EPT[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 215
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On March 19 2012 06:42 daemir wrote: Well, even Scarra would think twice for going against any Cassio as Ryze and he is twelve times better Ryze than Regi is. He explained quite in detail why Ryze is very bad pick vs Cassio in one of his VoDs (can't remember which one, sry). shouldn't it be logical that ryze has to stand still for him to burst you which makes him completely vulnerable to all of cass's spells? | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
And Cass can just push the wave and force Ryze to last hit under turret. He will lose CS to tower. You'll have to use spells to get some of it and then you run oom, while cass is free to roam or keep taking wraiths. Cass also good at turning ganks into 2v1 kills with ult. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Lorken
New Zealand804 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On March 19 2012 07:12 Lorken wrote: Anyone know if Matador Alistar is better than Golden Alistar? I personally think the original one looks better than all of them, but I thought I should buy a skin since I have had RP sitting there for a while. Matador alistar best skin. | ||
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Sickworld
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 19 2012 07:12 Lorken wrote: Anyone know if Matador Alistar is better than Golden Alistar? I personally think the original one looks better than all of them, but I thought I should buy a skin since I have had RP sitting there for a while. Matador es #1. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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HolyToss1911
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On March 19 2012 07:22 arnath wrote: Hey Moonbear, is Riot aware that the Karthus double death bug still exists? Just got a double kill on a Karthus by killing him once. Do you have steps to repduce it? I haven't seen it myself. On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote: So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)? Galio mebbe? Your shield will tick every time Cass poison ticks making trades inefficient for Cass if you level Shield first iirc. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote: So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)? Banning her. EDIT : On March 19 2012 07:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Galio mebbe? Your shield will tick every time Cass poison ticks making trades inefficient for Cass if you level Shield first iirc. Well Galio transforms any lane into a farming lane. Not sur it's what you want against Cassio :/ | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote: So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)? Ahri and LB both do well. | ||
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Nehsb
United States380 Posts
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote: So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)? I haven't played any good casses, but in my experience xerath is a good counter. (And I believe Chauster said something like that as well?) | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On March 19 2012 07:22 HolyToss1911 wrote: So what's a good counter to cass(if there is one)? I feel like I'm going to get Blown up for saying this, but I'll admit I think Fizz is a decent matchup vs.Cass however it can snowball against you very quickly if you make mistakes or the Cass is a superior player. 1. obviously you must be deceptive about going for last hits, but above all you MUST approach from inside the creep wave, forcing harass to push the lane. If you are sucsessful at this she will either have to let you farm or be suseptable to ganks. 2. Because you level E first, I prefer to use E to engage after an errant q by cass, E actually does more damage then people give it credit for, but to really make the harass worth it make sure to land 1-2 AA before using your own Q on a minion to put yourself back in the middle of the creep wave. Because of how the dash works you can use Q from behind her, but it is risky in my opinion, if she moves on you or just aim it poorly you stand to lose all you just gained. 3. Finally, even if you are outfarmed, a Sheen+ Fizz can combo Cass for almost her entire lifebar, do not be dicouraged, you can kill Cass even after losing lane by more than you would think, as long as you get Sheen before she gets giants belt for Rylai's you are a threat to her. There are likely easier options, but this does work, personally I like Ziggs, not as much kill potential but less dangerous, vs. Cass, but I've been put in situations where I've already picked and it's worked out to be what I think is a good matchup, but you will be sweating balls until the first time you kill her. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
It's a very dynamic match up, you have to go in and try to kill her, basically the one who's forced to run back first will die (or at least lose the trade) I haven't seen many cassiopeas at my ELO (1900 euw) lately, though, so I can't really offer a thorough explanation, but if anyone wants to test then I'd be up to it. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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