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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2012 19:53 GMT
#301
On February 15 2012 04:47 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
What's a good build for jungle Shen? I've been starting cloth 5 into Zeke's Herald then Aegis.

I thought I saw a couple people going Ruby start then boots - HoG - whatever, but I don't know what's going to be considered normal in the future.
It's your boy Guzma!
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
February 14 2012 19:57 GMT
#302
Just from playing one game with him, I didn't really need the pots.
:3
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 14 2012 19:59 GMT
#303
On February 15 2012 04:53 Mios wrote:
CLG vs. CLG.eu scrim champ select starting

Bans/picks?
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 14 2012 20:03 GMT
#304
Missed bans.

EU
Corki, Soraka, Alistar, Malphite, Irelia

NA
Olaf, Janna, GP, Ryze, Graves
Hey! How you doin'?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 20:04:43
February 14 2012 20:04 GMT
#305
Inept got baited

Yay CLG scrim! Looking forward to seeing some Olaf.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
February 14 2012 20:04 GMT
#306
Solo Top Shen with Atmogs running TP would probably be unstoppable now. buffed health to damage ratio = Insane ki strke damage. 50% damage reduction on 3700+ health = unkillable. Ult and TP = Split push all day like all good solo tops do. Why can new Shen not do?
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 14 2012 20:05 GMT
#307
No idea why hsgg wanted Olaf when they had Malphite. Frozen heart 2 gud.
Hey! How you doin'?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 14 2012 20:06 GMT
#308
What did they do to WW passive? Did they remove the stacking thing? That would be a massive nerf....I love my WW

I also happen to own Shen :O.

I gotta play him but the changes look like they completely change his build and itemization. His dash is now comlpletely a one point wonder. And AS seems to be absurdly strong on him, proccing Ki every 3rd or 4th attack with shield on..... thats nuts. He should be one of the best dualists ingame with the shield and 50% Damage reduction with taunt from level one.

Im going to try a build maxing Feint over dagger and just fucking whaling on kids while stacking health...it looks ridiculous.

Itemization:

Ionic looks strong with the health adding 25ad to his kistrike plus help pushing and gets you assists
Zekes also looks great with the same health, lifesteal and 15CDR which is key
Youmuus also good with fat AS and CDR, armorpen not as useful
Malady could be build-able as he is all magic damage

defensively
Randuins always strong on shen with his taunt
Spirit Visage could be alright early for more sustain if you are against rumble or other magic
Warmogs, very strong synergy with passive, 127damage added every 3/4 attacks for free...nuts

Atmas going to always be in there with the amount of health you want to stack

This is going to play completely differently than old shen.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 20:10:00
February 14 2012 20:09 GMT
#309
Olaf just picked as a counter to irelia. Pretty sure navi mentioned it, I first saw it by Dyrus though.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 20:12:52
February 14 2012 20:11 GMT
#310
On February 15 2012 04:09 Mogwai wrote:
who cares about the numbers? I'm not even trying to point out elo here, I'm saying if Neo, myself and Slayer don't have this dude's respect enough to take our word on how these matchups play out, who on this forum can convince him of anything?

let's drop the whole e-peen measuring contest and just drop arguing with cloud since he's dead set on being right about Shen being weak in lane or something.

Pfft neo, all I know about that guy is jiji carrying him out of elo hell.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 14 2012 20:11 GMT
#311
To be honest with all of you
I like when Shen is OP.
I dunno why but Shen feel more legit being OP than other character. x)
Perhaps because ye.. Shen is a bit more difficult to play than Rammus or Galio.

But Shen is a Guinsoo character. These never get the right balance. Same for Shaco or Eve/Twitch.
The guy is from dota, you can't blame him !
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
February 14 2012 20:15 GMT
#312
Is there a list somewhere of which designers made which champs?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 14 2012 20:16 GMT
#313
On February 15 2012 05:06 sob3k wrote:
What did they do to WW passive? Did they remove the stacking thing? That would be a massive nerf....I love my WW


Decent write up at the LoL forum: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1819271
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
February 14 2012 20:22 GMT
#314
On February 15 2012 05:11 Noocta wrote:
To be honest with all of you
I like when Shen is OP.
I dunno why but Shen feel more legit being OP than other character. x)
Perhaps because ye.. Shen is a bit more difficult to play than Rammus or Galio.

But Shen is a Guinsoo character. These never get the right balance. Same for Shaco or Eve/Twitch.
The guy is from dota, you can't blame him !


Shen is definitely my favorite tank to play even when he was considered weak. I think he has too much utility to be allowed being powerful. but he was so mediocre in every aspect that he didn't have a defined role. He needed farm so he couldn't really support. His jungle was slow and he couldn't deal damage even if he had farm and built his tank items. His only strength was being a strong split pusher. However, Nid, GP and Singed are strong in that area as well and are much more useful in duels and team fights. Now that Shen's damage has been buffed and is more tanky, he can do well most of the things that a solo top normally does.






神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#315
Hey, Galio isn't that easy ! There's finesse to him if you want to use his utility well and at the right times.

On February 15 2012 03:55 Requizen wrote:
So many tanky CC champs out, it's absurd how hard they win solo queue almost singlehandedly. A good Blitz wins pretty much every teamfight, I can't imagine how absurd Naut's effect on them will be. He can basically slow/knockup the entire enemy team, and stun/drag/snare a carry into oblivion. Even without doing damage, even the derpiest of retard solo queue-rs will have no trouble taking advantage of that.


I don't know. They typically lack sustain, and aren't that good at farming. It would be easy to push Sej or Blitz under tower at early levels, where they can't last hit easily. I agree that once farmed they're very strong, but to get them there?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 20:24:58
February 14 2012 20:24 GMT
#316
Saintvicious: I'm going to ward this (at blue with hsgg)
*wards the edge in bush*
*hsgg wards half an inch away one second later*
... I thought to myself when Saint said that, what great communication. Apparently its worth crap lol.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 14 2012 20:34 GMT
#317
Wow one teamfight clg vs clg and it was over
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
February 14 2012 20:36 GMT
#318
it was just the first teamfight where Doublelift didn't die for nothing be caught out of position.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2012 20:36 GMT
#319
On February 15 2012 05:23 Alaric wrote:
Hey, Galio isn't that easy ! There's finesse to him if you want to use his utility well and at the right times.

Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 03:55 Requizen wrote:
So many tanky CC champs out, it's absurd how hard they win solo queue almost singlehandedly. A good Blitz wins pretty much every teamfight, I can't imagine how absurd Naut's effect on them will be. He can basically slow/knockup the entire enemy team, and stun/drag/snare a carry into oblivion. Even without doing damage, even the derpiest of retard solo queue-rs will have no trouble taking advantage of that.


I don't know. They typically lack sustain, and aren't that good at farming. It would be easy to push Sej or Blitz under tower at early levels, where they can't last hit easily. I agree that once farmed they're very strong, but to get them there?

Naut might break that, though. His shield is a pretty darn good pushing ability that helps negate harass, and ult-Q means you can't get away from him once he hits 6. His jungle ganks seem really strong too, and maybe even his harass in the jungle.
It's your boy Guzma!
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
February 14 2012 20:37 GMT
#320
On February 15 2012 05:34 epoc wrote:
Wow one teamfight clg vs clg and it was over


meh, CLG.eu plays with horrible pings on the NA tournament server and you could see that. iirc NA to EU would be better ping wise than EU to NA.
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