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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 03 2012 05:48 GMT
#861
even amongst mids the only ones that could really forfeit it without giving up a large part of their kill / dueling potential are super insta-clearers who don't have an extremely large kill threat (galio is noteworthy for having large 2nd summoner flexibility)

depends on what you're aiming for, often if you're extremely far ahead in an exchange bottom lane a heal does not achieve a large amount, especially when the person on whom the heal is needed worse is ignited etc
Hey! Listen!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
March 03 2012 06:06 GMT
#862
This clgaming overhaul taking forever.
twitch.tv/cratonz
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
March 03 2012 06:42 GMT
#863
On March 03 2012 14:09 TheYango wrote:
Honestly, I'd say that if you were going to swap someone's non-escape summoner for CV, mid's Ignite would probably be most likely, because mid often stalemates after both sides get blue anyway, and Ignite has lower lategame value compared to Exhaust, Heal, or TP in most cases.


I've actually done this a few times and I really like the way it plays. Often times if you're going to roam from mid to try and gank a lane, knowing your own cv is up to check a brush to make sure you don't facecheck into a jungler is really nice. It's also helpful when jacking your opponents wraiths. On top of that, mid is often times as you stated, a farmfest after a handful of levels and you're arguably less focused on lane than anybody else because neither wants to lose their blue and refresh their opponents.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Akinokaze
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia326 Posts
March 03 2012 06:46 GMT
#864
CV on Lux pretty cool =D
In the Emperor we trust
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 03 2012 06:47 GMT
#865
i come back for one game to play the new bitch

get tiamats and faceroll jesus christ

k back to tf2
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
March 03 2012 06:54 GMT
#866
CLG remake done. New site definitely more classy
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 03 2012 08:52 GMT
#867
On March 03 2012 15:54 Ziken wrote:
CLG remake done. New site definitely more classy

Bleh, while it's really nice it still doesn't have the little useful toolbar with a list of all the streams and amount of viewers which you can view while watching the stream like TSM's site does
Which is a shame since TSM site doesn't show non-own3d streams
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 03 2012 08:53 GMT
#868
On March 03 2012 15:47 Caller wrote:
i come back for one game to play the new bitch

get tiamats and faceroll jesus christ

k back to tf2

Tell me when you'll stop falling fall for my spy disguises and I'll play with you.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 03 2012 09:06 GMT
#869
On March 03 2012 17:52 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 15:54 Ziken wrote:
CLG remake done. New site definitely more classy

Bleh, while it's really nice it still doesn't have the little useful toolbar with a list of all the streams and amount of viewers which you can view while watching the stream like TSM's site does
Which is a shame since TSM site doesn't show non-own3d streams

and TSM website let's you watch TWO FUCKING STREAMS at the same time. One person sucks, watching someone else on the same page! Fuck yes! Why am I so excited over something as simple as this!
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
March 03 2012 09:17 GMT
#870
I've been playing Fiona everytime I get the chance. I really like her but something has always seemed kind of off about her... Couldn't put my finger on it until just now.

Her W kind of sucks. The reflect damage doesn't scale right and the dodge is waayyy too short to be useful. It's just a dumb skill.

Also, WTF is with the passive. I smack the shit out of everything I can and have never noticed myself regaining life from it if I don't have lifeleach. Also dumb.

Ult does the killings though and E with on-hits is stupid strong.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
March 03 2012 09:30 GMT
#871
On March 03 2012 18:06 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 17:52 Kaniol wrote:
On March 03 2012 15:54 Ziken wrote:
CLG remake done. New site definitely more classy

Bleh, while it's really nice it still doesn't have the little useful toolbar with a list of all the streams and amount of viewers which you can view while watching the stream like TSM's site does
Which is a shame since TSM site doesn't show non-own3d streams

and TSM website let's you watch TWO FUCKING STREAMS at the same time. One person sucks, watching someone else on the same page! Fuck yes! Why am I so excited over something as simple as this!

God only knows. Pop-outs are so much more useful than a duo stream.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 03 2012 09:57 GMT
#872
On March 03 2012 11:50 Kenpachi wrote:
Playing with 2k Elos made me realize my 1400 ass doesnt belong there (WTF LOSE TO AP NAUT T_T)


Any pointer on his build/playstyle? I'm willing to try AP Naut to make an opinion for myself but other that "he must play like AP Malph, doran doran abyssal", I don't have much idea how to do it properly.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 03 2012 11:29 GMT
#873
On March 03 2012 13:21 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 13:01 Cloud wrote:
On March 03 2012 12:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 03 2012 12:29 Cloud wrote:
Really liking the new champ. Random stuff: she does really well vs nidalee and gp and with red + phage there is no way to escape from her.

Yeah, but she has no escape at all. her lane is insanely gankable.

That would make her too easy wouldn't it?

She also seems to do fine vs garen.

Well garen just sucks >.>

Laning vs a riven or lee sin is the most frustrating thing as fiora. Actually, what beats riven in lane except for panth? I don't think I've ever lost a lane as riven


You've obviously never laned as Riven against Warwick.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
March 03 2012 11:37 GMT
#874
Quick question who actually beats (not does well against/can hold own can actually KILL) WW in lane? It just seems that he just sits there trades decently then heals it all up with his autos. I have played as lanewick (I main support but singed WW top every now and again) and this still seems to hold true the only times I die are a ''wow I fucked up'' moment or gank with ignite.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:41:56
March 03 2012 11:40 GMT
#875
On March 03 2012 20:37 valheru wrote:
Quick question who actually beats (not does well against/can hold own can actually KILL) WW in lane? It just seems that he just sits there trades decently then heals it all up with his autos. I have played as lanewick (I main support but singed WW top every now and again) and this still seems to hold true the only times I die are a ''wow I fucked up'' moment or gank with ignite.

Yorick!

(Renekton according to some on Dyrus stream)


Also btw winning the lane by killing is going to be very tough vs nearly anything unless it's Udyr vs Irelia, you should just be fine with having double the minion kills.


Cassiopeia decimates Warwick.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 03 2012 11:48 GMT
#876
Man recently everytime i see an ahri on stream she decimates games, i wonder why she isn't banned more often. Maybe it's just a coincidence tho
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 03 2012 12:38 GMT
#877
On March 03 2012 20:48 Kaniol wrote:
Man recently everytime i see an ahri on stream she decimates games, i wonder why she isn't banned more often. Maybe it's just a coincidence tho

Really? Permaban in my games, but yeah she stops super hard always. Impossible to gank, impossible to run from, scales because of AoE true dmg and so on. Hard CC. Very solid.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 03 2012 12:43 GMT
#878
On March 03 2012 13:21 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 13:01 Cloud wrote:
On March 03 2012 12:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 03 2012 12:29 Cloud wrote:
Really liking the new champ. Random stuff: she does really well vs nidalee and gp and with red + phage there is no way to escape from her.

Yeah, but she has no escape at all. her lane is insanely gankable.

That would make her too easy wouldn't it?

She also seems to do fine vs garen.

Well garen just sucks >.>

Laning vs a riven or lee sin is the most frustrating thing as fiora. Actually, what beats riven in lane except for panth? I don't think I've ever lost a lane as riven

Irelia wins against Riven. Farm at tower, get Wriggle's, zone her. Pretty sure Kennen can do well, too, but... that's Kennen.
currently rooting for myself.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 03 2012 13:31 GMT
#879
Pro Scene news for Feb 2012 is up.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
March 03 2012 13:39 GMT
#880
On March 03 2012 20:48 Kaniol wrote:
Man recently everytime i see an ahri on stream she decimates games, i wonder why she isn't banned more often. Maybe it's just a coincidence tho

She is banned pretty often, there's just a lot of champs needing bans right now.
twitch.tv/cratonz
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