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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 04 2012 16:19 GMT
#1061
On March 05 2012 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 01:13 Craton wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:09 Woony wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote:
From what ive heard on there scrims TSM doesnt really have a comp in mind when they start picks/bans so banning kass to help karthus never accored to them


I think the other team picked Kennen early, so TSM thought that they'd send Kennen mid but then the other team picked Kass after TSM had picked Karth and send Kennen bot

Why would you think Kennen would go mid? That's literally the least likely lane he'd be sent to. If anything you'd expect Kennen to be sent top and their team to still be waiting to pick their mid laner.


That's NA though. On EU, you can literally find Kennen in any of the three lanes.


Inb4 jungle Kennen for champ select mindfucks.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 04 2012 16:22 GMT
#1062
On March 05 2012 01:19 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:13 Craton wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:09 Woony wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote:
From what ive heard on there scrims TSM doesnt really have a comp in mind when they start picks/bans so banning kass to help karthus never accored to them


I think the other team picked Kennen early, so TSM thought that they'd send Kennen mid but then the other team picked Kass after TSM had picked Karth and send Kennen bot

Why would you think Kennen would go mid? That's literally the least likely lane he'd be sent to. If anything you'd expect Kennen to be sent top and their team to still be waiting to pick their mid laner.


That's NA though. On EU, you can literally find Kennen in any of the three lanes.


Inb4 jungle Kennen for champ select mindfucks.

As crazy as it sounds, it works quite well. Too bad shurikens don't apply red anymore though.
The legend of Darien lives on
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 16:47:53
March 04 2012 16:46 GMT
#1063
On March 05 2012 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 01:13 Craton wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:09 Woony wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote:
From what ive heard on there scrims TSM doesnt really have a comp in mind when they start picks/bans so banning kass to help karthus never accored to them


I think the other team picked Kennen early, so TSM thought that they'd send Kennen mid but then the other team picked Kass after TSM had picked Karth and send Kennen bot

Why would you think Kennen would go mid? That's literally the least likely lane he'd be sent to. If anything you'd expect Kennen to be sent top and their team to still be waiting to pick their mid laner.


That's NA though. On EU, you can literally find Kennen in any of the three lanes.


Kennen seems to be a bit of a ultimate first pick. Viable (strong even) in all 3 lanes; able to decourage quite a few picks for top/mid; able to bait counterable heroes that are intended to 1v1 vs kennen (like karthus ^^)

So stronk

On March 05 2012 01:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 01:19 Alaric wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:13 Craton wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:09 Woony wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote:
From what ive heard on there scrims TSM doesnt really have a comp in mind when they start picks/bans so banning kass to help karthus never accored to them


I think the other team picked Kennen early, so TSM thought that they'd send Kennen mid but then the other team picked Kass after TSM had picked Karth and send Kennen bot

Why would you think Kennen would go mid? That's literally the least likely lane he'd be sent to. If anything you'd expect Kennen to be sent top and their team to still be waiting to pick their mid laner.


That's NA though. On EU, you can literally find Kennen in any of the three lanes.


Inb4 jungle Kennen for champ select mindfucks.

As crazy as it sounds, it works quite well. Too bad shurikens don't apply red anymore though.


Isn't his shuriken cd early levels way too high to jungle?
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 17:07:18
March 04 2012 17:05 GMT
#1064
On March 05 2012 00:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.


lol, that's crazy. $20 buys 7 on NA

Tencent's business strategy is to milk as much as possible from a game, not to trying to growing it. I am quite worry about LoL since Tencent bought Riot. Heard some rummors that new champs will be OP and easy to play as hell cos Tencent wanted them so.

Just to let you guys know about the pricing on CN server. $20 for 2 rune pages and no option to buy pages buy IP. A new champ is about $8. They also divide skin into class, legendary class(those like Teemo spacesuit skin or Frost Annie) are $15.
Cheapest skin is about $2~3. There are so much weird shit on CN server I should start a thread about it. LOL
Terran
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 04 2012 17:13 GMT
#1065
On March 04 2012 16:19 Mondeezy wrote:
How do you guys deal with people who spam call their lane before the game starts? I keep getting these shitters who call solo top or mid then get raped and lose us the game. I feel pretty confident in my top and would like to play it, but seems everyone wants that role and loses when they get it(so I get stuck playing jungle which I'm meh at, because nobody wants to play that).


Yeah it's generally unavoidable, my only words to them are to steer them away from like, say, Nunu top, or something that I KNOW will lose to their Riven/GP/Wukong top. Besides that if you keep jungling, seriously just work on your jungling skills because that's how you're gonna win the lane for that idiot who is absolutely convinced that Veigar top is a hard counter to Pantheon.
Hey! How you doin'?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 04 2012 17:29 GMT
#1066
On March 05 2012 02:05 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 00:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.


lol, that's crazy. $20 buys 7 on NA

Tencent's business strategy is to milk as much as possible from a game, not to trying to growing it. I am quite worry about LoL since Tencent bought Riot. Heard some rummors that new champs will be OP and easy to play as hell cos Tencent wanted them so.

Just to let you guys know about the pricing on CN server. $20 for 2 rune pages and no option to buy pages buy IP. A new champ is about $8. They also divide skin into class, legendary class(those like Teemo spacesuit skin or Frost Annie) are $15.
Cheapest skin is about $2~3. There are so much weird shit on CN server I should start a thread about it. LOL

Apart from the runes, that is pretty much par for the course on NA. You need to spend $10 USD to be able to afford a champion or a skin (although you will end up with a bit left over). Skins go from about $15-20 USD to $5.

So ya, the only thing that is REALLY different is the fact they screw you over for rune pages.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 04 2012 17:29 GMT
#1067
On March 05 2012 01:46 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:13 Craton wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:09 Woony wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote:
From what ive heard on there scrims TSM doesnt really have a comp in mind when they start picks/bans so banning kass to help karthus never accored to them


I think the other team picked Kennen early, so TSM thought that they'd send Kennen mid but then the other team picked Kass after TSM had picked Karth and send Kennen bot

Why would you think Kennen would go mid? That's literally the least likely lane he'd be sent to. If anything you'd expect Kennen to be sent top and their team to still be waiting to pick their mid laner.


That's NA though. On EU, you can literally find Kennen in any of the three lanes.


Kennen seems to be a bit of a ultimate first pick. Viable (strong even) in all 3 lanes; able to decourage quite a few picks for top/mid; able to bait counterable heroes that are intended to 1v1 vs kennen (like karthus ^^)

So stronk

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 01:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:19 Alaric wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:13 Craton wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:09 Woony wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote:
From what ive heard on there scrims TSM doesnt really have a comp in mind when they start picks/bans so banning kass to help karthus never accored to them


I think the other team picked Kennen early, so TSM thought that they'd send Kennen mid but then the other team picked Kass after TSM had picked Karth and send Kennen bot

Why would you think Kennen would go mid? That's literally the least likely lane he'd be sent to. If anything you'd expect Kennen to be sent top and their team to still be waiting to pick their mid laner.


That's NA though. On EU, you can literally find Kennen in any of the three lanes.


Inb4 jungle Kennen for champ select mindfucks.

As crazy as it sounds, it works quite well. Too bad shurikens don't apply red anymore though.


Isn't his shuriken cd early levels way too high to jungle?

SV did jungle kennen on stream once. it seems that you'd want to go AD kennen and max W first.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 04 2012 17:39 GMT
#1068
On March 05 2012 02:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 02:05 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.


lol, that's crazy. $20 buys 7 on NA

Tencent's business strategy is to milk as much as possible from a game, not to trying to growing it. I am quite worry about LoL since Tencent bought Riot. Heard some rummors that new champs will be OP and easy to play as hell cos Tencent wanted them so.

Just to let you guys know about the pricing on CN server. $20 for 2 rune pages and no option to buy pages buy IP. A new champ is about $8. They also divide skin into class, legendary class(those like Teemo spacesuit skin or Frost Annie) are $15.
Cheapest skin is about $2~3. There are so much weird shit on CN server I should start a thread about it. LOL

Apart from the runes, that is pretty much par for the course on NA. You need to spend $10 USD to be able to afford a champion or a skin (although you will end up with a bit left over). Skins go from about $15-20 USD to $5.

So ya, the only thing that is REALLY different is the fact they screw you over for rune pages.

Well, if you compare it the income people make in NA and CN. The price on CN is ridiculous. I mean you can get a meal here for one person for like $3(in big city like Shanghai or Beijing, will be much less elsewhere in China). Students that just graduated college make like $400~$500(again in big city).
Terran
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 04 2012 17:50 GMT
#1069
What do you mean by "Tancent bought Riot"? Didn't they just get a license or something like that to manage LoL in China, rather?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 17:56:54
March 04 2012 17:50 GMT
#1070
On March 05 2012 02:39 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 02:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:05 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.


lol, that's crazy. $20 buys 7 on NA

Tencent's business strategy is to milk as much as possible from a game, not to trying to growing it. I am quite worry about LoL since Tencent bought Riot. Heard some rummors that new champs will be OP and easy to play as hell cos Tencent wanted them so.

Just to let you guys know about the pricing on CN server. $20 for 2 rune pages and no option to buy pages buy IP. A new champ is about $8. They also divide skin into class, legendary class(those like Teemo spacesuit skin or Frost Annie) are $15.
Cheapest skin is about $2~3. There are so much weird shit on CN server I should start a thread about it. LOL

Apart from the runes, that is pretty much par for the course on NA. You need to spend $10 USD to be able to afford a champion or a skin (although you will end up with a bit left over). Skins go from about $15-20 USD to $5.

So ya, the only thing that is REALLY different is the fact they screw you over for rune pages.

Well, if you compare it the income people make in NA and CN. The price on CN is ridiculous. I mean you can get a meal here for one person for like $3(in big city like Shanghai or Beijing, will be much less elsewhere in China). Students that just graduated college make like $400~$500(again in big city).


Definitely not $500 a year... and are we talking about CNY or USD?

@above Tencent actually made an acquisition of Riot... iirc they paid $400 million USD.

"Riot Games was founded five years ago by Beck and Marc Merrill, who saw potential in an idea dubbed “session-based” gaming, or short games you could play during a lunch break. "
source
interesting.. I wouldn't exactly call LoL a game you can play in your lunch break.
derp
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
March 04 2012 17:56 GMT
#1071


@above Tencent actually made an acquisition of Riot... iirc they paid $400 million USD.



Yeaaah, I'm going to need a source on that.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 04 2012 17:56 GMT
#1072
On March 05 2012 02:56 ManyCookies wrote:
Show nested quote +


@above Tencent actually made an acquisition of Riot... iirc they paid $400 million USD.



Yeaaah, I'm going to need a source on that.


See link I posted above.
derp
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 04 2012 17:56 GMT
#1073
Not that any of us actually play just one game then log off but standard lunch breaks in the US is one hour. So technically that is enough time for one game. >_>
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 04 2012 17:57 GMT
#1074
On March 05 2012 02:56 ManyCookies wrote:
Show nested quote +


@above Tencent actually made an acquisition of Riot... iirc they paid $400 million USD.



Yeaaah, I'm going to need a source on that.

it was big news a while ago
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tencent buys riot
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 04 2012 17:57 GMT
#1075
On March 05 2012 02:56 ManyCookies wrote:
Show nested quote +


@above Tencent actually made an acquisition of Riot... iirc they paid $400 million USD.



Yeaaah, I'm going to need a source on that.


lol, it's legit. ~.~
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 04 2012 17:58 GMT
#1076
I really didn't expect Riot to be worth that much.. in fact worth more than $400 million, because Tencent only acquired a majority stake.
derp
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 04 2012 18:00 GMT
#1077
DotA2 The Defense Finals: 29874
LoL TheOddOne Solo Q: 23008

/amused

Go ESPORTS~
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 18:10:20
March 04 2012 18:04 GMT
#1078
On March 05 2012 02:50 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 02:39 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 05 2012 02:05 Caphe wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:54 Caphe wrote:
Not entirely related to this patch but now I can buy rune pages on CN server. Fuck yeah, but at a hefty price. 20$ for two, yeah two rune pages.


lol, that's crazy. $20 buys 7 on NA

Tencent's business strategy is to milk as much as possible from a game, not to trying to growing it. I am quite worry about LoL since Tencent bought Riot. Heard some rummors that new champs will be OP and easy to play as hell cos Tencent wanted them so.

Just to let you guys know about the pricing on CN server. $20 for 2 rune pages and no option to buy pages buy IP. A new champ is about $8. They also divide skin into class, legendary class(those like Teemo spacesuit skin or Frost Annie) are $15.
Cheapest skin is about $2~3. There are so much weird shit on CN server I should start a thread about it. LOL

Apart from the runes, that is pretty much par for the course on NA. You need to spend $10 USD to be able to afford a champion or a skin (although you will end up with a bit left over). Skins go from about $15-20 USD to $5.

So ya, the only thing that is REALLY different is the fact they screw you over for rune pages.

Well, if you compare it the income people make in NA and CN. The price on CN is ridiculous. I mean you can get a meal here for one person for like $3(in big city like Shanghai or Beijing, will be much less elsewhere in China). Students that just graduated college make like $400~$500(again in big city).


Definitely not $500 a year... and are we talking about CNY or USD?

@above Tencent actually made an acquisition of Riot... iirc they paid $400 million USD.

"Riot Games was founded five years ago by Beck and Marc Merrill, who saw potential in an idea dubbed “session-based” gaming, or short games you could play during a lunch break. "
source
interesting.. I wouldn't exactly call LoL a game you can play in your lunch break.

That $500 is ofc a month.
Also, SC2 is now selling for $15 in CN as well.
Terran
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 04 2012 18:14 GMT
#1079
On March 05 2012 03:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
DotA2 The Defense Finals: 29874
LoL TheOddOne Solo Q: 23008

/amused

Go ESPORTS~

You better edit that before our resident banling comes in and warns you for flamebaiting.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 04 2012 18:15 GMT
#1080
On March 05 2012 02:29 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 01:46 Schwopzi wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:13 Craton wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:09 Woony wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote:
From what ive heard on there scrims TSM doesnt really have a comp in mind when they start picks/bans so banning kass to help karthus never accored to them


I think the other team picked Kennen early, so TSM thought that they'd send Kennen mid but then the other team picked Kass after TSM had picked Karth and send Kennen bot

Why would you think Kennen would go mid? That's literally the least likely lane he'd be sent to. If anything you'd expect Kennen to be sent top and their team to still be waiting to pick their mid laner.


That's NA though. On EU, you can literally find Kennen in any of the three lanes.


Kennen seems to be a bit of a ultimate first pick. Viable (strong even) in all 3 lanes; able to decourage quite a few picks for top/mid; able to bait counterable heroes that are intended to 1v1 vs kennen (like karthus ^^)

So stronk

On March 05 2012 01:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:19 Alaric wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:13 Craton wrote:
On March 05 2012 01:09 Woony wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote:
From what ive heard on there scrims TSM doesnt really have a comp in mind when they start picks/bans so banning kass to help karthus never accored to them


I think the other team picked Kennen early, so TSM thought that they'd send Kennen mid but then the other team picked Kass after TSM had picked Karth and send Kennen bot

Why would you think Kennen would go mid? That's literally the least likely lane he'd be sent to. If anything you'd expect Kennen to be sent top and their team to still be waiting to pick their mid laner.


That's NA though. On EU, you can literally find Kennen in any of the three lanes.


Inb4 jungle Kennen for champ select mindfucks.

As crazy as it sounds, it works quite well. Too bad shurikens don't apply red anymore though.


Isn't his shuriken cd early levels way too high to jungle?

SV did jungle kennen on stream once. it seems that you'd want to go AD kennen and max W first.

Well if we were to name all the champions that SV did jungle with on stream at least once... We'd name all the champs in the game;)
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