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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 24 2012 15:12 GMT
#1921
On January 25 2012 00:08 daemir wrote:
Oddone having a lil too big expectations out of these lvl 5 games and the people he gets to play with :p

and now getting pwned by them, huehuehue

Is he really level 5? Why are there even junglers? And he's complaining about no wards LOL
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 15:13:34
January 24 2012 15:12 GMT
#1922
On January 25 2012 00:02 Brockster wrote:
I recently brought some friends to LoL, they want to level up/solo-q later. They have a Dota-background and picking the game rather fast up.
Which leads me to my question: Which champs would you consider a must-have for sucessful low-elo solo carrying for each role?
I did it myself with Udyr, Ryze, Vayne, Sivir and Sora, Ali and didnt feel too lackluster. They think about buying some RP for 6-7 champs and save their IP for tier3 runes.


Must-have:
All the 450 IP champs and Tristana (free via Facebook).

Tell them to play free heroes and potentially buy the ones they enjoy. That's all.

Champ picks don't matter too much at low elo, especially if you can expect to be better than the average beginner due to DotA experience. Strength of champs changes all the time with patches and metagame shifts. There is no point in suggesting specific champs.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 24 2012 15:12 GMT
#1923
On January 24 2012 23:35 ShoreT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 23:20 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:



On January 24 2012 23:10 phyvo wrote:
I think AD poppy with IEPDPDBT is the the future new old tryndamere melee carry.

I've been considering this, but poppy doesn't have the OP ad steroid or crit steroid that trondomere has.


But Poppy has the "youcan'tkillmeuntilIkillyourcarry" steroid, not to mention OP passive. The bigger issue is that laning would be very rough because Poppy has no sustain.


Toplane poppy starting with a Philo stone going AD carry with Trinity IE PD is not really new..
I used to play it a lot back a few month because people weren't so picky about toplane.

She basicly win the game no matter what sonce you have trinity ie et a bit of AS from zeal. And she run at like 600ms with W on. Ult the support and kill everyone during that. Way better than Tryn ult.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 15:16:44
January 24 2012 15:13 GMT
#1924
On January 25 2012 00:08 daemir wrote:
Oddone having a lil too big expectations out of these lvl 5 games and the people he gets to play with :p

and now getting pwned by them, huehuehue



lol, he should stop blaming his teammates, the other team has new players too, shouldbt be hard for a 2k guy to capitalize on it. But he is on a lvl 6 losing streak, EU smurfs too stronk


now he flames the lvl 6 sorka, so classy oO
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 15:15:15
January 24 2012 15:15 GMT
#1925
Sivir Champion Spotlight came out last night apparently:

"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 15:21:38
January 24 2012 15:17 GMT
#1926
Oh Oddone, he thinks he gonna have a painful week to level up that account ^_^

getting accs lvled should be np for regi and rainman, solo lanes too stronk to carry. LB and say Trynd faceroll to 30


his gameplan for this game was: coz jungling without masteries/runes is pointless, take a solo lane to carry, but dunno why he ended up on sivir, anyway then he changed it to "just cs better, don't even need to be aggressive"

proceeds to get out CSed and killed by the enemy bot lane :-D tournament players too weak for low level accs!

It's like Saint and some others like HSGG complain that Solo Q much harder than real team games, low level acc play even harder than solo Q if you're tryharding there :D
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 15:28:30
January 24 2012 15:18 GMT
#1927
On January 25 2012 00:12 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 00:02 Brockster wrote:
I recently brought some friends to LoL, they want to level up/solo-q later. They have a Dota-background and picking the game rather fast up.
Which leads me to my question: Which champs would you consider a must-have for sucessful low-elo solo carrying for each role?
I did it myself with Udyr, Ryze, Vayne, Sivir and Sora, Ali and didnt feel too lackluster. They think about buying some RP for 6-7 champs and save their IP for tier3 runes.


Must-have:
All the 450 IP champs and Tristana (free via Facebook).

Tell them to play free heroes and potentially buy the ones they enjoy. That's all.

Champ picks don't matter too much at low elo, especially if you can expect to be better than the average beginner due to DotA experience. Strength of champs changes all the time with patches and metagame shifts. There is no point in suggesting specific champs.

Alistar is also free from Youtube I think.

You don't even need specific roles or to follow the meta at that level. If they have a jungler just go 5 man gank them at level 1 since no one bothers to protect.

On January 25 2012 00:17 daemir wrote:
his gameplan for this game was: coz jungling without masteries/runes is pointless, take a solo lane to carry, but dunno why he ended up on sivir, anyway then he changed it to "just cs better, don't even need to be aggressive"

It's like Saint and some others like HSGG complain that Solo Q much harder than real team games, low level acc play even harder than solo Q if you're tryharding there :D

Best way to carry in low level game: pick someone with CC, lane until you get a wriggles, take all the buffs on the map and gank the crap out of every other lane. Trying to outCS the other lane is like the worst strategy lol

And low level duo queue is even worse, you end up against level 30 teams with level 10 teammates.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 15:28:07
January 24 2012 15:27 GMT
#1928
oops
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 24 2012 15:46 GMT
#1929
Xpecial joins the fun, gets owned midlane by GP.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 24 2012 15:48 GMT
#1930
OddOne almost says "Empire" upon getting his ult, remembers what happened in Kiev and catches himself. Bad memories lol
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 15:49:24
January 24 2012 15:48 GMT
#1931
On January 25 2012 00:12 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 00:02 Brockster wrote:
I recently brought some friends to LoL, they want to level up/solo-q later. They have a Dota-background and picking the game rather fast up.
Which leads me to my question: Which champs would you consider a must-have for sucessful low-elo solo carrying for each role?
I did it myself with Udyr, Ryze, Vayne, Sivir and Sora, Ali and didnt feel too lackluster. They think about buying some RP for 6-7 champs and save their IP for tier3 runes.


Must-have:
All the 450 IP champs and Tristana (free via Facebook).

Tell them to play free heroes and potentially buy the ones they enjoy. That's all.

Champ picks don't matter too much at low elo, especially if you can expect to be better than the average beginner due to DotA experience. Strength of champs changes all the time with patches and metagame shifts. There is no point in suggesting specific champs.

You alos get free alistar via youtube so don't forget that (also there was alienware giveaway with nightmaer cho like 2 years ago but im pretty sure it's no longer available)

WHoops didn't refresh the browser, got ninja'd 20 mins ago
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 15:55:42
January 24 2012 15:50 GMT
#1932
Haha watching oddone xpecial duo q this low level stuff and get owned is so hilarious.

Chaox enters the ring instead of oddbro since odd has to go somewhere, let's see the long time rank1 US ladder show how to feed at low level :d and regi stands in for xpecial
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 24 2012 15:56 GMT
#1933
ahaha tag team smurfing.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 24 2012 15:56 GMT
#1934
I tuned in to TOO's stream. there's a smurf on his camera lol
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
January 24 2012 16:02 GMT
#1935
Now that TSM is making it fashionable I was thinking about making a thread about how to carry really low level games using techniques that don't work at higher levels of play. Sneaky solo barons or lane freezing, that kind of thing... It would be very easy to say which champs are easier to do well with in these games because of how they work--for instance singed is one of the best. You farm all the lanes and can overextend like crazy because they can never kill you, this way none of your team can take the farm and you get absurdly rich very quickly. Teleport in to teamfights when your team gets stuck out of position, and you have so many items you can never die. Of course you can just play shyvanna or phoenix udyr and clear both jungles. The idea of rushing wriggles on everyone to get every buff is another good one I hadn't really thought of.

Going tryhard against a bunch of real noobs (like level 15 or whatever) actually requires more creative thought than you use in a real game. One thing I started doing was playing assassins so even if your team is too bad to win teamfights you just ward their entire side of the map and wait around to pick them off. Don't ever reveal yourself or cs after 20 minutes and they will just forget you exist. It's just like playing metal gear solid

Would there be interest in this kind of thread? Maybe someone else can make the op, I don't know what would go in it; I just know what I would post in it. the only problem is that now that TL is pretty popular it might make some people that are not smurfing try these techniques in order to win without actually being good. maybe it could be called something inconspicuous like "oddone memorial smurfing thread"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17265 Posts
January 24 2012 16:10 GMT
#1936
nah, you just want lane dominators and snowball champs. Cass is good, Akali, etc. Champs that need to AFK farm for awhile are gonna be bad. You can often get really early dragons for free. I think I used to do that all the time when I'd play fiddle or WW (at like level 4-5), since nobody wards. But yeah, take mid and just farm the other guy then go gank a sidelane.
twitch.tv/cratonz
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 16:18:20
January 24 2012 16:12 GMT
#1937
I dunno, smurfing is pretty easy. Just gank the crap out of people. No one buys wards, and even if they call mia no one pays attention. And build survivability so you can 1v5, since everyone goes full glass cannon at that level, with the occasional full tank Mordekaiser or something.

also don't take teleport to help you team, take teleport so you can backdoor like hell. if they spot you pushing top while they're sieging mid, they won't know to fight 5v4 but usually split up and chase you.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 24 2012 16:14 GMT
#1938
TPing into the fights is really iffy, you rely on having your minions around the team fight because I can guarantee no one at that level is gonna carry wards or know to place one down for your TP :p

assassins is a good idea. Akali, talon, hard scaling melees like trynd will quickly get out of control if you invest in a few wards to make sure you don't go 1v5.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 24 2012 16:20 GMT
#1939
"Without runes I can't do anything... unless I levelled this (points at Nunu's Q) huehuehue. No one's dumb enough to do that. ...maybe I should actually." -TOO
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 24 2012 16:22 GMT
#1940
On January 25 2012 01:20 mordek wrote:
"Without runes I can't do anything... unless I levelled this (points at Nunu's Q) huehuehue. No one's dumb enough to do that. ...maybe I should actually." -TOO

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