General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it. ~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
On March 22 2012 01:34 locodoco wrote: easy game today but rapidstar made really dumb mistakes and i missed alot of cs,expect a cleaner MiG Frost this friday when we crush MKZ ( me and rjs got a score to settle with mid king )
Good luck with your further games. Try not to do overdo it with practice.
Can't wait for the Korean commentated VODs to come out. Sorry, there is just something about watching OGN and having Korean commentary. Seems weird without it.
I don't see a logical reason why you would switch it around for the deciding games. It takes away the whole strategy element of picks and bans and turns it into a luck game of who blindly outpicks whom.
On March 22 2012 02:48 SirBlackJack wrote: I don't see a logical reason why you would switch it around for the deciding games. It takes away the whole strategy element of picks and bans and turns it into a luck game of who blindly outpicks whom.
I think the KeSPA reasoning to this would go something along the lines of ... 1) Teams switch between first ban/first pick in the first and second match. 2) One of these two positions (first ban/first pick) is advantageous to the other. (mind you that for the Korean scene, their servers just came out a few months ago, and I'm not too sure how much they keep up with the foreigner meta) 3) Thus if you were to switch twice, one team would have an advantage in the final set. 4) Therefore, blind pick that last game so the the banning and picking chances are symmetrical.
I dunno from a player stand point if blind pick is a great idea. But from a spectator point of view? It allows people to play their absolute best champions or best strategies.
I'm sure the Korean scene will change it eventually. Especially if we ever get a two tiered ban phase. But for now I'm going to enjoy the awesome craziness that will surely come out of blind pick round.
The casters' knowledge of the game was just terrible. I understand they may still be learning about LoL, but it really irks me when casters make statements that are simply false. Their knowledge really reminded me of the WC3 tournament that Tastless and Artosis cast when they had no idea what was going on, except in that case it was funny because it was intentional and they played off it.
Kind of going hand in hand with the above, several times straight up incorrect calls were made. At one point a caster was exclaiming how Janna had barely survived with a sliver of health, when she had already been dead 5-10 seconds and you could clearly see her bright red respawn timer with 12 seconds remaining on the left side. He never corrected himself. This sort of general lack of awareness was abundant in all the games IMO.
The lack of knowledge is slightly frustrating knowing there are casters like Jatt, and even more so after watching SC2 tourny streams for so long =] I think if they learn the game better they might be fine, at least they didn't stutter/mumble/etc. That's much less easily fixable.
MKZ v DDol was ttttterrible. Mid was ok, but both bot lanes were just... miles behind what is expected from a competitive team.
Edit: Just for clarification, when I describe casters as being bad, take that with a grain of salt from what I expect from esports these days. And for teams being terrible, I mean for a highly competitive team level.
On March 22 2012 02:48 SirBlackJack wrote: I don't see a logical reason why you would switch it around for the deciding games. It takes away the whole strategy element of picks and bans and turns it into a luck game of who blindly outpicks whom.
I think the KeSPA reasoning to this would go something along the lines of ... 1) Teams switch between first ban/first pick in the first and second match. 2) One of these two positions (first ban/first pick) is advantageous to the other. (mind you that for the Korean scene, their servers just came out a few months ago, and I'm not too sure how much they keep up with the foreigner meta) 3) Thus if you were to switch twice, one team would have an advantage in the final set. 4) Therefore, blind pick that last game so the the banning and picking chances are symmetrical.
On March 22 2012 02:10 hasuprotoss wrote: Can't wait for the Korean commentated VODs to come out. Sorry, there is just something about watching OGN and having Korean commentary. Seems weird without it.
haha i feel the same way. Maybe its because I can hear the korean commentary in teh background
On March 22 2012 02:48 SirBlackJack wrote: I don't see a logical reason why you would switch it around for the deciding games. It takes away the whole strategy element of picks and bans and turns it into a luck game of who blindly outpicks whom.
I think the KeSPA reasoning to this would go something along the lines of ... 1) Teams switch between first ban/first pick in the first and second match. 2) One of these two positions (first ban/first pick) is advantageous to the other. (mind you that for the Korean scene, their servers just came out a few months ago, and I'm not too sure how much they keep up with the foreigner meta) 3) Thus if you were to switch twice, one team would have an advantage in the final set. 4) Therefore, blind pick that last game so the the banning and picking chances are symmetrical.
Yet give random spawns in BW... It's just silly..
random spawns cuts down on cheese (whats the point of having 4 spawns if you always know opponent is far position?) also if you make your maps with minimal position imbalance random spawns does not matter, and makes scouting more important.