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On February 03 2012 06:30 BobMcJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 06:24 starfries wrote:
Is that Mejai's/Archangel/Spirit Visage/double spellvamp Anivia build actually any good, or is Froggen just THAT good at Anivia that he gets away with it? Dunno about the mejai/archangel but Ocelote was using the double spellvamp + spirit visage combo in his Cassiopea tutorial with Mr. Bitter, so I guess it's legit. Makes him pretty tanky while still having quite a lot of AP. Archangel is probably here since Anivia needs a lot more mana than Cassio (who can use deathcap instead). Mejai feels a bit trollish but since they were stomping aAa real hard it's ok 
mejai works because anivia has egg to keep stacks(in theory), and archangels because you NEED to have a mana from something or you'll just oom in any poke wars even with blue.
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anivia can charge tears really easy because Q und R count as 2 spells.
so she will have high enough mana to build AA really soon.
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On February 03 2012 06:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Watching CLGeu is always a pleasure. They don't pull "flashy" stuff like M5 (referring to M5 counterjungling and invades) but CLGeu is always on the same page and analyzing their decisions midgame.
Wish more teams have that level of professionalism.
Funniest part is they're the most recent team XD
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Froggen goes Manamune Leviathan Sword of The Occult Mejais (soloq ofc)on Anivia and still goes legendary. He does any build and still wins, his anivia is just retardedly broken.
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On February 03 2012 06:42 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 06:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Watching CLGeu is always a pleasure. They don't pull "flashy" stuff like M5 (referring to M5 counterjungling and invades) but CLGeu is always on the same page and analyzing their decisions midgame.
Wish more teams have that level of professionalism. Funniest part is they're the most recent team XD
i kno rite.
I used to not like Wickd at all. He's become surprisingly bearable this last month though...
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On February 03 2012 06:32 Phrost wrote:
I've played 3 games now as Ziggs and is it just me or is he pretty obnoxiously good for a new champion?
Sejuani had some nice slows and junk but she did little damage. Ziggs has a nice amount of zone control and damage to punish basically anyone trying to kill him.
I tried to sift through some pages of posts but I couldn't find the "played 20 games with ziggs, he is good/bad" posts
he's countered by hard engage, really strong poke though. With the new buff of ashe, id say ashe is a good pick in response to ziggs. He is absurdly useless at close range though, really no point to gank for a zigg.
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On February 03 2012 06:43 dooraven wrote:
Froggen goes Manamune Leviathan Sword of The Occult Mejais (soloq ofc)on Anivia and still goes legendary. He does any build and still wins, his anivia is just retardedly broken.
This.
Froggen's Anivia's simply unparalleled. He can pull off shit like Mog's Mejai because of his finesse. I imagine most other players trying to imitate that build would just end up as a tanky bird with shit damage late game. Mejai's only worth it if you can secure kills. Froggen does Q stuns in his sleep. Even if you try to dodge his Q, he'll wall you to put you in your place.
wtf
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On February 03 2012 06:43 Brees wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 06:32 Phrost wrote:
I've played 3 games now as Ziggs and is it just me or is he pretty obnoxiously good for a new champion?
Sejuani had some nice slows and junk but she did little damage. Ziggs has a nice amount of zone control and damage to punish basically anyone trying to kill him.
I tried to sift through some pages of posts but I couldn't find the "played 20 games with ziggs, he is good/bad" posts he's countered by hard engage, really strong poke though. With the new buff of ashe, id say ashe is a good pick in response to ziggs. He is absurdly useless at close range though, really no point to gank for a zigg.
I really like his ability to pretty safely and easily farm wraiths. If you drop mines followed by bomb you kill all of the little ones and the leashed big one dies to more mines.
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I watched that CLG.eu game today from Wikds stream. I was really, really impressed with them as a team. They were always on the same page for objectives and just completely smashed aAa, a team that I thought was pretty strong.
Froggen is scary good with Anivia. He was nailing GP with snowballs and Icepicks in the bushes with no vision. Scary good.
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On February 03 2012 06:43 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 06:42 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 03 2012 06:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Watching CLGeu is always a pleasure. They don't pull "flashy" stuff like M5 (referring to M5 counterjungling and invades) but CLGeu is always on the same page and analyzing their decisions midgame.
Wish more teams have that level of professionalism. Funniest part is they're the most recent team XD i kno rite. I used to not like Wickd at all. He's become surprisingly bearable this last month though...
Wickd's finally doing what he's wanted to for more than a year, and the rest of CLG.eu are all very happy with their current lineup. I'm really not surprised at all that he's more bearable, because he's finally part of an organization he wanted to be part of.
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Yeah I used to hate watching wickd when he was part of SK, but ever since he left and made his own team watching him and all the other now-CLG.eu guys has been a great pleasure and they've replaced Fnatic as my favorite eu team.
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On February 03 2012 06:40 LaNague wrote:
anivia can charge tears really easy because Q und R count as 2 spells.
so she will have high enough mana to build AA really soon.
In practice, Q doesn't actually charge Tear twice even though it counts as 2 spell casts, because charging Tear has a 3 second internal cooldown, and it takes less than 3 seconds for the Q projectile to reach max range.
R only charges Tear twice if you leave it on for longer than 3 seconds.
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On February 03 2012 07:02 phyvo wrote:
Yeah I used to hate watching wickd when he was part of SK, but ever since he left and made his own team watching him and all the other now-CLG.eu guys has been a great pleasure and they've replaced Fnatic as my favorite eu team.
real bandwagon!
lol j/k. But Fnatic, wow. What a slump...
Not surprising CLGeu picking up a ton of fans in January.
Edit: Still watching CLGeu vs aAa. Everyone one of CLGeu's players gets constructive criticism from the rest of the team about their gameplay. e.g. "Snoopeh, don't Flash for an insecure kill at tower, just let them back", etc
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On February 03 2012 07:02 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 06:40 LaNague wrote:
anivia can charge tears really easy because Q und R count as 2 spells.
so she will have high enough mana to build AA really soon. In practice, Q doesn't actually charge Tear twice even though it counts as 2 spell casts, because charging Tear has a 3 second internal cooldown, and it takes less than 3 seconds for the Q projectile to reach max range. R only charges Tear twice if you leave it on for longer than 3 seconds.
In my experience it's twice per 6 seconds which is the internal cooldown. I could be mistaken but I think that's how it worked last time I tried.
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On February 03 2012 07:06 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 07:02 TheYango wrote:On February 03 2012 06:40 LaNague wrote:
anivia can charge tears really easy because Q und R count as 2 spells.
so she will have high enough mana to build AA really soon. In practice, Q doesn't actually charge Tear twice even though it counts as 2 spell casts, because charging Tear has a 3 second internal cooldown, and it takes less than 3 seconds for the Q projectile to reach max range. R only charges Tear twice if you leave it on for longer than 3 seconds. In my experience it's twice per 6 seconds which is the internal cooldown. I could be mistaken but I think that's how it worked last time I tried.
I'm pretty sure this is correct
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Is it me, or Jax's E doesn't dodge all attacks? I'm getting killed through it several times by a Xin with his knock-up activated.
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On February 03 2012 07:04 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 07:02 phyvo wrote:
Yeah I used to hate watching wickd when he was part of SK, but ever since he left and made his own team watching him and all the other now-CLG.eu guys has been a great pleasure and they've replaced Fnatic as my favorite eu team. real bandwagon! lol j/k. But Fnatic, wow. What a slump... Not surprising CLGeu picking up a ton of fans in January. Edit: Still watching CLGeu vs aAa. Everyone one of CLGeu's players gets constructive criticism from the rest of the team about their gameplay. e.g. "Snoopeh, don't Flash for an insecure kill at tower, just let them back", etc
Yeah the slump sucked, though I've been following CLGeu since the split.
If it makes me any less bandwagon-y on the US side I root for Epik, <3 DanD, Nhat, and Dyrus toooo much. I liked Stork too back in the BW days before he finally nabbed a gold.
edit: Jax E might behave like Teemo blind. If you blind a Xin he'll still knock you up though I'm not sure he'll do damage.
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So, more theorycraft time, courtesy of Smash and me:
What do you guys think are the Top 3 APs that are underplayed at a tournament level? :O :O :O
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On February 03 2012 06:43 Brees wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 06:32 Phrost wrote:
I've played 3 games now as Ziggs and is it just me or is he pretty obnoxiously good for a new champion?
Sejuani had some nice slows and junk but she did little damage. Ziggs has a nice amount of zone control and damage to punish basically anyone trying to kill him.
I tried to sift through some pages of posts but I couldn't find the "played 20 games with ziggs, he is good/bad" posts he's countered by hard engage, really strong poke though. With the new buff of ashe, id say ashe is a good pick in response to ziggs. He is absurdly useless at close range though, really no point to gank for a zigg.
tbh i think xin is prolly a stronger counterpick as well. Any super strong gap closer can wreck ziggs.
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On February 03 2012 07:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
So, more theorycraft time, courtesy of Smash and me:
What do you guys think are the Top 3 APs that are underplayed at a tournament level? :O :O :O
Xerath, Orianna, Zilean.
It's been a VERY long time since I've seen a team pick Zilean.
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