than any other top laner since you are basically guaranteed to kill them and turn it into a 5v4.

Against a team with auto attackers dealing most of the damage i like nasus because wither is one of the most OP spells in the game imo.

Trynd, irelia, gp, riven, rumble, shen, and jarvan are all very strong in just about any situation late game imo unless they got denied early.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 04 2012 20:56 GMT
#1097
Rumble 100% is the hardest scaling top laner
Then nasus and trynd, team-comp allowing
Then riven and kennen overall
Then irelia and gp overall
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 20:59:34
March 04 2012 20:59 GMT
#1098
LOL gtrstr real rumble hater I haven't lost a lane to rumble or see rumble do anything useful in forever.
Never seen riven do super well compared to irelia either cause of armour building.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 04 2012 21:12 GMT
#1099
how can you possibly argue that anyone outscales a champ that can get infinity dmg? ;p surely nasus is the hardest scaling top possible? :D his other abilities except his armor reduction also scale off of the other teams stats, making them better and better the longer the game goes on.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 04 2012 21:15 GMT
#1100
Scaling is say, every 10 minuets assuming a game of LoL basically never lasts more than 40-50 minutes.
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