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On January 16 2012 14:37 BlackMagister wrote:
You really need a lot of wards to deal with Rammus ganks. That's probably a smart idea to have a support jungler to counter rammus. That was also a neat GP and Sivir Ult to double kill bot.
Regi derping hard again. Dives Xerath at tower, gets stunned by Xerath and dies.
Everytime i've ever watched Regi he just seems to make these Hyper-Agressive moves that pay off maybe 1/4 of the time? Like I watched him playing Kassa throwing out the REQ combo, then while it was all on CD and his opponent flashed away he flashed at him and then just turned around and ran off...
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On January 16 2012 14:45 Skithiryx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 14:37 BlackMagister wrote:
You really need a lot of wards to deal with Rammus ganks. That's probably a smart idea to have a support jungler to counter rammus. That was also a neat GP and Sivir Ult to double kill bot.
Regi derping hard again. Dives Xerath at tower, gets stunned by Xerath and dies. Everytime i've ever watched Regi he just seems to make these Hyper-Agressive moves that pay off maybe 1/4 of the time? Like I watched him playing Kassa throwing out the REQ combo, then while it was all on CD and his opponent flashed away he flashed at him and then just turned around and ran off...
He always seems to be very loose in scrims but dials back a bit in actual games. Actual tryhard on point regi is probably the strongest straight up mid in the world. Unfortunately you only get that regi once or twice a tournament.
And not that anyone asked for it, but US AP carry rankings according to T_D:
Salce
Regi
Jiji
Scarra
NyJackie
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Too bad the scrim is ruined because Doublelift dced and has been for like 5 mins. SV considering forfeiting. CLG was ahead in towers but behind in dragons. Game was fairly even though I would give slight lead to CLG before the dc.
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Holy hell, hotshot just let Rain Man have 250 CS at 25 minutes. And he got rammus presence too > >
Rain MAn isn't even that good at CSing, did hotshot just sit in a brush and do nothing?
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Irelia beats Nidalee according to Hotshot. I'm surprised that Rainman did well with Irelia, his champ select seems so limited in previous scrims. Doublelift was saying it was bad because he goes wriggles on her though he didn't this game. Regi expect for the derp tower dive did well mid and yeah it did leave TOO opportunities to gank bot when Rammus couldn't kill Cass.
No more scrims because Doublelift internet down.
Oh wait I think TOO and Regi vs Jiji and SV in duo Q. Yep same bans. Definitely same game.
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On January 16 2012 14:49 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 14:45 Skithiryx wrote:On January 16 2012 14:37 BlackMagister wrote:
You really need a lot of wards to deal with Rammus ganks. That's probably a smart idea to have a support jungler to counter rammus. That was also a neat GP and Sivir Ult to double kill bot.
Regi derping hard again. Dives Xerath at tower, gets stunned by Xerath and dies. Everytime i've ever watched Regi he just seems to make these Hyper-Agressive moves that pay off maybe 1/4 of the time? Like I watched him playing Kassa throwing out the REQ combo, then while it was all on CD and his opponent flashed away he flashed at him and then just turned around and ran off... He always seems to be very loose in scrims but dials back a bit in actual games. Actual tryhard on point regi is probably the strongest straight up mid in the world. Unfortunately you only get that regi once or twice a tournament. And not that anyone asked for it, but US AP carry rankings according to T_D: Salce Regi Jiji Scarra NyJackie Soniv
FTFY
But on topic, sometimes Regi just makes me cringe. His Cass is so sad =( I also think he needs to hold off playing LB a bit. People are figuring out how to play against it.
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On January 16 2012 14:49 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 14:45 Skithiryx wrote:On January 16 2012 14:37 BlackMagister wrote:
You really need a lot of wards to deal with Rammus ganks. That's probably a smart idea to have a support jungler to counter rammus. That was also a neat GP and Sivir Ult to double kill bot.
Regi derping hard again. Dives Xerath at tower, gets stunned by Xerath and dies. Everytime i've ever watched Regi he just seems to make these Hyper-Agressive moves that pay off maybe 1/4 of the time? Like I watched him playing Kassa throwing out the REQ combo, then while it was all on CD and his opponent flashed away he flashed at him and then just turned around and ran off... He always seems to be very loose in scrims but dials back a bit in actual games. Actual tryhard on point regi is probably the strongest straight up mid in the world. Unfortunately you only get that regi once or twice a tournament. And not that anyone asked for it, but US AP carry rankings according to T_D: Salce Regi Jiji Scarra NyJackie
it's the same for rain man too I watch him and I facepalm at his every move
but like did that guy lose a single lane at MLG providence? lol
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On January 16 2012 13:54 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 12:46 BluzMan wrote:On January 16 2012 12:37 Two_DoWn wrote:On January 16 2012 12:35 BluzMan wrote:
Holy diapers Graves is so stronk. For some reason our AP Kog insisted on going bottom, so I ended up mid with Graves. Malphite donated me blue and with it I outpushed a fucking Cassiopeia. Lolwut. There is a reason ad carries used to go mid. It sure as hell wasnt because they sucked in solo lanes. Btw she tried to kill me at 6. But since I had heal and Graves' burst with ult is stupid strong as well I survived with like 50 HP and she didn't. Then I got blue, Wriggles and she basically couldn't touch me because I was full HP all the time and she actually lost any full HP all-in. Idk, this champ seems retarded level strong. my understanding of basically why ad's shifted bot is basically that yeah, they're strong in lane, and have some really good matchups, but they can also get seriously counterpicked, which leads to your primary late-game dps being incredibly gimped. Having a support babysit you really mitigates that, and basically makes it less likely for you to get shut down. like, mf, cait, ezreal and corki are all classically really strong solo mid champions. Vayne is super strong in top lane, so a ranged AD champion doing really well in a solo lane matchup isn't exactly mindblowing. Something also to consider is that during the period of solo lane ranged AD, cass used to be listed as a low tier trash champ (by a majority of players, doesnt necessarily mean it was true). Now whether that has anything to do with her potentially being bad against ranged AD, or ppl simply had no clue how to play her is up for debate, but still something to think about.
Imo Vayne's kit doesn't really suit a solo lane. She will find her self struggling to last hit minions under her tower way too often to even think about going on offense, besides, condemn doesn't even work in mid since there are so few walls there and it practically screams "stun chaining!" Top I dunno, I dont see her beating Riven or the like tbh.
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On January 16 2012 15:01 BluzMan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 13:54 barbsq wrote:On January 16 2012 12:46 BluzMan wrote:On January 16 2012 12:37 Two_DoWn wrote:On January 16 2012 12:35 BluzMan wrote:
Holy diapers Graves is so stronk. For some reason our AP Kog insisted on going bottom, so I ended up mid with Graves. Malphite donated me blue and with it I outpushed a fucking Cassiopeia. Lolwut. There is a reason ad carries used to go mid. It sure as hell wasnt because they sucked in solo lanes. Btw she tried to kill me at 6. But since I had heal and Graves' burst with ult is stupid strong as well I survived with like 50 HP and she didn't. Then I got blue, Wriggles and she basically couldn't touch me because I was full HP all the time and she actually lost any full HP all-in. Idk, this champ seems retarded level strong. my understanding of basically why ad's shifted bot is basically that yeah, they're strong in lane, and have some really good matchups, but they can also get seriously counterpicked, which leads to your primary late-game dps being incredibly gimped. Having a support babysit you really mitigates that, and basically makes it less likely for you to get shut down. like, mf, cait, ezreal and corki are all classically really strong solo mid champions. Vayne is super strong in top lane, so a ranged AD champion doing really well in a solo lane matchup isn't exactly mindblowing. Something also to consider is that during the period of solo lane ranged AD, cass used to be listed as a low tier trash champ (by a majority of players, doesnt necessarily mean it was true). Now whether that has anything to do with her potentially being bad against ranged AD, or ppl simply had no clue how to play her is up for debate, but still something to think about. Imo Vayne's kit doesn't really suit a solo lane. She will find her self struggling to last hit minions under her tower way too often to even think about going on offense, besides, condemn doesn't even work in mid since there are so few walls there and it practically screams "stun chaining!" Top I dunno, I dont see her beating Riven or the like tbh.
Apparently vayne is like balls out retarded top.
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Vayne is a very hard counter pick to many popular top laners
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On January 16 2012 15:01 BluzMan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 13:54 barbsq wrote:On January 16 2012 12:46 BluzMan wrote:On January 16 2012 12:37 Two_DoWn wrote:On January 16 2012 12:35 BluzMan wrote:
Holy diapers Graves is so stronk. For some reason our AP Kog insisted on going bottom, so I ended up mid with Graves. Malphite donated me blue and with it I outpushed a fucking Cassiopeia. Lolwut. There is a reason ad carries used to go mid. It sure as hell wasnt because they sucked in solo lanes. Btw she tried to kill me at 6. But since I had heal and Graves' burst with ult is stupid strong as well I survived with like 50 HP and she didn't. Then I got blue, Wriggles and she basically couldn't touch me because I was full HP all the time and she actually lost any full HP all-in. Idk, this champ seems retarded level strong. my understanding of basically why ad's shifted bot is basically that yeah, they're strong in lane, and have some really good matchups, but they can also get seriously counterpicked, which leads to your primary late-game dps being incredibly gimped. Having a support babysit you really mitigates that, and basically makes it less likely for you to get shut down. like, mf, cait, ezreal and corki are all classically really strong solo mid champions. Vayne is super strong in top lane, so a ranged AD champion doing really well in a solo lane matchup isn't exactly mindblowing. Something also to consider is that during the period of solo lane ranged AD, cass used to be listed as a low tier trash champ (by a majority of players, doesnt necessarily mean it was true). Now whether that has anything to do with her potentially being bad against ranged AD, or ppl simply had no clue how to play her is up for debate, but still something to think about. Imo Vayne's kit doesn't really suit a solo lane. She will find her self struggling to last hit minions under her tower way too often to even think about going on offense, besides, condemn doesn't even work in mid since there are so few walls there and it practically screams "stun chaining!" Top I dunno, I dont see her beating Riven or the like tbh.
Vayne does well top just because of the fact that she is ranged with fat damage and is pretty much impossible to get near enough to hit. With roll and condemn its just a nightmare playing any melee champ because she can harass you constantly and you cant do shit about it. Most popular tops are melee, thus her strength.
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vayne's very good in some matchups top. it's pretty stupid because she can build really weird shit and still do a metric fuckton of damage (I usually see vayne's top go like, wriggle's -> Triforce or wriggle's -> PD -> AtMallet or weird shit like that and they still truck people o_O).
EDIT: she will get fucked in the face by Pantheon top though, probably j4 too. she's fucking retardedly strong vs. like, udyr, riven, cho, singed, but intant gap closers are strong vs. her, even with condemn + tumble and if she ever gets behind vs. even a moderately strong burster she's just done without heavy gank support.
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Is there any good reason saint doesn't smart cast smite? To me it seems REALLY lazy for a world class jungle....
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On January 16 2012 15:12 Mogwai wrote:
vayne's very good in some matchups top. it's pretty stupid because she can build really weird shit and still do a metric fuckton of damage (I usually see vayne's top go like, wriggle's -> Triforce or wriggle's -> PD -> AtMallet or weird shit like that and they still truck people o_O).
Shouldnt you be happy? Wouldnt Xin be a perfect counterpick if someone picks solo top vayne?
And the only spell that saint smart casts is rammus e. Other than that he never uses it. Smartcast on smite is personal preference. There really is no good argument FOR smartcasting it.
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On January 16 2012 15:15 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 15:12 Mogwai wrote:
vayne's very good in some matchups top. it's pretty stupid because she can build really weird shit and still do a metric fuckton of damage (I usually see vayne's top go like, wriggle's -> Triforce or wriggle's -> PD -> AtMallet or weird shit like that and they still truck people o_O). Shouldnt you be happy? Wouldnt Xin be a perfect counterpick if someone picks solo top vayne?
no, Pantheon's still just a better pick in lane. solo top xin is basically dead to me since you can't get level 2 off of stealing your team's small gols to start.
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On January 16 2012 15:17 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 15:15 Two_DoWn wrote:On January 16 2012 15:12 Mogwai wrote:
vayne's very good in some matchups top. it's pretty stupid because she can build really weird shit and still do a metric fuckton of damage (I usually see vayne's top go like, wriggle's -> Triforce or wriggle's -> PD -> AtMallet or weird shit like that and they still truck people o_O). Shouldnt you be happy? Wouldnt Xin be a perfect counterpick if someone picks solo top vayne? no, Pantheon's still just a better pick in lane. solo top xin is basically dead to me since you can't get level 2 off of stealing your team's small gols to start.
Btw smash can you stream some jarvan games whenever you get the chance? Or maybe you have some replays and stuff? I bought him and Im failing really bad 
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On January 16 2012 15:14 Azuzu wrote:
Is there any good reason saint doesn't smart cast smite? To me it seems REALLY lazy for a world class jungle....
It's because he's technically below mediocre in comparison to other top junglers, he doesn't smartcast any skills either and it makes no sense to me. But as he misses just about every lasthit as well and just seems to fail at control, that all seems to explain itself. He's good at knowing the dmg smite does at every level though
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On January 16 2012 15:31 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 15:14 Azuzu wrote:
Is there any good reason saint doesn't smart cast smite? To me it seems REALLY lazy for a world class jungle.... It's because he's technically below mediocre in comparison to other top junglers, he doesn't smartcast any skills either and it makes no sense to me. But as he misses just about every lasthit as well and just seems to fail at control, that all seems to explain itself. He's good at knowing the dmg smite does at every level though
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I dont even know where to start...
I mean, you are aware that you just called the best jungle in the world mediocre right?
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On January 16 2012 15:34 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 15:31 Shikyo wrote:On January 16 2012 15:14 Azuzu wrote:
Is there any good reason saint doesn't smart cast smite? To me it seems REALLY lazy for a world class jungle.... It's because he's technically below mediocre in comparison to other top junglers, he doesn't smartcast any skills either and it makes no sense to me. But as he misses just about every lasthit as well and just seems to fail at control, that all seems to explain itself. He's good at knowing the dmg smite does at every level though ... ... ... I dont even know where to start... I mean, you are aware that you just called the best jungle in the world mediocre right?
he said technically meaning mechanics
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On January 16 2012 15:31 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 15:14 Azuzu wrote:
Is there any good reason saint doesn't smart cast smite? To me it seems REALLY lazy for a world class jungle.... It's because he's technically below mediocre in comparison to other top junglers, he doesn't smartcast any skills either and it makes no sense to me. But as he misses just about every lasthit as well and just seems to fail at control, that all seems to explain itself. He's good at knowing the dmg smite does at every level though
I mean, I've seen you post some really stupid things before, but I think this is one of the worst. You hold opinions that I used to think were trolls, but I'm starting to think you legitimately just have some kind of problem where you're incapable of holding correct opinions.
You're saying that saintvicious, a player who even top junglers agree is one of (if not THE) best jungler, is not good, or even mediocre, but straight out saying he's bad. What the hell is wrong with you?
As for actual content, I think Riot may have bugged health gains on level up back to their old state - I'm watching streams and I'm seeing players go from 1-200 health to 2-300 health when they level up, when they should only be gaining 20-30 health. I can't confirm it because I'm too lazy to play a game, but it seems pretty convincing from the few times I've seen it today.
On January 16 2012 15:43 Owned Noob wrote:
he said technically meaning mechanics
I don't think you know Shikyo
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