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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#4541
I used to play dota for a long time so im really used to smartcasting.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
January 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#4542
In the end I think it is not important if you use smart cast but you need to have intuitive feeling for the range of your spells. If you have to check first and evaluate if this will hit... it is usually too late and you missed your chance. So overly relying on seeing the cast range can be a problem imo.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#4543
On January 16 2012 19:05 BlueSpace wrote:
In the end I think it is not important if you use smart cast but you need to have intuitive feeling for the range of your spells. If you have to check first and evaluate if this will hit... it is usually too late and you missed your chance. So overly relying on seeing the cast range can be a problem imo.


Not entirely true, the range on an ability doenst change, and its allways 'cast' in a straight line. However, its a little mindthing where I use Q-click instantly, so I still see the graphic and know it will hit. I dont know, think its more a mindthing then anything else.
KCCO!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 16 2012 10:10 GMT
#4544
I once changed everything to smartcast and then I jungle'd Yi, realized he stops moving when I smartcast Q a target out of range and changed everything back to normal.

The end of my smartcast journey. Shift op. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
January 16 2012 10:20 GMT
#4545
i just smartcast everything. if you change it all to smartcast right now (RIGHT NOW) and never look back it takes like 2-3 games to get used to it and then you never have to think about it again. seeing the range of stuff is often very misleading because it makes you think you can hit someone with the very edge of a spell but you really cant.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 16 2012 10:21 GMT
#4546
I smartcast everything always. I'm not sure if it's made me a better or worse player but for things that don't need to be 100% exact (veigar stun) it's cake.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 10:35:36
January 16 2012 10:35 GMT
#4547
I changed everything too smart cast a couple weeks ago. I absolutely love it . Sometimes I'll mess up skills like Q on graves, but its k I ate an orange.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 16 2012 11:02 GMT
#4548
On January 16 2012 18:55 Beyonder wrote:
Anyoen knows where I can watch some good practice wars? Pref with casting? :O

Very hard to find quality commentaries atm.
The legend of Darien lives on
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 16 2012 11:04 GMT
#4549
On January 16 2012 20:02 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 18:55 Beyonder wrote:
Anyoen knows where I can watch some good practice wars? Pref with casting? :O

Very hard to find quality commentaries atm.

Best choice is waiting for some tourney that's gonna be commentated by a pro who doesn't participate in it. Though sometimes tourney organisers forbid people from restreaming their tourneys
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
January 16 2012 11:29 GMT
#4550
On January 16 2012 19:09 ihasaKAROT wrote:
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On January 16 2012 19:05 BlueSpace wrote:
In the end I think it is not important if you use smart cast but you need to have intuitive feeling for the range of your spells. If you have to check first and evaluate if this will hit... it is usually too late and you missed your chance. So overly relying on seeing the cast range can be a problem imo.


Not entirely true, the range on an ability doenst change, and its allways 'cast' in a straight line. However, its a little mindthing where I use Q-click instantly, so I still see the graphic and know it will hit. I dont know, think its more a mindthing then anything else.


I didn't mean that the range changes. Just that you need to make sure to use as little time as possible to evaluate the range of any ability. Ideally that means that you just know whether or not you can hit something without having to rely on any animation.
Whether you then just press the button or press the button and click at the same time doesn't matter and is more a matter of preference. I think smartcasting forces you to train that and I think people benefit from that.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 16 2012 12:11 GMT
#4551
i have everything on smartcast and the normal cast on shift QWER. really good to look up the range for some spells or normal cast spells like lux laser
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 16 2012 12:32 GMT
#4552
got everything on smartcast, every item and summoner spell included. I think this is the only viable setup.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#4553
On January 16 2012 20:02 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 18:55 Beyonder wrote:
Anyoen knows where I can watch some good practice wars? Pref with casting? :O

Very hard to find quality commentaries atm.

Hmmm.. LoL is such a mess for me, need a teamliquid for it :O Only good thing is the first person view streams for practice wars >_<
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 16 2012 12:44 GMT
#4554
On January 16 2012 21:42 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 20:02 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 16 2012 18:55 Beyonder wrote:
Anyoen knows where I can watch some good practice wars? Pref with casting? :O

Very hard to find quality commentaries atm.

Hmmm.. LoL is such a mess for me, need a teamliquid for it :O Only good thing is the first person view streams for practice wars >_<

I'd be very glad to become a LoL shoutcaster personnaly, but it's very hard to gain access to games to spectate, and there are no replays. This is the biggest downside of this game :'(
The legend of Darien lives on
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 16 2012 13:11 GMT
#4555
On January 16 2012 21:44 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 21:42 Beyonder wrote:
On January 16 2012 20:02 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 16 2012 18:55 Beyonder wrote:
Anyoen knows where I can watch some good practice wars? Pref with casting? :O

Very hard to find quality commentaries atm.

Hmmm.. LoL is such a mess for me, need a teamliquid for it :O Only good thing is the first person view streams for practice wars >_<

I'd be very glad to become a LoL shoutcaster personnaly, but it's very hard to gain access to games to spectate, and there are no replays. This is the biggest downside of this game :'(


No replays+people being picky about which games can get spec'd are the main problem there. I'd be in for it as well, but commentating when someone else moves the camera around is total crap.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
January 16 2012 13:37 GMT
#4556
Is there smartcast in dota?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 16 2012 13:45 GMT
#4557
I have everything on smartcast except for summoners and items. There are some exceptions (Viktor laser), but for the most part, I've become more accurate with my spells and faster with them because of it.
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DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 16 2012 14:12 GMT
#4558
as smartcast is on topic now:
i always wanted to smartcast everything with QWER but some spells i wanted to cast normal. so every game i had to rebind my keys depending on which champ i was playing. i see alot of streamers doing this. i was always bothered that you can't bind normal cast to Shift-QWER ingame.

i somewhere found an instruction how to do it:
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go to C:\Program Files\LoL\League of Legends\RADS\solutions\lol_game_client_sln\releases\0.0.0.105\deploy\DATA\CFG or where you installed your lol and open the file "input.ini" and overwrite the files:
evtCastSpell1=[Shift][q]
evtCastSpell2=[Shift][w]
evtCastSpell3=[Shift][e]
evtCastSpell4=[Shift][r]
evtSmartCastSpell1=[q]
evtSmartCastSpell2=[w]
evtSmartCastSpell3=[e]
evtSmartCastSpell4=[r]

this way you can normal cast with shift. normally through the Ingame options you cannot rebind the keys like this


i know this is somehow described in the Tech Support thread, but i didn't find it at first glance and it has too much information. Thought i'd write it down so someone with the same problem can profit.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 14:35:05
January 16 2012 14:31 GMT
#4559
I don't smartcast targetable spells that affect allies or self like Kayle's shield or heal, or morgana's shield. It's too easy to miss. Sometimes I forget to change my key bindings in game though TT

Oh and viktor's E. Fuck viktor's E and smartcast TTTT


On January 16 2012 19:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I smartcast everything always. I'm not sure if it's made me a better or worse player but for things that don't need to be 100% exact (veigar stun) it's cake.


I thought veigar's stun had to be exact if you wanted to hit your enemy in lane. Don't smartcast veigar's stun.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 14:43:27
January 16 2012 14:37 GMT
#4560
On January 16 2012 23:31 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I don't smartcast targetable spells that affect allies or self like Kayle's shield or heal, or morgana's shield. It's too easy to miss. Sometimes I forget to change my key bindings in game though TT

Oh and viktor's E. Fuck viktor's E and smartcast TTTT


Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 19:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I smartcast everything always. I'm not sure if it's made me a better or worse player but for things that don't need to be 100% exact (veigar stun) it's cake.


I thought veigar's stun had to be exact if you wanted to hit your enemy in lane. Don't smartcast veigar's stun.

It's absolutely possible to hit a Veigar stun with smartcast spot on. It's just pretty damn hard to get used to it.

Just like you can get used to the travel times of Ashe/Ezreal ult to hit targets 3000+ range away.
Actually I guess that you HAVE to learn how to hit Veigar stun without being able to check the range helper if you want to be able to Flash-Stun-Burst. If you have enough time to look at the marker, reposition it and then cast, the enemy has enough time to Flash away.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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