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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 21 2012 17:07 GMT
#661
On March 22 2012 01:34 locodoco wrote:
easy game today but rapidstar made really dumb mistakes and i missed alot of cs,expect a cleaner MiG Frost this friday when we crush MKZ ( me and rjs got a score to settle with mid king )


Good luck with your further games. Try not to do overdo it with practice.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4668 Posts
March 21 2012 17:10 GMT
#662
Can't wait for the Korean commentated VODs to come out. Sorry, there is just something about watching OGN and having Korean commentary. Seems weird without it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 17:22:55
March 21 2012 17:14 GMT
#663
There's some really detailed stuff on the Korean site.

Match MVPs
Rune Pages
Masteries Pages
VODs page (matches not up yet)
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 21 2012 17:18 GMT
#664
I suppose it is kind of sad I can tell what those runepages are based on the rune picture and the numbers next to them.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
March 21 2012 17:20 GMT
#665
On March 21 2012 23:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
azubu has opened up their main coverage website
http://www.ognlol.com/league/main

Vods
http://www.ognlol.com/vod/main

They are taking this very very seriously

Are there actually VODs on this page? I just see a bunch of empty links that say "Coming Soon!"
Innuendo
Profile Joined June 2007
Belgium616 Posts
March 21 2012 17:34 GMT
#666
http://www.ognlol.com/league/main

It says the last game in the Bo3 and Bo5 matches will be blind pick. Has that ever been done in competitive play before?
Bisu fan, may the revolutionist return
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 21 2012 17:40 GMT
#667
On March 22 2012 02:34 Innuendo wrote:
http://www.ognlol.com/league/main

It says the last game in the Bo3 and Bo5 matches will be blind pick. Has that ever been done in competitive play before?


Only in the OGN Invitational. They had a game 3 and I think both teams ended up playing Nidalee top. Fun times all around.

Every other league/tournament to the best of my knowledge has used draft.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 21 2012 17:48 GMT
#668
I don't see a logical reason why you would switch it around for the deciding games. It takes away the whole strategy element of picks and bans and turns it into a luck game of who blindly outpicks whom.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
March 21 2012 18:31 GMT
#669
On March 22 2012 02:48 SirBlackJack wrote:
I don't see a logical reason why you would switch it around for the deciding games. It takes away the whole strategy element of picks and bans and turns it into a luck game of who blindly outpicks whom.


I think the KeSPA reasoning to this would go something along the lines of ...
1) Teams switch between first ban/first pick in the first and second match.
2) One of these two positions (first ban/first pick) is advantageous to the other. (mind you that for the Korean scene, their servers just came out a few months ago, and I'm not too sure how much they keep up with the foreigner meta)
3) Thus if you were to switch twice, one team would have an advantage in the final set.
4) Therefore, blind pick that last game so the the banning and picking chances are symmetrical.

@DreamingBird
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
March 21 2012 18:37 GMT
#670
Which should allow for some of the most epic cheeses assuming a team has the balls to do it (CLG I'm looking at you)
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 21 2012 18:49 GMT
#671
I dunno from a player stand point if blind pick is a great idea. But from a spectator point of view? It allows people to play their absolute best champions or best strategies.

I'm sure the Korean scene will change it eventually. Especially if we ever get a two tiered ban phase. But for now I'm going to enjoy the awesome craziness that will surely come out of blind pick round.
Jdorty
Profile Joined December 2010
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 18:53:15
March 21 2012 18:49 GMT
#672
The casters' knowledge of the game was just terrible. I understand they may still be learning about LoL, but it really irks me when casters make statements that are simply false. Their knowledge really reminded me of the WC3 tournament that Tastless and Artosis cast when they had no idea what was going on, except in that case it was funny because it was intentional and they played off it.

Kind of going hand in hand with the above, several times straight up incorrect calls were made. At one point a caster was exclaiming how Janna had barely survived with a sliver of health, when she had already been dead 5-10 seconds and you could clearly see her bright red respawn timer with 12 seconds remaining on the left side. He never corrected himself. This sort of general lack of awareness was abundant in all the games IMO.

The lack of knowledge is slightly frustrating knowing there are casters like Jatt, and even more so after watching SC2 tourny streams for so long =] I think if they learn the game better they might be fine, at least they didn't stutter/mumble/etc. That's much less easily fixable.

MKZ v DDol was ttttterrible. Mid was ok, but both bot lanes were just... miles behind what is expected from a competitive team.

Edit: Just for clarification, when I describe casters as being bad, take that with a grain of salt from what I expect from esports these days. And for teams being terrible, I mean for a highly competitive team level.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
March 21 2012 18:56 GMT
#673
The mastery pages are wrong for mig. The first one should be rapidstar, second one is woong, and third one is cloudtemplar.
GANDHISAUCE
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
March 21 2012 19:17 GMT
#674
On March 22 2012 03:31 Imbu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 02:48 SirBlackJack wrote:
I don't see a logical reason why you would switch it around for the deciding games. It takes away the whole strategy element of picks and bans and turns it into a luck game of who blindly outpicks whom.


I think the KeSPA reasoning to this would go something along the lines of ...
1) Teams switch between first ban/first pick in the first and second match.
2) One of these two positions (first ban/first pick) is advantageous to the other. (mind you that for the Korean scene, their servers just came out a few months ago, and I'm not too sure how much they keep up with the foreigner meta)
3) Thus if you were to switch twice, one team would have an advantage in the final set.
4) Therefore, blind pick that last game so the the banning and picking chances are symmetrical.


Yet give random spawns in BW... It's just silly..
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 21 2012 19:30 GMT
#675
thx for the vod links!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 21 2012 19:30 GMT
#676
Uhhg. The camerawork really needs some work in these VODs. Half the time a gank happens and all I see is "xxx has been slain"
Freeeeeeedom
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
March 21 2012 19:33 GMT
#677
On March 22 2012 02:10 hasuprotoss wrote:
Can't wait for the Korean commentated VODs to come out. Sorry, there is just something about watching OGN and having Korean commentary. Seems weird without it.


haha i feel the same way. Maybe its because I can hear the korean commentary in teh background
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 21 2012 22:43 GMT
#678
I have uploaded Korean Vods, it takes about 2 hours or so till youtube to encode it.
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
March 21 2012 23:09 GMT
#679
On March 22 2012 04:17 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 03:31 Imbu wrote:
On March 22 2012 02:48 SirBlackJack wrote:
I don't see a logical reason why you would switch it around for the deciding games. It takes away the whole strategy element of picks and bans and turns it into a luck game of who blindly outpicks whom.


I think the KeSPA reasoning to this would go something along the lines of ...
1) Teams switch between first ban/first pick in the first and second match.
2) One of these two positions (first ban/first pick) is advantageous to the other. (mind you that for the Korean scene, their servers just came out a few months ago, and I'm not too sure how much they keep up with the foreigner meta)
3) Thus if you were to switch twice, one team would have an advantage in the final set.
4) Therefore, blind pick that last game so the the banning and picking chances are symmetrical.


Yet give random spawns in BW... It's just silly..


random spawns cuts down on cheese (whats the point of having 4 spawns if you always know opponent is far position?) also if you make your maps with minimal position imbalance random spawns does not matter, and makes scouting more important.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
March 21 2012 23:27 GMT
#680
Is there a thread on this in the official LoL forums? I didn't see one and that's kind of sad for such a large tournament.
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