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On February 15 2012 03:55 Requizen wrote:
So many tanky CC champs out, it's absurd how hard they win solo queue almost singlehandedly. A good Blitz wins pretty much every teamfight, I can't imagine how absurd Naut's effect on them will be. He can basically slow/knockup the entire enemy team, and stun/drag/snare a carry into oblivion. Even without doing damage, even the derpiest of retard solo queue-rs will have no trouble taking advantage of that.
How do they win solo queue? I've played blitz recently and it was only after we started winning that I landed a few hooks. Once on an AD carry through a wall and once on a Morde walking through our line of sight. I felt like if the enemy hadn't been so stupid, Blitz would have been fairly weak.
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On February 15 2012 05:37 DoXa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 05:34 epoc wrote:
Wow one teamfight clg vs clg and it was over meh, CLG.eu plays with horrible pings on the NA tournament server and you could see that. iirc NA to EU would be better ping wise than EU to NA.
I think it's actually the case that EU get better ping on NA tourney realm, than NA gets on EU tourney realm... which is why clg.eu are ok with playing on NA. It's something like 180 ping for EU->NA, and 220 ping for NA->EU.
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On February 15 2012 05:37 DoXa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 05:34 epoc wrote:
Wow one teamfight clg vs clg and it was over meh, CLG.eu plays with horrible pings on the NA tournament server and you could see that. iirc NA to EU would be better ping wise than EU to NA.
They want to keep practising on the NA server to get used to the pings apparently due to their match v Convergence Gaming for IPL4 qualifiers.
But yeah you can see Froggen doing really badly there with his ultimates.
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On February 15 2012 05:43 Dgiese wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 05:37 DoXa wrote:On February 15 2012 05:34 epoc wrote:
Wow one teamfight clg vs clg and it was over meh, CLG.eu plays with horrible pings on the NA tournament server and you could see that. iirc NA to EU would be better ping wise than EU to NA. I think it's actually the case that EU get better ping on NA tourney realm, than NA gets on EU tourney realm... which is why clg.eu are ok with playing on NA. It's something like 180 ping for EU->NA, and 220 ping for NA->EU.
It's mainly west coast to EU. TSM gets ~100 ping on EUW.
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On February 15 2012 05:46 Koenig99 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 05:43 Dgiese wrote:On February 15 2012 05:37 DoXa wrote:On February 15 2012 05:34 epoc wrote:
Wow one teamfight clg vs clg and it was over meh, CLG.eu plays with horrible pings on the NA tournament server and you could see that. iirc NA to EU would be better ping wise than EU to NA. I think it's actually the case that EU get better ping on NA tourney realm, than NA gets on EU tourney realm... which is why clg.eu are ok with playing on NA. It's something like 180 ping for EU->NA, and 220 ping for NA->EU. It's mainly west coast to EU. TSM gets ~100 ping on EUW.
yeah, if you live on the west coast you have way better pings from NA to EU because you get ~200 ping to NA from central europe. but i dunno where the CLG guys live.
either way it's now clear why they're playing on NA (practice for CLG.eu because of IPL). just wanted to highlight it to those who might wonder why Froggen missed so many ults
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CLG.us Support Galio + AP Kog right now. Ridiculous comp.
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On February 15 2012 05:38 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 03:55 Requizen wrote:
So many tanky CC champs out, it's absurd how hard they win solo queue almost singlehandedly. A good Blitz wins pretty much every teamfight, I can't imagine how absurd Naut's effect on them will be. He can basically slow/knockup the entire enemy team, and stun/drag/snare a carry into oblivion. Even without doing damage, even the derpiest of retard solo queue-rs will have no trouble taking advantage of that. How do they win solo queue? I've played blitz recently and it was only after we started winning that I landed a few hooks. Once on an AD carry through a wall and once on a Morde walking through our line of sight. I felt like if the enemy hadn't been so stupid, Blitz would have been fairly weak.
I honestly have the opposite experience. In solo queue games, a Blitz who's good at grabbing things before a fight starts turns any fight into a 4v5 npnp. It's easy to take advantage of a situation when one of your teammates grabs an enemy, pops them up, and silences them while the rest of you murder that person into the ground. Similarly, an Amumu bandage toss - Ult will mean you win that fight most of the time.
I think that it has to do with the lack of communication in those games. You never really know when a teamfight is starting until someone does something, and with strong initiation and CC, it can really turn it around.
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CLG.eu vs CLG.na scrim Game 2
Order: AD, Support, Jungle, AP, Top
EU
yellowpete: Corki
krepo: Soraka
snoopeh: Nocturne
froggen: Kennen
wickd: GP
NA
doublelift: Caytlin
chauster: Galio
saintvicious: Trundle
bigfatlp: Kog Maw
hotshotgg: Irelia
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A team that's losing is more likely to be uncoordinated, and moreover, enemy movements are very predictable when you know they're intent on running away more than fighting.
Nautilus just seems so sluggish, which is not a very appealing quality in a tank.
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On February 15 2012 05:56 Niton wrote:
CLG.us Support Galio + AP Kog right now. Ridiculous comp.
A guy called WW solo gamer has hard carried games with and against me with AP kog, never seen him lose with it. Sick with blue buffs can poke a team down from full to zero almost. Tears-->RoA-->Voidstaff->archangel build into cap i think.
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i really think gailo could be a standard support if his shield healed the target instead of him.
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Of course, he's basically one of the best AP heroes in the game, so he doesn't need it?
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Can anyone explain why SV picked trundle, it felt like he did nothing all game exept 1v1 soraka?
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On February 15 2012 06:44 Innuendo wrote:
Can anyone explain why SV picked trundle, it felt like he did nothing all game exept 1v1 soraka?
They wanted a disengage comp, since kogmaw doesn't have any escape. So with galio ult and trundle pillar, they can allow kog to kite and just spam his ult.
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On February 15 2012 06:32 jadoth wrote:
i really think gailo could be a standard support if his shield healed the target instead of him.
seen galio support a handful of times in ranked, definitely viable
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Well that was one crazyass scrim.
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Nobody seems to really talk about the AP champ nerfs. A lot of these champs were ones considered OP by streamers who said they were OP and banned them. Vlad, Ryze, Cassio, Kennen and Ahri were nerfed but the nerfs didn't seem that much. Surprised Ziggs wasn't nerfed though.
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Ziggs wasn't nerfed because he's not out since long enough and they usually wait a few patches before nerfing/buffing a champ unless he's blatantly op/up. If he gets nerfed it'll probably be in one or two patches. And anyways I dont expect him to be nerfed so much.
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Theoretically shen can support now since he has a non self heal (of sorts).
On February 15 2012 05:58 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 05:38 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On February 15 2012 03:55 Requizen wrote:
So many tanky CC champs out, it's absurd how hard they win solo queue almost singlehandedly. A good Blitz wins pretty much every teamfight, I can't imagine how absurd Naut's effect on them will be. He can basically slow/knockup the entire enemy team, and stun/drag/snare a carry into oblivion. Even without doing damage, even the derpiest of retard solo queue-rs will have no trouble taking advantage of that. How do they win solo queue? I've played blitz recently and it was only after we started winning that I landed a few hooks. Once on an AD carry through a wall and once on a Morde walking through our line of sight. I felt like if the enemy hadn't been so stupid, Blitz would have been fairly weak. I honestly have the opposite experience. In solo queue games, a Blitz who's good at grabbing things before a fight starts turns any fight into a 4v5 npnp. It's easy to take advantage of a situation when one of your teammates grabs an enemy, pops them up, and silences them while the rest of you murder that person into the ground. Similarly, an Amumu bandage toss - Ult will mean you win that fight most of the time. I think that it has to do with the lack of communication in those games. You never really know when a teamfight is starting until someone does something, and with strong initiation and CC, it can really turn it around.
I'll try it out with blitz top lane more. My teammates would be mad if I didn't gank well for them as a jungler, and I don't think he can handle being outside top lane.
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