EPT[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 230
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Requizen
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On January 17 2012 01:59 LaNague wrote: ok, after 4 hours math lecture and the doodling that comes with it i asked myself: why in the hell do we still use a mouse and not some kind of gaming pen for like 3 times the accuracy and speed oO. also, inb4 someone else gets rich with my gaming pens. People have tried it, but it isn't really as accurate on the fly as you'd think, at least not without a lot of practice. I mean, I assume you're talking about having like, a Wacom tablet and just tapping to indicate the screen position, right? How often can you tap the correct position if you try 10 times? 100 times? Not to mention that you'd have to set up a new way of scrolling to the side and right/double clicking, scrollwheel, and that a mouse has room for more buttons (thumbs, pinky, middle finger). But if you can get over that (and it's not impossible), more power to you. I just know my college roommate who tried it (in WoW, though), couldn't get a hang of it after a week of trying. But, to each their own, maybe it'll become the new trackball. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On January 17 2012 01:43 mordek wrote: I always thought the scream was suppose to be that way. Never thought about it. Although casting it away from you is probably the worse/lazy option than walking and then casting it. I hate how it works for Annie and Cho. I know I am in range, but since I place my mouse pointer further away from my champ (increased accuracy compared to having the cursor close to your champ), Annie/Cho won't cast the damn spell until I bring the cursor closer... On January 17 2012 02:07 Requizen wrote: People have tried it, but it isn't really as accurate on the fly as you'd think, at least not without a lot of practice. I mean, I assume you're talking about having like, a Wacom tablet and just tapping to indicate the screen position, right? How often can you tap the correct position if you try 10 times? 100 times? Not to mention that you'd have to set up a new way of scrolling to the side and right/double clicking, scrollwheel, and that a mouse has room for more buttons (thumbs, pinky, middle finger). But if you can get over that (and it's not impossible), more power to you. I just know my college roommate who tried it (in WoW, though), couldn't get a hang of it after a week of trying. But, to each their own, maybe it'll become the new trackball. Afaik Tablets are considered superior to mouse for stuff like Osu! (rythm/accurracy game). So it's not unreasonable to try it for other games. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On January 17 2012 01:59 LaNague wrote: ok, after 4 hours math lecture and the doodling that comes with it i asked myself: why in the hell do we still use a mouse and not some kind of gaming pen for like 3 times the accuracy and speed oO. also, inb4 someone else gets rich with my gaming pens. you mean like touch screen? because touch screen technology is laggy and innacurate. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On January 17 2012 01:59 LaNague wrote: ok, after 4 hours math lecture and the doodling that comes with it i asked myself: why in the hell do we still use a mouse and not some kind of gaming pen for like 3 times the accuracy and speed oO. also, inb4 someone else gets rich with my gaming pens. if you're talking about a stylus, i hate those things, they're more prone to drive me nuts than to actually be helpful. edit: touchscreen tablets may be interesting tho. Especially if you consider how good they've gotten in the past year or so, a touchscreen for gaming isn't inconceivable in the near future. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 17 2012 01:59 LaNague wrote: ok, after 4 hours math lecture and the doodling that comes with it i asked myself: why in the hell do we still use a mouse and not some kind of gaming pen for like 3 times the accuracy and speed oO. also, inb4 someone else gets rich with my gaming pens. Because I'm left-handed but using the mouse with my right hand.  | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 17 2012 02:08 spinesheath wrote: I hate how it works for Annie and Cho. I know I am in range, but since I place my mouse pointer further away from my champ (increased accuracy compared to having the cursor close to your champ), Annie/Cho won't cast the damn spell until I bring the cursor closer... Afaik Tablets are considered superior to mouse for stuff like Osu! (rythm/accurracy game). So it's not unreasonable to try it for other games. Well, for rhythm games, you're just tapping in a general location, so being off by a bit is the difference between great and good. In, say, LoL, those few pixels mean you missed a CS, and in SC2, you just tried to focus an Archon instead of the Sentry. It's a good idea, and would be great if the technology was more advanced and we were more used to using it instead of being indoctrined with a mouse. | ||
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LaNague
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Two_DoWn
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 17 2012 02:50 Two_DoWn wrote: Well, I mean, sometimes the shit we have is just better even though you would think that something else would be optimal. I mean, just try to play a consul game without a controller or a fighting game without a pad. Oh man, don't bring up the controller/keyboard discussion though, there may be blood. + Show Spoiler + I like to use a controller on my FPS games. I'll be a social pariah forever. | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On January 17 2012 01:26 Two_DoWn wrote: We get a replay system and they cast shit and gain a following. The hints I have gotten from Riot indicate that the system they are shooting for is going to automatically keep/upload replays to the client so that you can search for people and get their replays. Then they can just cast those and whoever is good will gain a following. Not all that hard. Its a hell of a lot easier to find a good caster than it is to try to fix whatever the hell happened to the starcraft scene. Are there any hints on when replays will come? They didn't say anthing about replays when S2 came along (real dissapointing IMO) | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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Except maybe Osu on Lunatic songs. EDIT: On January 17 2012 03:02 Woony wrote: Are there any hints on when replays will come? They didn't say anthing about replays when S2 came along (real dissapointing IMO) Replays will come out + Show Spoiler + when they're done. :3 | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 17 2012 02:50 Two_DoWn wrote: Well, I mean, sometimes the shit we have is just better even though you would think that something else would be optimal. I mean, just try to play a consul game without a controller or a fighting game without a pad. Playing a fighting game with a standard gamepad is like playing starcraft2 with a gun controller. How can one finger (right thumb) be responsible for 4 inputs? Most of the standard user interfaces in our day and age are terrible, some people just got used to it, and different persons will like different hardware interfaces. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On January 17 2012 03:11 mr_tolkien wrote: Playing a fighting game with a standard gamepad is like playing starcraft2 with a gun controller. How can one finger (right thumb) be responsible for 4 inputs? it's called claw grip you use your fingers on the inputs instead of your thumb | ||
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mordek
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Mufaa
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On January 17 2012 03:03 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: I don't know too much about electronics, but my impression is that a resistive touchscreen would require too much force on each input to be practical (try cs-ing with that haha) and a capactive touchscreen would have too much delay inbetween inputs. It'd probably also be difficult getting used to right and leftclicking, especially if you spam a lot of clicks for whatever reason. With some better tech and some time to get used to it though, I don't think it's too far-fetched, but it's not something I would personally use. Except maybe Osu on Lunatic songs. EDIT: Replays will come out + Show Spoiler + when they're done. :3 I've played Rift, WoW, SC2(challenges) and LoL when bored during 3hr lecture with a wacom bamboo and it is capacitive. If you want to use it as a point and click style where you don't drag the cursor you run into precision issues if stuff is moving around due to how hard it is to judge the ratio of the screen resolution to the tablets usable area. If you take too long locating the pointer it's worse than using a mouse. If you hover it so you can see the mouse the entire time and drag it then you have issues where if you accidentally make contact you're left clicking for no reason or if it stays touching you right click in the wrong spot. I don't see it being worth it. | ||
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Shiv.
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I have looked over some past games and have come to realize I sacrifice too much farm for harassing my opponent and was thinking about champs who either excell well at farming while harassing or have such a beast late game you don't even have to worry about harassing your opponents. Boredom plays a pretty big role here I feel and I really want to change things up. Basically meaning learning a couple of champs from the get-go and try to get every single last hit each game. So I thought, hell, go learn Singed/GP, Ahri/Fizz/Ryze, Nocturne/Lee, Corki/Sivir. Any other suggestions? | ||
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Two_DoWn
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dooraven
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starfries
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