EPT[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 202
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On March 18 2012 03:08 zodde wrote: Yeah i guess, but I still think LS was too cheap of a stat. If one laner has LS and the other one doesn't, the one with lifesteal (wriggles, in most cases) would come out ahead of the trade. Maybe they should nerf LS against creeps as well, but I don't see a big problem with them nerfing the gold effiency of LS. Edit: They also said they wanted to make damage stick more. And since they can't nerf LS vs jungle creeps without severely hurting jungling, healing up against wraiths/wolves/golems during a fight would still be an issue with your proposition. What they did will affect jungle though, it's not just "my proposition", there's no way to nerf lifestealing off the jungle creeps when escaping a fight without nerfing jungling. Unless you hardcap LS vs jungle creeps/creeps On March 18 2012 03:34 spinesheath wrote: The lifesteal nerf is just a hidden buff to Bilgewater Cutlass and Executioner's Calling. Yeah Riot, I saw through your little scheme! Wow totally didn't notice that they didn't nerf LS on these items. Pretty sure Riot forgot about them as well, since they said something about nerfing all LS items except for doran blade (at least thts what i understood) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Qualm
721 Posts
EDIT: Actually, I'd even say they will become the new standard quints defensive AD carries unless people start doing exc calling rushes, which is also a possibility. They are now worth 270 gold of stats compared to the 263.25 of AD quints (and that's based on pickaxe, based on BF it's even less). | ||
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
On March 18 2012 03:39 Shikyo wrote: Assuming Wriggles lifesteal becomes 12%, Exec calling is going to be the new go-to item imo. Free ignite effect, decent DoT as harrass, a ton of lifesteal. I think we are just going to see more bruisers getting 2-3 Doran's Blades. Already it is becoming a more popular build on champions like Udyr, Lee Sin, and Riven. I bet other solo top champions like Irelia, GP, Wukong, and Teemo are going to start transitioning into this build. Executioner's Calling is just so underwhelming as an early item, because before damage items crit is such an inefficient stat. | ||
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
On March 18 2012 03:50 GreenManalishi wrote: I think we are just going to see more bruisers getting 2-3 Doran's Blades. Already it is becoming a more popular build on champions like Udyr, Lee Sin, and Riven. I bet other solo top champions like Irelia, GP, Wukong, and Teemo are going to start transitioning into this build. Executioner's Calling is just so underwhelming as an early item, because before damage items crit is such an inefficient stat. Because apparently GP/Wukong/Lee/Riven/Teemo with dblade stacking isn't considered normal? On another note, Lulu apparently has nearly 600 starting hp at level 1. What | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On March 18 2012 03:56 GARO wrote: Because apparently GP/Wukong/Lee/Riven/Teemo with dblade stacking once in a while in lane or even jungle isn't considered normal, right? On another note, Lulu apparently has nearly 600 starting hp at level 1. What I second that what. That is just...OP. Ah well, can't expect Riot to break their own pattern. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
On March 18 2012 03:56 GARO wrote: Because apparently GP/Wukong/Lee/Riven/Teemo with dblade stacking isn't considered normal? On another note, Lulu apparently has nearly 600 starting hp at level 1. What What's the scaling, though? Maybe level 1 is high but scaling is only average. Where's your sig from btw, I googled it and the first result was a post from you in tl.net haha. | ||
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
On March 18 2012 03:56 GARO wrote: Because apparently GP/Wukong/Lee/Riven/Teemo with dblade stacking isn't considered normal? On another note, Lulu apparently has nearly 600 starting hp at level 1. What I would say that currently it isn't normal to see GP, Wukong, or Teemo to only stack Doran's and skip Wriggle's. I've seen it a few times on Wukong, but GP and Teemo almost always go for a Wriggle's and then maybe add a Doran's or two afterwards. Right now, because of his attack damage steroid, heal and base damage, it is stronger to build Wriggle's on GP than just straight Doran's stacking in almost all situations. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Regardless, even if they nerf it down to 12% I still don't see very many people getting Exec when Wriggle's gives you AD and armor which is a lot more important to bruisers than crit chance. And Wriggle's still gives you a free ward. | ||
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
On March 18 2012 04:09 Slayer91 wrote: What's the scaling, though? Maybe level 1 is high but scaling is only average. http://www.lolpro.com/news/252-lulu-patch-skills-details-champions-and-items Apparently, she will have the highest base HP of any champ in the game by one point + as you guessed, 'average' hp/level growth if nothing drastic changes before her release. Where's your sig from btw, I googled it and the first result was a post from you in tl.net haha. I just took a villain's DARK AND EDGY quote and used it to make fun of his demise. He was actually pretty badass though, if you somehow think tokusatsu with gratuitous amounts of CGI is 'kool': An example - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl0tm3_kiba-vs-2-horrors_shortfilms | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 18 2012 04:14 overt wrote: Do we know for sure that Wriggle's is 12%? More likely that it'd be 13% if they're knocking 2% off vamp. Dunno why they'd chose to knock 3% off Wriggle's. Regardless, even if they nerf it down to 12% I still don't see very many people getting Exec when Wriggle's gives you AD and armor which is a lot more important to bruisers than crit chance. And Wriggle's still gives you a free ward. Because they knocked BTs by 5%? I'm going by percentages in the guesses, 15 -> 13 would seem silly edit: and according to that site I indeed was correct "Now only restores 5/7/9/11/13 health on basic attacks when passive." Good bye irelia =( | ||
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koreasilver
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
I also rushed Executioner's Calling on her when I was vs a Warwick top and I think it worked out. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Seriously, wtf? | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 18 2012 04:46 Cloud9157 wrote: I'm going to be stuck bitching about Irelia for the next week. Can't get over how retarded Riot is for doing this. Seriously, wtf? Yeah. WTF, she's not even close to be balanced still. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On March 18 2012 04:51 mr_tolkien wrote: Yeah. WTF, she's not even close to be balanced still. Please explain to me how she isn't balanced. One of the weakest early games for a top champ, not to mention how easily she get CP'd. Only thing that people can even whine about is her late game, but frankly, its your fault if you feed her/let her farm. Fuck, treat her just like you would Nasus. | ||
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Shikyo
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