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Use the Champion threads whenever appropriate.
Don't use General Discussion simply out of ease.
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If you want to whine about server lag, use the QQ thread. We all suffer alike when Riot servers kaput. No need to make a post about it in GD.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 19:03:06
January 26 2012 19:02 GMT
#2541
On January 27 2012 03:48 NotSorry wrote:
queue dodging penalty is too high to work like folding, if you dodged all the shit teams you would be at zero elo even if you won ever game you played out

It just means you have to have a higher threshold for when you dodge. The option's always there.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 19:11:34
January 26 2012 19:07 GMT
#2542
On January 27 2012 03:37 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 03:30 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 27 2012 03:25 wussleeQ wrote:
On January 27 2012 03:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 27 2012 03:12 Mondeezy wrote:
On January 25 2012 06:32 jacosajh wrote:
On January 25 2012 06:27 Shiv. wrote:
What strikes me as odd is that they are investing resources into their bot AI while stuff like replays still hasn't been released yet.


I agree. They did say that the majority of players who play often play against bots every week though. This is where stats might be extremely deceptive? I go into bots every now and then to try new jungle routes and new champions. I'm sure many do too?

But I guess, like any company, they are in a position where they have to allocate resources to pleasing current customers or trying to get more customers.

I would, however, like to see more features implemented like replays (where you can rewind) and better spectating (more than 2 and spectate while matchmaking). I don't want Magma Chamber, moar champions, nerfs/buffs -_-

We might never see replays because of difficulty implementing with the game engine though. And spectating options are probably going to be a server nightmare. AFAIK, Riot only has one US server location on the west coast, which is why us east coast brethren have like ~80 ping minimum.


Where are you at on the West Coast? I normally get 15 ping and my friend gets about 30(we live 40mins apart, he's in LA).

Psh, I get average 9ping, and if I'm lucky I hit 8 ping. University internet ftw!

I'm going to take a guess and say UCI?
UCR.

DAMN lol. UCR was my original answer but i edited it >_>. Man, on the topic of low pings, it's so hard to change from 20ish to like 100. I know people who play at higher pings get used to it but just slight changes like these piss me off so badly... I don't know how loco does it with like 180-200 all the time while still being one of the best lol.


I currently have a evdo connection at home since I didn't consider online gaming when we got that connection. So I am used to playing at like 350ms on EUNE while I get 200ms at SEA. Adjusting to to changes in latency is tougher than actually consistently playing at a slightly higher value. And its more difficult to adjust when you go from 20 to 100 rather than when you go to 250 if you already have 200.

I actually found it tough to play on sea initially since I was used to a way higher latency lol. Well, I'll get an adsl connection in a few months (after my exams) and finally will start playing ranked.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 19:14:10
January 26 2012 19:12 GMT
#2543
On January 27 2012 03:48 NotSorry wrote:
queue dodging penalty is too high to work like folding, if you dodged all the shit teams you would be at zero elo even if you won ever game you played out


Think of it as Poker with an ante.

You realize that your opponent teams are just as likely to be bad as your own, assuming you are just an average team player?

If you could do what you suggested, you'd win no matter how shitty you are since you can just wait for teams that seem very strong and by all odds the opponent's team will lose even 5v4 (if you're the only one using this queue-dodging strategy).

Your proposal, the whole point of ELO is that you're matched up with people within your range, and in solo queue this unfortunately means that there'll often be teams where people don't mesh well as a team, regardless of how well they are individually. But that applies to the opponent's team just as much as to yours; except that you have some control over how well your team plays together.
Not much, but some -- you have an active role in either sowing discord in the team (whining, raging at people who just made unintentional mistakes, etc.) or trying to bring it together (most easily by simply not reinforcing any negative/destructive bickering that is going on). Some teams are doomed from the start, but that's true for your opponents as much as for you.

What you want is some kind of special treatment where you basically get to choose your allies. That's what ranked teams are for, not solo queue. (As someone who just start playing ranked, I am completely aware of how frustrating some games can be, but I've found that getting angry over it only makes it worse for everyone involved, even if that is the easiest way to react.)
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 19:18:09
January 26 2012 19:17 GMT
#2544
there should be a votekick system though

edit: in champ select that is.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 26 2012 19:23 GMT
#2545
I was about to post "Reginald going to show how he carries with AP trist now!!

Then he at 150 hp dives a full hp ashe into tower range and dies instantly o_O Regi regi regi
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 19:45:15
January 26 2012 19:26 GMT
#2546
On January 27 2012 04:17 clickrush wrote:
there should be a votekick system though

edit: in champ select that is.

Have fun getting abused by premades who don't get the roles they wished for :/


Chaox' thoughts on 3 Doran's+Wriggle's, IEM Kiev, the snowball meta and the state of League of Legends as a game in general.

I like a lot of the stuff he says, especially the comparison of the current state of the game with early SC:BW.
currently rooting for myself.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 26 2012 19:31 GMT
#2547
Majority rules meta stays. You picked Karma, you get kicked, it's karma huehuehue.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
January 26 2012 19:42 GMT
#2548
On January 27 2012 03:48 NotSorry wrote:
queue dodging penalty is too high to work like folding, if you dodged all the shit teams you would be at zero elo even if you won ever game you played out


if you folded everything that wasn't pocket queens or better you would lose all your money too.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
January 26 2012 19:43 GMT
#2549
Lol at a random minion coming out of the jungle in the CLG.eu vs M5 scrim.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 19:57:07
January 26 2012 19:50 GMT
#2550
Nvm, internet too shit to stream
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 26 2012 19:58 GMT
#2551
On January 27 2012 04:42 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 03:48 NotSorry wrote:
queue dodging penalty is too high to work like folding, if you dodged all the shit teams you would be at zero elo even if you won ever game you played out


if you folded everything that wasn't pocket queens or better you would lose all your money too.

Even in the loosest of strats you only play like 30% of your hands, so that's still a bad comparison, unless you want to compare it to a game where you're on the bubble with a stack of 5000 when blinds are 2000/1000 and second lowest stack is 50000
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
January 26 2012 20:04 GMT
#2552
On January 27 2012 04:58 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 04:42 jadoth wrote:
On January 27 2012 03:48 NotSorry wrote:
queue dodging penalty is too high to work like folding, if you dodged all the shit teams you would be at zero elo even if you won ever game you played out


if you folded everything that wasn't pocket queens or better you would lose all your money too.

Even in the loosest of strats you only play like 30% of your hands, so that's still a bad comparison, unless you want to compare it to a game where you're on the bubble with a stack of 5000 when blinds are 2000/1000 and second lowest stack is 50000

Realistically, this is more like a case of Heads Up when you and the opponent are both equally likely to be down. And in that case, you play almost any two cards. Or in this case...4?
There is but one truth.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 20:07:51
January 26 2012 20:05 GMT
#2553
WP by both teams, although TS dying just before the dragon fight was really unfortunate for CLG eu, amazing baron steal by snoopeh but just a bit too much to over come the advantage M5 had.
Go go Alliance.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1964 Posts
January 26 2012 20:18 GMT
#2554
The talk after the match beetween CLG.EU and M5 was so funny. I mean, first of all, they are actually friendly to each other? WHY? I am so confused! Why aren't they childish egomaniacs? Then, they actually analyze their mistakes and wicked playing his one biggest mistake ever 4 times just to show how he messed up... Absolutely golden :D So much better then watching Reginald before, insulting his team all the time.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 26 2012 20:29 GMT
#2555
m5 going up against SK-gaming next,

http://www.own3d.tv/live/41747/M5_Genja
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 26 2012 20:29 GMT
#2556
This isn't the first time they've had big issues with TS dying mid game, almost becoming a common problem for them why do they still use it?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 26 2012 20:33 GMT
#2557
This the first time that actually impacted a game I think, they'll probably change to a different server soon.
Go go Alliance.
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
January 26 2012 20:35 GMT
#2558
On January 27 2012 03:28 Lylat wrote:
Two of the best EU teams playing against each other (CLG.eu vs M5) on Wickd stream : 800 viewers
Reginald playing normal games ; 7k viewers.
Wtf ?


How about you link it? I always try to find good games but always end up watching some games where 'pros' lose and troll.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 20:46:42
January 26 2012 20:45 GMT
#2559
On January 27 2012 05:18 Broetchenholer wrote:
The talk after the match beetween CLG.EU and M5 was so funny. I mean, first of all, they are actually friendly to each other? WHY? I am so confused! Why aren't they childish egomaniacs? Then, they actually analyze their mistakes and wicked playing his one biggest mistake ever 4 times just to show how he messed up... Absolutely golden :D So much better then watching Reginald before, insulting his team all the time.

Yeah, they freely call out mistakes without getting offended and trying to place blame. It's a much different attitude from the US teams where even when people admit they made a mistake they're still trying to save their ego.

actually a lot of US players don't do this either but it's rare to see a whole team like that.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 20:50:06
January 26 2012 20:46 GMT
#2560
On January 27 2012 05:35 Mondieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 03:28 Lylat wrote:
Two of the best EU teams playing against each other (CLG.eu vs M5) on Wickd stream : 800 viewers
Reginald playing normal games ; 7k viewers.
Wtf ?


How about you link it? I always try to find good games but always end up watching some games where 'pros' lose and troll.


These streams are almost always listed on the major team sites (CLG, TSM).

From there you might guess that the players tagged as "CLG <Playername>" are probably playing, or maybe that
CLG.eu casters would likely be casting the scrim...
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