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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 26 2012 20:48 GMT
#2561
On January 27 2012 05:45 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 05:18 Broetchenholer wrote:
The talk after the match beetween CLG.EU and M5 was so funny. I mean, first of all, they are actually friendly to each other? WHY? I am so confused! Why aren't they childish egomaniacs? Then, they actually analyze their mistakes and wicked playing his one biggest mistake ever 4 times just to show how he messed up... Absolutely golden :D So much better then watching Reginald before, insulting his team all the time.

Yeah, they freely call out mistakes without getting offended and trying to place blame. It's a much different attitude from the US teams where even when people admit they made a mistake they're still trying to save their ego.

actually a lot of US players don't do this either but it's rare to see a whole team like that.


US players admit mistakes then follow it with an attempted justification argument
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 26 2012 20:53 GMT
#2562
first time playing ranked in 3 weeks... go 11-1 carried feeder team... people are a lot worse than i remember. only death because i ran into a 4v1 lol
BW -> League -> CSGO
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 26 2012 20:54 GMT
#2563
On January 27 2012 05:45 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 05:18 Broetchenholer wrote:
The talk after the match beetween CLG.EU and M5 was so funny. I mean, first of all, they are actually friendly to each other? WHY? I am so confused! Why aren't they childish egomaniacs? Then, they actually analyze their mistakes and wicked playing his one biggest mistake ever 4 times just to show how he messed up... Absolutely golden :D So much better then watching Reginald before, insulting his team all the time.

Yeah, they freely call out mistakes without getting offended and trying to place blame. It's a much different attitude from the US teams where even when people admit they made a mistake they're still trying to save their ego.

actually a lot of US players don't do this either but it's rare to see a whole team like that.

Well I like how the Koreans handle the issue as well. According to Locodoco on SOTL their teams treats the player that messed up like shit and makes them feel "inhuman" shaming them so they never repeat the mistake again. Even harsher than the NA arguments from the despcription but "baylife" or "drop it" lets the issue go away. Although TSM is taking steps to improve and do admit their weakness and CLG NA did say they discussed their loss in Korea at length before the stream fighting.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
January 26 2012 21:00 GMT
#2564
That's a pretty shitty way to handle something.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 21:06:57
January 26 2012 21:04 GMT
#2565
Yeah, what the heck? Besides being bad for team unity, it seems like that would just encourage players to play very cautiously rather than aggressively/taking reasonable risks if they also have to worry about their team treating them like that afterwards.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 21:11:51
January 26 2012 21:09 GMT
#2566
Well I'm not sure how serious they actually take it, maybe Loco could clarify. Obviously if it was literal and the person took it too harshley they wouldn't be able to stay together as a team. EU calm discussion. NA take criticism as personal attack. Korean culture making them more willing to accept critique? Loco said during a previous interview his team would always watch their replays after to look at their mistakes so they will never repeat that mistake ever again. Which is pretty much the same explanation he gave for the "inhuman" treatment.
requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 21:10:38
January 26 2012 21:09 GMT
#2567
make mistake-->only rice and kimchi for team lunch next day
make big prayzz-->prime kalbi and free soju for the week

problem solved
...
requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 21:10:28
January 26 2012 21:10 GMT
#2568
ah shit did quote instead of edit. i'm bad
...
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 26 2012 21:11 GMT
#2569
very good match beetween M5 and SK
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 26 2012 21:22 GMT
#2570
On January 27 2012 06:00 Craton wrote:
That's a pretty shitty way to handle something.


Tiger Mother debate, LoL edition.

More seriously, it's hard to view that sort of system objectively as we have our own cultural lenses and motivations. I've known people for whom that kind of system would work extremely well, and people for whom it would be terrible. It's not clear cut.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Zelc
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
129 Posts
January 26 2012 21:32 GMT
#2571
On January 27 2012 06:11 trollbone wrote:
very good match beetween M5 and SK

Wow, that TF Lichbane proc taking off 1/3 of the nexus turret's health there at the end of the game.
requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
January 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#2572
On January 27 2012 06:22 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 06:00 Craton wrote:
That's a pretty shitty way to handle something.


Tiger Mother debate, LoL edition.

More seriously, it's hard to view that sort of system objectively as we have our own cultural lenses and motivations. I've known people for whom that kind of system would work extremely well, and people for whom it would be terrible. It's not clear cut.


i mean it's like the more mean spirited former coaching style for the 49ers versus this year's successful encouraging and positive atmosphere

i'm sure both methods work given the right set of circumstances
...
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 26 2012 21:36 GMT
#2573
On January 27 2012 06:32 Zelc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 06:11 trollbone wrote:
very good match beetween M5 and SK

Wow, that TF Lichbane proc taking off 1/3 of the nexus turret's health there at the end of the game.


this game showed us that this is not a snowball game like everyone is saying, and win lane doesnt equal win game.
In the early game SK were so much ahead in top and bot and equal in mid and they couldnt simply push this advantages in teamfight in the middle game, after a lot of back in forth there was no one clearly ahead.

Good game and it shows us the true reason why IEM was a snowball fest, TSM and M5 particularly were so much superior.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 21:44:51
January 26 2012 21:39 GMT
#2574
Fnatic midgame ramblins pretty entertaining plus rage free, spiced with a bit of whining

haha fight at fnatic blue, 4 of them die, then at the aftermath shushei drops a diamond: "I got the blue, somehow"

"well then it was all worth it!"
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 26 2012 21:49 GMT
#2575
As some people have guessed the punishment that loco mentioned is typical of korean culture. Didnt watch the sotl myself but it sounds a lot harsher to western ears im sure
Hey! Listen!
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 26 2012 21:55 GMT
#2576
M5 vs SK game 2

Volibear top for SK !
Allistar jungle for M5 !
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:24:55
January 26 2012 21:55 GMT
#2577
What happened to loco's team for a pu

EDIT: didn't see BlackMagister's post.
Stuck.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 26 2012 21:55 GMT
#2578
On January 27 2012 06:36 trollbone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 06:32 Zelc wrote:
On January 27 2012 06:11 trollbone wrote:
very good match beetween M5 and SK

Wow, that TF Lichbane proc taking off 1/3 of the nexus turret's health there at the end of the game.


this game showed us that this is not a snowball game like everyone is saying, and win lane doesnt equal win game.
In the early game SK were so much ahead in top and bot and equal in mid and they couldnt simply push this advantages in teamfight in the middle game, after a lot of back in forth there was no one clearly ahead.

Good game and it shows us the true reason why IEM was a snowball fest, TSM and M5 particularly were so much superior.

Ya I mean kiev basically had 2 A tier teams and the rest were B and below. And even the games in the finals were characterized by REALLY shitty decision making by both teams, not straight snowballs. (G2 and G3 were over by the 2 minute mark (well champ select at game 3) for reasons OTHER than gameplay snowball).
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:01:21
January 26 2012 21:55 GMT
#2579
What happened to the good ol, you make a mistake, we kick you off team and replace you with the 10000000 other koreans out there who can click as well as you can and we can pay him less than we pay you. ^_^
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 26 2012 21:56 GMT
#2580
On January 27 2012 06:55 trollbone wrote:
M5 vs SK game 2

Volibear top for SK !
Allistar jungle for M5 !


Alistar jungle is pretty common, Volibear top is interesting though.
Go go Alliance.
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