[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 158

On January 11 2012 12:03 CeriseCherries wrote:
YESSSSS TSM last minute surrender in scrim... my friends deny me so much IP by doing this way too much in normal -.-

On January 11 2012 11:34 tobi9999 wrote:
Connection Failure: Unable to connect to PVP.net server

ZzzZzzz
I've done everything, updated my computer, repaired LoL, etcetc

After this patch it still won't fucking let me log on. No idea what happened, didn't really do anything.

On January 11 2012 12:12 tobi9999 wrote:


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The support page not helpful at all, doesn't even tell me why the hell this is happening

Well, can't log in, gg.

On January 11 2012 09:16 UniversalSnip wrote:
Things I don't like about the new masteries:

- Highest half or so of defense tree blows
- Poor readability on utility tree, I have no idea what the value of the majority of these masteries are. We're talking about marginal advantages per point and since the benefits are basically invisible in game there's no opacity to point selection here. I suspect I would actually be using this on some non-supports if I had any idea what I was getting in game. Since 21 defense kind of evidently sucks this ends up making offense look crazy op.
- Still some 'trap' masteries like the 0.5% damage. There's more than enough customization options that distinguish new players from experienced ones in the items, why in the masteries too...? When you pick a shitty item in game somebody will educate you and you learn, when you pick a shitty mastery you will probably have it indefinitely.
- Summoner masteries, I don't understand the purpose of these. I'm really confused about this, why not just have the upgraded versions by default? Nothing more annoying than going back and having to reset everything for one mastery point switch, I don't see how I as a player am getting more fun out of putting one point in these things or not. It's not even a meaningful choice because the alternative is almost always worthless.

Things I do like:
- Pretty much everything else, the new trees are just more usable than the old ones, there's less garbage and i like having the offense tree be a viable caster option.

On January 11 2012 09:16 UniversalSnip wrote:
Things I don't like about the new masteries:

- Highest half or so of defense tree blows
- Poor readability on utility tree, I have no idea what the value of the majority of these masteries are. We're talking about marginal advantages per point and since the benefits are basically invisible in game there's no opacity to point selection here. I suspect I would actually be using this on some non-supports if I had any idea what I was getting in game. Since 21 defense kind of evidently sucks (at least to me, I'm not sure if anyone else agrees with this) it ends up making offense look crazy op.
- Still some 'trap' masteries like the 0.5% damage. There's more than enough customization options that distinguish new players from experienced ones in the items, why in the masteries too...? When you pick a shitty item in game somebody will educate you and you learn, when you pick a shitty mastery you will probably have it indefinitely.
- Summoner masteries, I don't understand the purpose of these. I'm really confused about this, why not just have the upgraded versions by default? Nothing more annoying than going back and having to reset everything for one mastery point switch, I don't see how I as a player am getting more fun out of putting one point in these things or not. It's not even a meaningful choice because the alternative is almost always worthless.

Things I do like:
- Pretty much everything else, the new trees are just more usable than the old ones, there's less garbage and i like having the offense tree be a viable caster option.

I still don't understand the new jungle. I really feel there needs to be more math on this.

I suspect there actually is a paucity of gold in the jungle simply because gp10 is so attractive at the moment - this would point to gold being a giffen good out of the jungle. On the other hand it could simply be a result of less protracted combat coming out of the jungle and the creeps not really being a threat, which is the kind of thing that tends to make laners build gp10... or it could be something else. I don't know.