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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 16 2012 14:41 GMT
#4561
On January 16 2012 23:31 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I don't smartcast targetable spells that affect allies or self like Kayle's shield or heal, or morgana's shield. It's too easy to miss. Sometimes I forget to change my key bindings in game though TT

Oh and viktor's E. Fuck viktor's E and smartcast TTTT


Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 19:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I smartcast everything always. I'm not sure if it's made me a better or worse player but for things that don't need to be 100% exact (veigar stun) it's cake.


I thought veigar's stun had to be exact if you wanted to hit your enemy in lane. Don't smartcast veigar's stun.

I've got a few macro keys set to self-cast for those heals and stuff for when I'm playing champions like nidalee
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
griMetone
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 14:45:03
January 16 2012 14:44 GMT
#4562
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.
"Change favors the prepared mind."
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 16 2012 14:56 GMT
#4563
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.


Strong shoutcasting = higher exposure = easier to attract sponsors.


I'd bet that if strong shoutcasters would cast scrims the total numbers watching would increase. Thinking about their own personal stream income is pretty damn shortsighted.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
January 16 2012 15:03 GMT
#4564
On January 16 2012 23:56 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.


Strong shoutcasting = higher exposure = easier to attract sponsors.


I'd bet that if strong shoutcasters would cast scrims the total numbers watching would increase. Thinking about their own personal stream income is pretty damn shortsighted.


It would also prevent people from hearing the communication between the players on certain teams. I don't think that sponsors are attracted by people calling each other retard for 45 minutes -.-
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 16 2012 15:05 GMT
#4565
Maybe we could have a couple community commentators for that tournament that someone is running (I forget by whom :3).

I mean, if I end up playing in it, I'll be streaming, but we could get more Amateur Scene exposure with some community shout casters!
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 15:24:33
January 16 2012 15:23 GMT
#4566
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.

CLG EU did a call for it recently (http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=550611), I contacted them but never got a reply :/

I asked to obs ONE scrim to be able to commentate in real conditions.
The legend of Darien lives on
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 15:55:24
January 16 2012 15:54 GMT
#4567
On January 16 2012 23:56 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.


Strong shoutcasting = higher exposure = easier to attract sponsors.


I'd bet that if strong shoutcasters would cast scrims the total numbers watching would increase. Thinking about their own personal stream income is pretty damn shortsighted.


pretty much everything high profile people in the lol community do is short sighted

On January 17 2012 00:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.

CLG EU did a call for it recently (http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=550611), I contacted them but never got a reply :/

I asked to obs ONE scrim to be able to commentate in real conditions.


sending a reply and/or inviting you to obs a scrim would take 30 seconds out of their day. streaming some lol and masturbating takes up far too much time for them to be able to do that.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 16 2012 16:12 GMT
#4568
On January 17 2012 00:54 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 23:56 r.Evo wrote:
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.


Strong shoutcasting = higher exposure = easier to attract sponsors.


I'd bet that if strong shoutcasters would cast scrims the total numbers watching would increase. Thinking about their own personal stream income is pretty damn shortsighted.


pretty much everything high profile people in the lol community do is short sighted

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 00:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.

CLG EU did a call for it recently (http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=550611), I contacted them but never got a reply :/

I asked to obs ONE scrim to be able to commentate in real conditions.


sending a reply and/or inviting you to obs a scrim would take 30 seconds out of their day. streaming some lol and masturbating takes up far too much time for them to be able to do that.

Well, at the moment, one can actually say that the lol business model is actually BETTER than the comparable starcraft one. At least in lol its the players who are the ones rewarded with money and fame (especially when it comes to streaming). Not to say that it doenst such that there arent any decent casters, but we dont see the same problem in starcraft where pros play the games and casters make a LOT more money by casting them and posting them to Youtube.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
January 16 2012 16:12 GMT
#4569
An advantage of smartcasting is that only one command is send to the server instead of two, halving the latency. It´s mechanically superiour unless you actually have to confirm range and/or AOE of the spell like Veigar.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 16 2012 16:18 GMT
#4570
So I picked up Cho (who is very fun by the way), and is it just my computer acting wierd or does his scream's targeting cone come unattached? Like, the middle point won't stay attached to his body, and he'll walk away to shoot it, so when I want to quickly fire one off, you have to make sure your cursor is right up next to his model.

Just strikes me as odd, no other point blank cones work like that as far as I can tell.
It's your boy Guzma!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 16 2012 16:21 GMT
#4571
On January 17 2012 01:12 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 00:54 turdburgler wrote:
On January 16 2012 23:56 r.Evo wrote:
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.


Strong shoutcasting = higher exposure = easier to attract sponsors.


I'd bet that if strong shoutcasters would cast scrims the total numbers watching would increase. Thinking about their own personal stream income is pretty damn shortsighted.


pretty much everything high profile people in the lol community do is short sighted

On January 17 2012 00:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.

CLG EU did a call for it recently (http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=550611), I contacted them but never got a reply :/

I asked to obs ONE scrim to be able to commentate in real conditions.


sending a reply and/or inviting you to obs a scrim would take 30 seconds out of their day. streaming some lol and masturbating takes up far too much time for them to be able to do that.

Well, at the moment, one can actually say that the lol business model is actually BETTER than the comparable starcraft one. At least in lol its the players who are the ones rewarded with money and fame (especially when it comes to streaming). Not to say that it doenst such that there arent any decent casters, but we dont see the same problem in starcraft where pros play the games and casters make a LOT more money by casting them and posting them to Youtube.


i dont see how you define that as better. when the lol scene grows up there wont be time for players to do casting, as a lot of people in the sc world have found out, if you want to take your game seriously you dont have time for that crap. now in the lol scene theres no developed model for a caster making money. do they attach themselves to a team? are they independent? do they pester teams to watch scrims or do they organise it themselves?

eventually lol is gonna need more dedicated casters, but how do they take the plunge into it?
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 16 2012 16:25 GMT
#4572
On January 17 2012 01:18 Requizen wrote:
So I picked up Cho (who is very fun by the way), and is it just my computer acting wierd or does his scream's targeting cone come unattached? Like, the middle point won't stay attached to his body, and he'll walk away to shoot it, so when I want to quickly fire one off, you have to make sure your cursor is right up next to his model.

Just strikes me as odd, no other point blank cones work like that as far as I can tell.


annie's works the same O_O
And all is illuminated.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#4573
On January 17 2012 01:21 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 01:12 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:54 turdburgler wrote:
On January 16 2012 23:56 r.Evo wrote:
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.


Strong shoutcasting = higher exposure = easier to attract sponsors.


I'd bet that if strong shoutcasters would cast scrims the total numbers watching would increase. Thinking about their own personal stream income is pretty damn shortsighted.


pretty much everything high profile people in the lol community do is short sighted

On January 17 2012 00:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 16 2012 23:44 griMetone wrote:
There is no little benefit for top teams to allow shoutcasters to spectate their games as it basically lowers their income (gained through personal streaming). Until a decent replay system is released, the only way I can see shoutcasters getting access to Skrims is by making an agreement with the top teams managers or by accessing lesser known teams hoping to gain some exposure.

CLG EU did a call for it recently (http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=550611), I contacted them but never got a reply :/

I asked to obs ONE scrim to be able to commentate in real conditions.


sending a reply and/or inviting you to obs a scrim would take 30 seconds out of their day. streaming some lol and masturbating takes up far too much time for them to be able to do that.

Well, at the moment, one can actually say that the lol business model is actually BETTER than the comparable starcraft one. At least in lol its the players who are the ones rewarded with money and fame (especially when it comes to streaming). Not to say that it doenst such that there arent any decent casters, but we dont see the same problem in starcraft where pros play the games and casters make a LOT more money by casting them and posting them to Youtube.


i dont see how you define that as better. when the lol scene grows up there wont be time for players to do casting, as a lot of people in the sc world have found out, if you want to take your game seriously you dont have time for that crap. now in the lol scene theres no developed model for a caster making money. do they attach themselves to a team? are they independent? do they pester teams to watch scrims or do they organise it themselves?

eventually lol is gonna need more dedicated casters, but how do they take the plunge into it?

We get a replay system and they cast shit and gain a following.

The hints I have gotten from Riot indicate that the system they are shooting for is going to automatically keep/upload replays to the client so that you can search for people and get their replays. Then they can just cast those and whoever is good will gain a following. Not all that hard.

Its a hell of a lot easier to find a good caster than it is to try to fix whatever the hell happened to the starcraft scene.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 16:28:02
January 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#4574
Just watched stonewall jungle udyr. That shit is scary good.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#4575
On January 17 2012 01:25 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 01:18 Requizen wrote:
So I picked up Cho (who is very fun by the way), and is it just my computer acting wierd or does his scream's targeting cone come unattached? Like, the middle point won't stay attached to his body, and he'll walk away to shoot it, so when I want to quickly fire one off, you have to make sure your cursor is right up next to his model.

Just strikes me as odd, no other point blank cones work like that as far as I can tell.


annie's works the same O_O

Hard as it may be to believe, I've never played Annie. I'm not really a Mage player. But like Graves, Riven, and Ashe all have cone shots that don't pull away from them when you go to click the side of the screen. Just thought it was odd.
It's your boy Guzma!
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 16 2012 16:35 GMT
#4576
On January 17 2012 01:28 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 01:25 freelander wrote:
On January 17 2012 01:18 Requizen wrote:
So I picked up Cho (who is very fun by the way), and is it just my computer acting wierd or does his scream's targeting cone come unattached? Like, the middle point won't stay attached to his body, and he'll walk away to shoot it, so when I want to quickly fire one off, you have to make sure your cursor is right up next to his model.

Just strikes me as odd, no other point blank cones work like that as far as I can tell.


annie's works the same O_O

Hard as it may be to believe, I've never played Annie. I'm not really a Mage player. But like Graves, Riven, and Ashe all have cone shots that don't pull away from them when you go to click the side of the screen. Just thought it was odd.


Yeah, I have noticed it too. Idk if it is a bug or feature, but usually it doesn't mean too much of a difference to me as I don't cast W when far away.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
January 16 2012 16:43 GMT
#4577
I always thought the scream was suppose to be that way. Never thought about it. Although casting it away from you is probably the worse/lazy option than walking and then casting it.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 16 2012 16:49 GMT
#4578
On January 17 2012 01:43 mordek wrote:
I always thought the scream was suppose to be that way. Never thought about it. Although casting it away from you is probably the worse/lazy option than walking and then casting it.

Exactly, in what situation would you choose to target it down the lane and then watch him walk there? Dunno, just bugged me a bit after playing Graves and Riven for so long.
It's your boy Guzma!
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 16 2012 16:51 GMT
#4579
On January 17 2012 01:43 mordek wrote:
I always thought the scream was suppose to be that way. Never thought about it. Although casting it away from you is probably the worse/lazy option than walking and then casting it.

WAI afaik. I just smartcast cone effects though.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 16 2012 16:59 GMT
#4580
ok, after 4 hours math lecture and the doodling that comes with it i asked myself:

why in the hell do we still use a mouse and not some kind of gaming pen for like 3 times the accuracy and speed oO.



also, inb4 someone else gets rich with my gaming pens.
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