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On December 17 2011 02:58 mordek wrote:
Has anyone messed around with an AP Alistar build recently? Haven't been able to find much on it that's up-to-date.
Also, noob question since I'm just now starting to play Ali: How do you do the Headbutt->Pulv combo so that the pulv keeps them right next to you?
Turn off smart cast, hit W, then when you're 100% sure they're in range click them and spam Q.
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On December 17 2011 03:03 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 02:58 mordek wrote:
Has anyone messed around with an AP Alistar build recently? Haven't been able to find much on it that's up-to-date.
Also, noob question since I'm just now starting to play Ali: How do you do the Headbutt->Pulv combo so that the pulv keeps them right next to you? It's kind of tricky and takes a fair amount of practice to do it consistently, but basically you just want to press Q right as you start to lunge for the Headbutt. Alisar's AP ratios are pretty bad though. 0.5 on Pulverize and 0.7 on Heabutt. I think if you want damage on Alistar, go for a combo like Sunfire + Abyssal, gives you some nice tanky stats while also having synergy with your passive.
assassin build quite good too, I've been running it on him out of the jungle forever and it's pretty scary. get a vamp scepter, triforce and bruta, press R and leap on their squishies in every fight. Don't think I've ever actually tried tank alistar with expensive items, could be fun though.
I guess the real question is what lane he's coming out of. If he's in duo lane he needs a support build with 1 or 2 gp5 and cdr, if jungle assassin build, if solo lane I guess assassin or maybe tank.
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On December 17 2011 03:29 Slaughter wrote:
Is it true that in ranked play the order of who picks champs is determined by Elo?
In solo q, you bet your ass I'm gonna take AP mid as first pick. I never ever trust anyone in solo q to play the lane I'm best in. If I'm last pick, I'll resign to whatever role is left over.
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On December 17 2011 03:18 JackDino wrote:
Just played teemo vs GP, his Q would dmg me despite being blinded, bug or just timing? 1second isn't that long but he pretty much fired it after my Q hit him, so my Q didn't hit him while his Q was midflight.
in terms of blinding, it strictly means autoattacks, so ezreal q and pirate q do full dmg.
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On December 17 2011 02:59 Nos- wrote:
Feels like positioning literally mean nothing to her. Most of the time she just sustains herself with her passive and low mana costs in lane, and then when she gets lucky with a Charm, rolls in with her ultimate and fox fire and just kills you. Perhaps I just need to get some heavy MR items against her? Not entirely sure how to deal with her yet.
Just hide always behind minions. If she hit 6 and gets you with charm, its pretty much over cause of the burst she has.
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I have found that typically the order of solo q picks tends to go top mid jungle 1-2-3 in some order with ad/support coming last.
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last picks should be the mid and top so you can counter pick their champs, but nobody does that.
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On December 17 2011 03:32 napo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 02:59 Nos- wrote:
Feels like positioning literally mean nothing to her. Most of the time she just sustains herself with her passive and low mana costs in lane, and then when she gets lucky with a Charm, rolls in with her ultimate and fox fire and just kills you. Perhaps I just need to get some heavy MR items against her? Not entirely sure how to deal with her yet. Just hide always behind minions. If she hit 6 and gets you with charm, its pretty much over cause of the burst she has.
Well dodging her projectiles before she hits 6 isn't very hard, just stutterstep and dance around as per usual. However it's just when she does land a Charm or her ball thing, I either get disabled and die to her burst, or the ball hits me for 1/4 of my HP and i die to he burst anyways. I was playing solo mid against her as Veigar maybe that was more the issue than Ahri as a hero.
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On December 17 2011 03:31 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 03:03 Alzadar wrote:On December 17 2011 02:58 mordek wrote:
Has anyone messed around with an AP Alistar build recently? Haven't been able to find much on it that's up-to-date.
Also, noob question since I'm just now starting to play Ali: How do you do the Headbutt->Pulv combo so that the pulv keeps them right next to you? It's kind of tricky and takes a fair amount of practice to do it consistently, but basically you just want to press Q right as you start to lunge for the Headbutt. Alisar's AP ratios are pretty bad though. 0.5 on Pulverize and 0.7 on Heabutt. I think if you want damage on Alistar, go for a combo like Sunfire + Abyssal, gives you some nice tanky stats while also having synergy with your passive. assassin build quite good too, I've been running it on him out of the jungle forever and it's pretty scary. get a vamp scepter, triforce and bruta, press R and leap on their squishies in every fight. Don't think I've ever actually tried tank alistar with expensive items, could be fun though. I guess the real question is what lane he's coming out of. If he's in duo lane he needs a support build with 1 or 2 gp5 and cdr, if jungle assassin build, if solo lane I guess assassin or maybe tank.
Skill order and items for jungle assassin?
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On December 17 2011 03:35 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 03:32 napo wrote:On December 17 2011 02:59 Nos- wrote:
Feels like positioning literally mean nothing to her. Most of the time she just sustains herself with her passive and low mana costs in lane, and then when she gets lucky with a Charm, rolls in with her ultimate and fox fire and just kills you. Perhaps I just need to get some heavy MR items against her? Not entirely sure how to deal with her yet. Just hide always behind minions. If she hit 6 and gets you with charm, its pretty much over cause of the burst she has. Well dodging her projectiles before she hits 6 isn't very hard, just stutterstep and dance around as per usual. However it's just when she does land a Charm or her ball thing, I either get disabled and die to her burst, or the ball hits me for 1/4 of my HP and i die to he burst anyways. I was playing solo mid against her as Veigar maybe that was more the issue than Ahri as a hero.
Well, it's like getting hit by a morg bind. If you get locked by that, be prepared to take a shit ton of damage. Just don't get hit and you're golden ^.^
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On December 17 2011 03:34 Sabin010 wrote:
last picks should be the mid and top so you can counter pick their champs, but nobody does that.
Why do you remid me of this sadness  (
I told people so often to not firstpick top, but they never listen.
It really feels top is the most easy to counter lane. But everyone wants to show of their skills.
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Just hope im your team captain next time. Always first pick Janna.
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On December 17 2011 03:35 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 03:32 napo wrote:On December 17 2011 02:59 Nos- wrote:
Feels like positioning literally mean nothing to her. Most of the time she just sustains herself with her passive and low mana costs in lane, and then when she gets lucky with a Charm, rolls in with her ultimate and fox fire and just kills you. Perhaps I just need to get some heavy MR items against her? Not entirely sure how to deal with her yet. Just hide always behind minions. If she hit 6 and gets you with charm, its pretty much over cause of the burst she has. Well dodging her projectiles before she hits 6 isn't very hard, just stutterstep and dance around as per usual. However it's just when she does land a Charm or her ball thing, I either get disabled and die to her burst, or the ball hits me for 1/4 of my HP and i die to he burst anyways. I was playing solo mid against her as Veigar maybe that was more the issue than Ahri as a hero. It's not the Q thingy, but her W that really hurts and its more reliable than the ball. True damage sounds nice, but its too easy to dodge it. Its better to miss 1-2 mobs, than face her combo and be killed/forced to bluepill.
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On December 17 2011 03:34 Sabin010 wrote:
last picks should be the mid and top so you can counter pick their champs, but nobody does that.
Also precisely why I rarely play champs like Malz. Get the shit counterpicked out of you if you take him early, but guaranteed to not have an ap mid open if you're a late pick.
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On December 17 2011 03:38 Siniyas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 03:34 Sabin010 wrote:
last picks should be the mid and top so you can counter pick their champs, but nobody does that. Why do you remid me of this sadness ( I told people so often to not firstpick top, but they never listen. It really feels top is the most easy to counter lane. But everyone wants to show of their skills.
My favorite is when people counter-pick themselves. Enemy picked Xerath? Sounds like great opportunity to pick Ryze!
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On December 17 2011 03:38 Siniyas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 03:34 Sabin010 wrote:
last picks should be the mid and top so you can counter pick their champs, but nobody does that. Why do you remid me of this sadness ( I told people so often to not firstpick top, but they never listen. It really feels top is the most easy to counter lane. But everyone wants to show of their skills.
Just go Yorick top first pick, uncounterable!
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On December 17 2011 03:53 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 03:38 Siniyas wrote:On December 17 2011 03:34 Sabin010 wrote:
last picks should be the mid and top so you can counter pick their champs, but nobody does that. Why do you remid me of this sadness ( I told people so often to not firstpick top, but they never listen. It really feels top is the most easy to counter lane. But everyone wants to show of their skills. My favorite is when people counter-pick themselves. Enemy picked Xerath? Sounds like great opportunity to pick Ryze!
Hahaha, I did that earlier today. I went down like 1-5 because he also had really good ganks from his jungle maokai. Ended up winning the game 9-7-16 though. Ryze too strong.
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On December 17 2011 03:53 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 03:38 Siniyas wrote:On December 17 2011 03:34 Sabin010 wrote:
last picks should be the mid and top so you can counter pick their champs, but nobody does that. Why do you remid me of this sadness ( I told people so often to not firstpick top, but they never listen. It really feels top is the most easy to counter lane. But everyone wants to show of their skills. My favorite is when people counter-pick themselves. Enemy picked Xerath? Sounds like great opportunity to pick Ryze!
I love it when the enemy 1st or 2nd lock in Kassadin. It's silly, really.
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On December 17 2011 03:46 napo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 03:35 Nos- wrote:On December 17 2011 03:32 napo wrote:On December 17 2011 02:59 Nos- wrote:
Feels like positioning literally mean nothing to her. Most of the time she just sustains herself with her passive and low mana costs in lane, and then when she gets lucky with a Charm, rolls in with her ultimate and fox fire and just kills you. Perhaps I just need to get some heavy MR items against her? Not entirely sure how to deal with her yet. Just hide always behind minions. If she hit 6 and gets you with charm, its pretty much over cause of the burst she has. Well dodging her projectiles before she hits 6 isn't very hard, just stutterstep and dance around as per usual. However it's just when she does land a Charm or her ball thing, I either get disabled and die to her burst, or the ball hits me for 1/4 of my HP and i die to he burst anyways. I was playing solo mid against her as Veigar maybe that was more the issue than Ahri as a hero. It's not the Q thingy, but her W that really hurts and its more reliable than the ball. True damage sounds nice, but its too easy to dodge it. Its better to miss 1-2 mobs, than face her combo and be killed/forced to bluepill.
W can't be controlled, Q can. A good player will hit you with a Q.
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On December 17 2011 03:29 Slaughter wrote:
Is it true that in ranked play the order of who picks champs is determined by Elo?
First pick is highest ELO on team, other four picks are randomized.
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