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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 05 2012 17:38 GMT
#1361
On February 06 2012 02:21 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 02:20 Frolossus wrote:
how strong is ahri right now in solo queue?


Very strong, if you can land skill shots


impossible
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 17:41:25
February 05 2012 17:41 GMT
#1362
On February 06 2012 02:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 02:21 0123456789 wrote:
On February 06 2012 02:20 Frolossus wrote:
how strong is ahri right now in solo queue?


Very strong, if you can land skill shots


impossible


I know she is a bit above your skill level. Just practice her 100 games and you will get better. Nobody is magically a prodigy at LoL. It's ok.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 05 2012 17:46 GMT
#1363
i think you underestimate how difficult it is to hit these "skillshots"
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
February 05 2012 17:56 GMT
#1364
On February 06 2012 02:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think you underestimate how difficult it is to hit these "skillshots"


Have you ever TRIED hitting Morganna bindings? Those things move so slooooow, it's almost impossible to hit them.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 05 2012 18:05 GMT
#1365
thats why morg highest skill cap AP mid in the game
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 18:19:28
February 05 2012 18:10 GMT
#1366
On February 06 2012 03:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
thats why morg highest skill cap AP mid in the game


Ok dude, I know that your chinese server is like 3 patches behind and all. But there's this new champion called ziggs. Takes way more skill than morganna.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 05 2012 18:15 GMT
#1367
On February 06 2012 03:10 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 03:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
thats why morg highest skill cap AP mid in the game


To make morg less UP, they need to make Morg's q have a projectile speed that is as fast as thundering shuriken and her ult have a 0.5 sec detonate time.

How about you stop trolling?
Off-season = best season
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 18:19:28
February 05 2012 18:19 GMT
#1368
TBH, they are both trolling at this point. If ahri was really impossible to play, froggen wouldnt play her every single time anivia was banned.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 05 2012 18:22 GMT
#1369
Ahri isn't impossibly to play but her effectiveness in the game is pretty dependent on the player. Lane play depends on how the Ahri player reacts to her lane opponent and push/harrass accordingly. If you can't do that, you're probably gonna lose with her :/
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 18:26:51
February 05 2012 18:25 GMT
#1370
On February 06 2012 03:22 Nos- wrote:
Ahri isn't impossibly to play but her effectiveness in the game is pretty dependent on the player. Lane play depends on how the Ahri player reacts to her lane opponent and push/harrass accordingly. If you can't do that, you're probably gonna lose with her :/

Sounds a lot like Brand, Cass, Morg and about every other champion in the game.
Edit: not trying to be a dick, but how is Ahri more dependant on playing her lane correctly than everyone else?
currently rooting for myself.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 18:31:32
February 05 2012 18:27 GMT
#1371
Trynd's pretty faceroll-y. I mean you just right click and.. go. There's not much else to him. I don't feel like Yi takes all that much learning either, you just use your ultimate and right click dudes until they all die. But yeah I mean if you can't play a hero you probably aren't going to win with him/her, some are just easier to learn than others.

Edit: I say she's more dependent cause I've pretty much only played Ahri and then supports when playing ranked, I can't really say much about other heroes, but when I first picked up Ahri I was getting trashed, whereas when Trynd was free I still won most of my games without a clue as to how to properly play the guy.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 18:32:52
February 05 2012 18:31 GMT
#1372
Ahri's hard to dodge when she ults right up next to you and E's you immediately after o_o.

On February 06 2012 02:24 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 02:15 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I like how everyone ignores the idea of mundo jungling even after the guide on solomid and M5 doing it. Mundo jungle still terribad. Worse double bad than Eve :p


I've had moderate success with Mundo jungle. Your clear speed at the early levels is average, probably about the same as Warwick or Olaf. Your ganks pre-6 are nothing special although not terrible. After 6 they're pretty dangerous. Mundo tower dives as he pleases, after all.

I always felt mundo's weakness was the fact he lost more life than twitch while jungling, was a horrible duelist (max all the AoE!), died in his own ganks 2v1 because of his sustain, relied on his cleaver, and had horrible ganks. I never thought his clear speed was bad. Then again I haven't played him either.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 05 2012 18:44 GMT
#1373
On February 06 2012 03:27 Nos- wrote:
Trynd's pretty faceroll-y. I mean you just right click and.. go. There's not much else to him. I don't feel like Yi takes all that much learning either, you just use your ultimate and right click dudes until they all die. But yeah I mean if you can't play a hero you probably aren't going to win with him/her, some are just easier to learn than others.

Edit: I say she's more dependent cause I've pretty much only played Ahri and then supports when playing ranked, I can't really say much about other heroes, but when I first picked up Ahri I was getting trashed, whereas when Trynd was free I still won most of my games without a clue as to how to properly play the guy.

Ah alright. I misunderstood you.
I'd agree that Trynd is considerably easier than Ahri. You STILL need to be able to play a lane properly, which is something that's only loosely related to the actual difficulty of a champion. Anyway, good point.
currently rooting for myself.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
February 05 2012 18:48 GMT
#1374
On February 06 2012 03:31 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Ahri's hard to dodge when she ults right up next to you and E's you immediately after o_o.

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 02:24 Alzadar wrote:
On February 06 2012 02:15 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I like how everyone ignores the idea of mundo jungling even after the guide on solomid and M5 doing it. Mundo jungle still terribad. Worse double bad than Eve :p


I've had moderate success with Mundo jungle. Your clear speed at the early levels is average, probably about the same as Warwick or Olaf. Your ganks pre-6 are nothing special although not terrible. After 6 they're pretty dangerous. Mundo tower dives as he pleases, after all.

I always felt mundo's weakness was the fact he lost more life than twitch while jungling, was a horrible duelist (max all the AoE!), died in his own ganks 2v1 because of his sustain, relied on his cleaver, and had horrible ganks. I never thought his clear speed was bad. Then again I haven't played him either.

i bet mundo is better at ganking when you max e over q. thats a lot of dmg with red buff. ive never done it though
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
February 05 2012 19:02 GMT
#1375
On February 06 2012 03:48 Attakijing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 03:31 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Ahri's hard to dodge when she ults right up next to you and E's you immediately after o_o.

On February 06 2012 02:24 Alzadar wrote:
On February 06 2012 02:15 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I like how everyone ignores the idea of mundo jungling even after the guide on solomid and M5 doing it. Mundo jungle still terribad. Worse double bad than Eve :p


I've had moderate success with Mundo jungle. Your clear speed at the early levels is average, probably about the same as Warwick or Olaf. Your ganks pre-6 are nothing special although not terrible. After 6 they're pretty dangerous. Mundo tower dives as he pleases, after all.

I always felt mundo's weakness was the fact he lost more life than twitch while jungling, was a horrible duelist (max all the AoE!), died in his own ganks 2v1 because of his sustain, relied on his cleaver, and had horrible ganks. I never thought his clear speed was bad. Then again I haven't played him either.

i bet mundo is better at ganking when you max e over q. thats a lot of dmg with red buff. ive never done it though


The problem with mundo ganks is you have 0 gap closers. If you max e over q and do get to them they will die but it's so easy to run away from mundo.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 05 2012 19:03 GMT
#1376
I've felt jungle mundo was pretty good for a while now >_>

Start w, max e > q > w, sure you can't gank a lane unless its overextended, but a farmed mundo is really strong lategame.
boomer hands
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#1377
On February 06 2012 03:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
thats why morg highest skill cap AP mid in the game

anivia anyone?
morg is my ez-mode champion
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 19:12:44
February 05 2012 19:11 GMT
#1378
I dunno. If I was playing jungle mundo I would open with q for level 1 fights and the ability to gank at level 2 with q-w.

Probably do a red start as well.

But thats just hypothetical cuz thats what seems like the best to me.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 20:31:18
February 05 2012 20:28 GMT
#1379
Holy balls, pantheon is BY FAR the best champ to noobstomp your ELO out of the gutter of all the ones i've tried. He just crushes people who dont know how to play against him, has the mobility to gank/assist other lanes whenever he feels like it, and can actually maintain serious damage/carry output later in the game after you get so fed you slap atmogs on him.

I tried Akali, ok, but too single target and squishy
I tried Sion, ridiculous, but if your noob allies let the game go too long you have no consistant damage and its horrible
I tried LB, sick, but later game you can only burst down one or two enemies
I tried Trynd, ok, but to hard to get super fed with his lack of kit

panth is just a fucking BOSS, and I still get matched up against GP's who open brawlers into avarice blade and all sorts of hilarious shit and die literally 20 seconds after entering lane. Plus bad kids bunch up so much in teamfights that you can land 4 person heartseekers that kill their entire team singlehandedly.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
February 05 2012 20:33 GMT
#1380
please give jax a MK jax skin with metal arms

kthx bye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
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