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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 18 2012 13:54 GMT
#3241
On April 18 2012 22:52 Phats wrote:
I think it is good way to settle a 1-1 lock. Instead of giving the advantage to the winners of the first game for the game 3 by having a ban/pick advantage or blue side choice etc.

Though I think Shen not being mirrored was a mistake as he is soo STRONGK!

Eh so rather than have a slight advantage by having someone be able to first pick they should play in a mode no team practices in and no other tournament uses? Who practices Ryze vs Ryze? Olaf vs Olaf? Urgot vs Urgot. Not to mention having a first pick advantage means letting the other team have the chance to have a really good counterpick with their last pick.

This was funny, but a really dumb move in a serious tournament.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
April 18 2012 13:55 GMT
#3242
I think a cute way would be to make it so that any champion that gets picked by both teams is banned, and then they do the picks over until there are no mirrors.
3.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#3243
Not to mention that 1 team SHOULD have the advantage cuz they won their group. Give them the slight advantage in game 3.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#3244
On April 18 2012 22:54 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 22:52 Phats wrote:
I think it is good way to settle a 1-1 lock. Instead of giving the advantage to the winners of the first game for the game 3 by having a ban/pick advantage or blue side choice etc.

Though I think Shen not being mirrored was a mistake as he is soo STRONGK!

Eh so rather than have a slight advantage by having someone be able to first pick they should play in a mode no team practices in and no other tournament uses? Who practices Ryze vs Ryze? Olaf vs Olaf? Urgot vs Urgot. Not to mention having a first pick advantage means letting the other team have the chance to have a really good counterpick with their last pick.

This was funny, but a really dumb move in a serious tournament.


Having last pick/first pick is a pretty big advantage/disadvantage. Being able to 100% counter-pick a certain lane can easily decide a game.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#3245
What did Loco just say?
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
April 18 2012 13:57 GMT
#3246
The last minute 3 mirrors was so hilarious. This game turned out to be fine and mirror match ups (can be) are funny. But chances are one team gets a (maybe even pretty big) advantage in future games just by pure luck = gimmicky coin flip. That doesn't mean it's not fun to watch.
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
April 18 2012 13:57 GMT
#3247
On April 18 2012 22:56 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
What did Loco just say?


He confessed his love for Doublelift or something.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 18 2012 13:58 GMT
#3248
On April 18 2012 22:56 StUfF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 22:54 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:52 Phats wrote:
I think it is good way to settle a 1-1 lock. Instead of giving the advantage to the winners of the first game for the game 3 by having a ban/pick advantage or blue side choice etc.

Though I think Shen not being mirrored was a mistake as he is soo STRONGK!

Eh so rather than have a slight advantage by having someone be able to first pick they should play in a mode no team practices in and no other tournament uses? Who practices Ryze vs Ryze? Olaf vs Olaf? Urgot vs Urgot. Not to mention having a first pick advantage means letting the other team have the chance to have a really good counterpick with their last pick.

This was funny, but a really dumb move in a serious tournament.


Having last pick/first pick is a pretty big advantage/disadvantage. Being able to 100% counter-pick a certain lane can easily decide a game.

And so is being able to first pick something you really want and the other team does too like Janna or Kog Maw
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
April 18 2012 14:00 GMT
#3249
i can't watch the stream and the results arent in op. Who won?
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
April 18 2012 14:01 GMT
#3250
Zoom in on Torch-crotch OP.
My modesty is awesome.
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
April 18 2012 14:01 GMT
#3251
MiG won 2-1 over Najin
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
April 18 2012 14:02 GMT
#3252
On April 18 2012 22:52 Ente wrote:
I think one of the main problems was the itemization, completly focused on getting more and more Armor (they had a frozen heart on Ryze Urgot and Maokai which was kinda overkill....)

personally I didnt like the Blindpick, hard to watch the fights because of same champions and imho the picking phase is an important part of the game and it is in my opinion an important skill to outpick your opponent

Edit: In both of the games I saw (2 and 3) both teams made so many mistakes, I didnt really enjoy watching it that much ) : (I dont want to say that these teams are bad, just so many mistakes ) : )


There were a total of 5 Frozen Hearts in this game o.O

The one biggish mistake I saw in game 2 was when all of NaJin walked into the Galio ult at Baron.
My modesty is awesome.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
April 18 2012 14:07 GMT
#3253
lol that nony shoutout.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 18 2012 14:08 GMT
#3254
yeahhhhhh they took my question :D
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
April 18 2012 14:09 GMT
#3255
"We're constantly going to win so of course you're going to see more ceremonies." -Locodoco
My modesty is awesome.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
April 18 2012 14:10 GMT
#3256
Zenon we write on 2 forums about the game we are too good!
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
April 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#3257
So far Blind Pick hasn't been a coin toss--3 mirrors is anything but a coin toss.

I think Blind Pick has merit; but the players should get a chance to pick runes and summoners after seeing the enemy lineup to take some randomness out of the early game
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
April 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#3258
I've had concurrent conversations about the game on TL, Twitter, German lol forums and a Facebook group. Plus two instant messengers. Multitasking ftw! But yeah, other than you no one reacted to me on the German forums. Teamliquid is generally just too good when it comes to discussing matches as they happen. Look at this 163 page thread! Pretty insane.
My modesty is awesome.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22347 Posts
April 18 2012 14:24 GMT
#3259
<3 Zenon

While blindpick removes a huge part of the game I can still understand that OGN doesnt want there to be a first pick/ban/last pick advantage for the deciding game.

Not sure yet if its worth the loss of ban phase tho, need some more games for that.

Props to casters btw for managing to keep is somewhat managable with both teams having 3 identical champions. must make it a lot harder to cast without just being to use champion names.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 18 2012 14:24 GMT
#3260
On April 18 2012 23:13 DanielZKlein wrote:
I've had concurrent conversations about the game on TL, Twitter, German lol forums and a Facebook group. Plus two instant messengers. Multitasking ftw! But yeah, other than you no one reacted to me on the German forums. Teamliquid is generally just too good when it comes to discussing matches as they happen. Look at this 163 page thread! Pretty insane.


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