• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:45
CEST 02:45
KST 09:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Working 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 Ladder Bot on ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10912 users

[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 115

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 113 114 115 116 117 193 Next
Public Service Announcement
Use the Champion threads whenever appropriate.
Don't use General Discussion simply out of ease.
=====
If you want to whine about server lag, use the QQ thread. We all suffer alike when Riot servers kaput. No need to make a post about it in GD.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
January 25 2012 22:16 GMT
#2281
Meanwhile Doublelift is blaming people for getting dived from ridiculous angles, and also has near perfect farm on Nasus. Predict him beasting this soon.
3.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 22:19:14
January 25 2012 22:19 GMT
#2282
Lol Doublelift actually TP's and carries teamfight.
derp
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 22:30:11
January 25 2012 22:29 GMT
#2283
Can someone remind me what Riot's reasoning was for reducing the gold value on kill streaks, and increasing the gold dropoff on death streaks?
Moderator
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
January 25 2012 22:31 GMT
#2284
Seems to be something wrong with chat. Wont connect even when I relog
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 25 2012 22:33 GMT
#2285
On January 26 2012 07:29 TheYango wrote:
Can someone remind me what Riot's reasoning was for reducing the gold value on kill streaks, and increasing the gold dropoff on death streaks?

Makes game real boring cuz you stop forcing fights because you are scared of dying and feeding 1k gold. Reward wasnt worth the risk.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 25 2012 22:38 GMT
#2286
What's a good strategy to employ against vastly superior players? I'm playing in this IvyLoL tournament with some university buddies and the first team we're playing has a 2300 elo player. o.O
I am the Town Medic.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 22:39:26
January 25 2012 22:38 GMT
#2287
doublelift randoming corki
yeah right.. ~~

triple ad team
And all is illuminated.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 25 2012 22:39 GMT
#2288
haha, DL and SV arguing about ezreal and corki pregame, then both hard random and DL gets corki, SV gets ezreal >_>
karma is a bitch
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 25 2012 22:39 GMT
#2289
On January 26 2012 07:38 Alzadar wrote:
What's a good strategy to employ against vastly superior players? I'm playing in this IvyLoL tournament with some university buddies and the first team we're playing has a 2300 elo player. o.O

if AHGL has taught me anything, you're better off trying to ban the weaker players on that team out of the game than banning their top player out :p. just seems like a waste of bans every time when the opposing team spends multiple bans and sometimes their FP trying to knock me out of the games.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
January 25 2012 22:41 GMT
#2290
On January 26 2012 07:38 Alzadar wrote:
What's a good strategy to employ against vastly superior players? I'm playing in this IvyLoL tournament with some university buddies and the first team we're playing has a 2300 elo player. o.O


If you lane against him, safe/counter pick and play an extremely safe farm game. You won't win an aggression war so just hope to not feed him and that your team average skill is high enough to beat him late.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 25 2012 22:42 GMT
#2291
On January 26 2012 07:38 Alzadar wrote:
What's a good strategy to employ against vastly superior players? I'm playing in this IvyLoL tournament with some university buddies and the first team we're playing has a 2300 elo player. o.O

Is he the only one who's much, much better than you are? If so, I'd suggest finding out what he likes to play, look for a champ that can farm really really safely against most of his favourite champs and put your best player against this champ.

Either that, or you go for some cheesy strategy to catch them off guard and win asap.
currently rooting for myself.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 25 2012 22:44 GMT
#2292
Ahri came to lane with 82 armor what the flying fuck
And all is illuminated.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 25 2012 22:44 GMT
#2293
On January 26 2012 07:39 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 07:38 Alzadar wrote:
What's a good strategy to employ against vastly superior players? I'm playing in this IvyLoL tournament with some university buddies and the first team we're playing has a 2300 elo player. o.O

if AHGL has taught me anything, you're better off trying to ban the weaker players on that team out of the game than banning their top player out :p. just seems like a waste of bans every time when the opposing team spends multiple bans and sometimes their FP trying to knock me out of the games.

Speaking of which, when is your next game due? The schedule on the official site isn't updated for next week yet. Also, can we expect Mantheon in case they don't ban you out and/or pick Malphite?
currently rooting for myself.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
January 25 2012 22:45 GMT
#2294
I kinda agree with what DL said about Ezreal. Imagine Ezreal with IE, PD, LW, and with his W, it would just demolish enemies with his Qs and Autoattacks. If his Qs crit, insane dmg. But your need for mana, and the effect of 150% dmg on next physical attack is a must on ezreal (dunno how he is played in China)


End my suffering
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 25 2012 22:47 GMT
#2295
Ez's Q can't crit..
And all is illuminated.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 25 2012 22:48 GMT
#2296
On January 26 2012 07:41 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 07:38 Alzadar wrote:
What's a good strategy to employ against vastly superior players? I'm playing in this IvyLoL tournament with some university buddies and the first team we're playing has a 2300 elo player. o.O


If you lane against him, safe/counter pick and play an extremely safe farm game. You won't win an aggression war so just hope to not feed him and that your team average skill is high enough to beat him late.

That won't necessarily help you either. Chances are the 2300 elo player is farming way better than your team and just overwhelms you through his item advantage.

Here's what I would try to do:
Put your best player against their worst and try get him fed. The player on your team who is against their best has to pick a safe setup that doesn't get him horribly outpushed either (or else their best player is allowed to gank). Keep their best players kinda busy while you pick on their worst players.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 25 2012 22:48 GMT
#2297
On January 26 2012 06:25 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 06:20 Promises wrote:
Ok, I need some advice. Just played Soraka-Cait vs Cho-ADSion (normal game/blind) and we got CRUSHED. It was simple enough; Sion moves in, I silence, he keeps moving, stuns either of us after the stun, cho lands his stun after and a silence after that+ignite, that's a kill. And that kept on going on ^^ How the hell do you deal with that?

It's basically the same as not getting stunned by Taric, just move back and kite. I think Taric's stun actually outranges Sion's so it's actually easier to play against a Sion than a Taric.


Wont it be ridiculously easy for them to push the AD off last hits tho? With a Vamp-Scept he shouldnt have that much trouble healing the few shots back up, and if he just moves forward a bit when his minions get low that's a row missed =/ Ah I guess it's very doable but it certainly isnt easy; a single stun landing meant an autodeath =/
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 25 2012 22:48 GMT
#2298
On January 26 2012 07:45 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
I kinda agree with what DL said about Ezreal. Imagine Ezreal with IE, PD, LW, and with his W, it would just demolish enemies with his Qs and Autoattacks. If his Qs crit, insane dmg. But your need for mana, and the effect of 150% dmg on next physical attack is a must on ezreal (dunno how he is played in China)



Champions I would rather have those items on than ezreal:

Graves, Corki, Vayne, Trist, Cait, Kog.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 25 2012 22:54 GMT
#2299
On January 26 2012 07:44 freelander wrote:
Ahri came to lane with 82 armor what the flying fuck


yeah wtf

Was that like all armor runes or something?
derp
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 25 2012 23:03 GMT
#2300
On January 26 2012 07:54 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 07:44 freelander wrote:
Ahri came to lane with 82 armor what the flying fuck


yeah wtf

Was that like all armor runes or something?


Armor runes are 40, Cloth is 18, Masteries are another 6, so you can get +64 armor base. Ahri has 14.5 armor base, so although there's no way she could have 82 armor at level 1, she would have 82 armor at level 2 exactly.

All Armor page 3stronk.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Prev 1 113 114 115 116 117 193 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Playoffs Round 1
CranKy Ducklings102
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 173
EnDerr 1
StarCraft: Brood War
sSak 55
910 44
Dota 2
PGG 104
League of Legends
Doublelift6676
JimRising 469
Other Games
summit1g9591
FrodaN2239
KnowMe179
Livibee167
Trikslyr151
ViBE90
SteadfastSC31
CosmosSc2 24
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2177
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 102
• mYiSmile144
• EnkiAlexander 37
• davetesta12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
GSL
10h 15m
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
14h 15m
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
18h 15m
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
23h 15m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
1d 10h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.