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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 03 2012 01:59 GMT
#821
On March 03 2012 10:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
fixed that post for ya


Er.... compensating for something? :D
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 02:00:54
March 03 2012 02:00 GMT
#822
Shikyo's in so much bigger font than Mogwai. We all know who the most important person of this thread is.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 03 2012 02:02 GMT
#823
Neo?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gondlem
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia642 Posts
March 03 2012 02:05 GMT
#824
I'm surprised people are so hostile to cv in solo queue. Personally I feel really uncomfortable not having cv on my team for things like potential level 1 fights, baron/dragon baits when wards are being cleared etc. Heal is obviously nice in lane but the AD carry can easily take it, while cv is useful the whole game for certain situations that go beyond just "find the jungler".
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 03 2012 02:11 GMT
#825
IMO the problem with CV is that it's only useful in a couple situations throughout the game(There's only a few times where you need the vision of the brushes and can't use a ward instead, and for baron or dragon), whereas for instance an Exhaust is ALWAYS useful and actually helps you win fights. IMO CV kind of tries to make up for poor ward coverage.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 03 2012 02:29 GMT
#826
everytime i play shyvana i wish i had someone cv'ing their jungle for me
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 03 2012 02:31 GMT
#827
On March 03 2012 11:11 Shikyo wrote:
IMO the problem with CV is that it's only useful in a couple situations throughout the game(There's only a few times where you need the vision of the brushes and can't use a ward instead, and for baron or dragon), whereas for instance an Exhaust is ALWAYS useful and actually helps you win fights. IMO CV kind of tries to make up for poor ward coverage.

There are a lot of situations where you can't have good ward coverage when the opponent is counterwarding meticulously.

If you're going to assume that you're always going to have adequate ward coverage, then you're basically assuming that you always have a map control advantage, which simply isn't going to happen practically.
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Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
March 03 2012 02:40 GMT
#828
On March 03 2012 09:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 08:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
The big thing with CV is that now its basically just an expensive facecheck tool or a "shit we dont have baron/dragon warded someone cv" thing.

I would consider that as people misusing it.

Consider a lategame scenario where two teams are posturing around an objective. Both teams have cleared the majority of wards with oracles/pink wards, so while you know the general location of your opponent, you don't know their exact positioning. CV allows you to determine the enemy team's exact positioning just prior to engaging the fight. That immediate positioning knowledge is huge if your team can act on it in the span of the few seconds as the fight gets initiated.

People are just used to abusing it on CD because it used to be OP as fuck. The thing is, doing that with CV now is basically equivalent to just igniting your lane opponent every time its off CD just for the fuck of it.


Great for fights around bushes.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 03 2012 02:41 GMT
#829
On March 03 2012 11:00 Shikyo wrote:
Shikyo's in so much bigger font than Mogwai. We all know who the most important person of this thread is.

Meh. Two is bigger than anyone else. I just dont brag about it. The fact my signature made it does that itself.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 03 2012 02:50 GMT
#830
On March 03 2012 11:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 11:00 Shikyo wrote:
Shikyo's in so much bigger font than Mogwai. We all know who the most important person of this thread is.

Meh. Two is bigger than anyone else. I just dont brag about it. The fact my signature made it does that itself.

Not something to brag about imo
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 03 2012 02:50 GMT
#831
Playing with 2k Elos made me realize my 1400 ass doesnt belong there (WTF LOSE TO AP NAUT T_T)
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 03 2012 02:52 GMT
#832
On March 03 2012 11:50 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 11:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 03 2012 11:00 Shikyo wrote:
Shikyo's in so much bigger font than Mogwai. We all know who the most important person of this thread is.

Meh. Two is bigger than anyone else. I just dont brag about it. The fact my signature made it does that itself.

Not something to brag about imo

? Im active and generally trying to be helpful. Why is that a bad thing? Smash is on there too.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 03 2012 02:55 GMT
#833
It says whore. Bad word. Children on here.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 03 2012 02:58 GMT
#834
Anyone watching doublelifts stream with naht nugyen? fucking hilarious.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 03 2012 03:00 GMT
#835
On March 03 2012 11:31 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 11:11 Shikyo wrote:
IMO the problem with CV is that it's only useful in a couple situations throughout the game(There's only a few times where you need the vision of the brushes and can't use a ward instead, and for baron or dragon), whereas for instance an Exhaust is ALWAYS useful and actually helps you win fights. IMO CV kind of tries to make up for poor ward coverage.

There are a lot of situations where you can't have good ward coverage when the opponent is counterwarding meticulously.

If you're going to assume that you're always going to have adequate ward coverage, then you're basically assuming that you always have a map control advantage, which simply isn't going to happen practically.

Not always, but enough that it's so situational that exhaust is more consistently effective
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 03 2012 03:08 GMT
#836
I love cv.

I think it's stronger when you tell your team when it's up and ask them for suggestions on where to cast it.
It's useful during invades, checking if there's a baron bait, helping ganks, helping make sure ganks are really over, spotting objectives... so many things. I wasn't aware pros stopped using it. It may be situational, and may only help win some games... but it's not like heal isn't.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 03:17:29
March 03 2012 03:09 GMT
#837
On March 03 2012 08:50 UniversalSnip wrote:
i made a word cloud for this thread

[image loading]


from a few pages back, but def worth it:
repost this shit in random pics and vids thread, or I will!

needs to be saved and commemorated, brilliant idea

RE cv: IMO, there are 2 big reasons to get cv. One is to stop junglers from camping top lane, the other is for brush fights. Otherwise, its a serviceable summoner but not a requirement. It also means you have 1 less offensive/defensive summoner in bot lane.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 03 2012 03:29 GMT
#838
Really liking the new champ. Random stuff: she does really well vs nidalee and gp and with red + phage there is no way to escape from her.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 03 2012 03:48 GMT
#839
On March 03 2012 12:29 Cloud wrote:
Really liking the new champ. Random stuff: she does really well vs nidalee and gp and with red + phage there is no way to escape from her.

Yeah, but she has no escape at all. her lane is insanely gankable.
liftlift > tsm
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
March 03 2012 03:49 GMT
#840
On March 03 2012 05:33 arnath wrote:
You can't really practice jungle in empty custom games because jungling without a pull is unrealistic at best and flat out impossible at worst.

This is like a really late reply but:
If you just want to practice your jungle clears in a bot game and want to be as realistic as possible, just take smite-heal as summoners. Heal after taking blue - you roughly have the same health you would with a leash.

Also fakesteve using his evil powers to manipulate this thread :O
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