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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 21:42:29
March 18 2012 21:42 GMT
#4281
Well, even Scarra would think twice for going against any Cassio as Ryze and he is twelve times better Ryze than Regi is. He explained quite in detail why Ryze is very bad pick vs Cassio in one of his VoDs (can't remember which one, sry).
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 18 2012 21:54 GMT
#4282
On March 19 2012 06:42 daemir wrote:
Well, even Scarra would think twice for going against any Cassio as Ryze and he is twelve times better Ryze than Regi is. He explained quite in detail why Ryze is very bad pick vs Cassio in one of his VoDs (can't remember which one, sry).


shouldn't it be logical that ryze has to stand still for him to burst you which makes him completely vulnerable to all of cass's spells?
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 18 2012 22:01 GMT
#4283
Ryze just simply gets dumped on lvl 2 onwards once Cass has Q and E. Not that that's unique to Ryze only, but he hasn't got really anything to retaliate and Ryze is not tanky untill much later in the game, he is rather squishy early on.

And Cass can just push the wave and force Ryze to last hit under turret. He will lose CS to tower. You'll have to use spells to get some of it and then you run oom, while cass is free to roam or keep taking wraiths.

Cass also good at turning ganks into 2v1 kills with ult.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 18 2012 22:03 GMT
#4284
if Ryze wants to do anything to cassio he basically gets ulted and then he has no cc at all to do anything about Cass. Ryze's basically an over-time fighter and cass beats him in that easily. Not to mention complete lane domination even from lvl 1 on
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
March 18 2012 22:12 GMT
#4285
Anyone know if Matador Alistar is better than Golden Alistar? I personally think the original one looks better than all of them, but I thought I should buy a skin since I have had RP sitting there for a while.
LOUD NOISES!!!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 18 2012 22:15 GMT
#4286
On March 19 2012 07:12 Lorken wrote:
Anyone know if Matador Alistar is better than Golden Alistar? I personally think the original one looks better than all of them, but I thought I should buy a skin since I have had RP sitting there for a while.

Matador alistar best skin.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sickworld
Profile Joined March 2011
437 Posts
March 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#4287
unchained alistar all the way in my opinion
Leave it to me
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 18 2012 22:20 GMT
#4288
On March 19 2012 07:12 Lorken wrote:
Anyone know if Matador Alistar is better than Golden Alistar? I personally think the original one looks better than all of them, but I thought I should buy a skin since I have had RP sitting there for a while.

Matador es #1.
The legend of Darien lives on
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
March 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#4289
Hey Moonbear, is Riot aware that the Karthus double death bug still exists? Just got a double kill on a Karthus by killing him once.
HolyToss1911
Profile Joined May 2007
354 Posts
March 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#4290
So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)?
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 22:26:11
March 18 2012 22:25 GMT
#4291
On March 19 2012 07:22 arnath wrote:
Hey Moonbear, is Riot aware that the Karthus double death bug still exists? Just got a double kill on a Karthus by killing him once.

Do you have steps to repduce it? I haven't seen it myself.

On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote:
So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)?

Galio mebbe? Your shield will tick every time Cass poison ticks making trades inefficient for Cass if you level Shield first iirc.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 22:27:05
March 18 2012 22:26 GMT
#4292
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote:
So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)?

Banning her.

EDIT :
On March 19 2012 07:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote:
So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)?

Galio mebbe? Your shield will tick every time Cass poison ticks making trades inefficient for Cass if you level Shield first iirc.

Well Galio transforms any lane into a farming lane. Not sur it's what you want against Cassio :/
The legend of Darien lives on
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 18 2012 22:40 GMT
#4293
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote:
So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)?


Ahri and LB both do well.
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Nehsb
Profile Joined May 2009
United States380 Posts
March 18 2012 22:47 GMT
#4294
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote:
So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)?


I haven't played any good casses, but in my experience xerath is a good counter. (And I believe Chauster said something like that as well?)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 18 2012 22:48 GMT
#4295
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote:
So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)?


I feel like I'm going to get Blown up for saying this, but I'll admit I think Fizz is a decent matchup vs.Cass however it can snowball against you very quickly if you make mistakes or the Cass is a superior player.

1. obviously you must be deceptive about going for last hits, but above all you MUST approach from inside the creep wave, forcing harass to push the lane. If you are sucsessful at this she will either have to let you farm or be suseptable to ganks.

2. Because you level E first, I prefer to use E to engage after an errant q by cass, E actually does more damage then people give it credit for, but to really make the harass worth it make sure to land 1-2 AA before using your own Q on a minion to put yourself back in the middle of the creep wave. Because of how the dash works you can use Q from behind her, but it is risky in my opinion, if she moves on you or just aim it poorly you stand to lose all you just gained.

3. Finally, even if you are outfarmed, a Sheen+ Fizz can combo Cass for almost her entire lifebar, do not be dicouraged, you can kill Cass even after losing lane by more than you would think, as long as you get Sheen before she gets giants belt for Rylai's you are a threat to her.

There are likely easier options, but this does work, personally I like Ziggs, not as much kill potential but less dangerous, vs. Cass, but I've been put in situations where I've already picked and it's worked out to be what I think is a good matchup, but you will be sweating balls until the first time you kill her.
Carrilord has arrived.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
March 18 2012 22:49 GMT
#4296
I have tried Talon, and it worked so far^^
It's a very dynamic match up, you have to go in and try to kill her, basically the one who's forced to run back first will die (or at least lose the trade)
I haven't seen many cassiopeas at my ELO (1900 euw) lately, though, so I can't really offer a thorough explanation, but if anyone wants to test then I'd be up to it.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 18 2012 22:57 GMT
#4297
Leblanc is good vs Cassiopeia. Really shuts her down hard early. After 6 you can't really avoid getting 70% your HP bursted and she's going to force you off the lane multiple times
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 18 2012 23:02 GMT
#4298
The only time I've had the double death bug happen was on Kogmaw, and I was running ignite. Leona passive on him and ignites upfront damage put him in kill range for the leona passive which got the kill, but we both got credited for a kill.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
March 18 2012 23:07 GMT
#4299
Ugh. The one day I go out. My friends queue up against Westrice. Fuck my lief.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 18 2012 23:22 GMT
#4300
TSM vs Curse about to go down
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