[Patch 1.0.0.131: Ahri] General Discussion - Page 65

On December 17 2011 00:37 Sabin010 wrote:
Isn't she too squishy to make use of abyssal? I was thinking the build (vs. standard ap mid) would look like Chalice, boots Sheen, boots 2, death cap, lichbanes, void staff. I know its pretty glass cannon, but you're going to have high burst with w auto attach every 4 seconds.

On December 17 2011 00:42 Kickboxer wrote:
I believe Ahri's cooldowns are way too long for her to be a serious factor right now, since her burst isn't really all that either. Assuming neither side is fed, you can hit all your spells on multiple targets in a teamfight and noone is dead. At that point it's a 4v5 for the next couple of seconds until your E comes back up, and your E is max lvl 2 anyway.

On December 17 2011 00:37 Sabin010 wrote:
Isn't she too squishy to make use of abyssal? I was thinking the build (vs. standard ap mid) would look like Chalice, boots Sheen, boots 2, death cap, lichbanes, void staff. I know its pretty glass cannon, but you're going to have high burst with w auto attach every 4 seconds.

On December 17 2011 00:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:


I don't find Chalice necessary at all. Maybe against Ryze or someone else with mostly single target non-skill shots. But even then, she outranges Ryze and shouldn't have many issues. She is mobile enough to avoid skill shots and burst at the same time. Her mana costs are insanely low. If you have learned how to manage mana while harrassing on any champion, then you shouldn't have any issues with Ahri. Once she gets blue buff, it's spam Q time.

I don't really like Sheen on her. I'm currently very partial to Boots - 2 d-ring - Rylai's - Deathcap right now. Rylai's is my favorite item in the game though. This makes you tanky enough to be close, and have the insane control over enemies that Rylai's gives. Once you get the deathcap, just dancing around the fight with ult and throwing skill shots around with W up is a lot of damage and keeps you safe.

Edit: I haven't tried early revolver yet. I'll have to give that a shot. Still, I always love me an early Rylai's :3

Congratulations, you just described every single AP carry in the game whose name is not Annie.

On December 17 2011 01:07 BlackPaladin wrote:
From watching streams I didn't seem to like how revolver builds looked. WotA rush, or just straight revolver seems...lackluster on her. =/ Too squishy and her passive already gives her some spell vamp anyway. You don't rush wota on morg just because she has spell vamp in her passive - that's a horrible build on her lol. I feel Ahri is the same case.

Best seems to be rylais rush since she's so squishy or standard deathcap rush. But bear in mind that's just watching streamers play her.

@soniv
haha, maybe because you main cass and are mr kite king? Kite all day, feed sion mid all game. Wait wut. :>

On December 17 2011 01:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Yes, it is because I like kiting. And Ahri is great at it. Also, that was 2 months ago, and my first game against Sion mid ever. Let it go.

On December 17 2011 01:10 Kickboxer wrote:


Err.... I wonder how come your version of the game is missing Karthus, Cassiopea, Anivia and Fiddlesticks because these champs kinda have spammable abilities you can shred people with until you're out of mana... nice reply bro. Well thought out.

On December 17 2011 01:19 Sabin010 wrote:
I haven't had mana issues with her, but I just think chalice is great for anybody laning vs ap that uses mana. And the w is so similar to sona's q that sheen would work really well with it. It's problebly a match up specific thing to level q or w first. Against a karthus/xerath/cass/anybody with stupid range you're better off maxing your q first over the w and skipping the early sheen, but against the top laners we all feel she's going to be picked to counter in lane maxing w is problebly the best way to go. w then 2 autos q then 2 autos w then 2 autos is 3 sheen procs and a bunch of damage. Lich banes just makes it even stronger in the later game as if anybody wants to run past your tanky dps to get to you is going to each a 2 second taunt and worse case you can ult lichbanes proc, ult lichbanes proc, ult lichbanes proc.

On December 17 2011 01:25 Alaric wrote:
Uh, you would play Maokai like a full AP caster? I'd give him RoA and Abyssal at most, he's much better suited as a tanky heavy-hitter using triforce.
Also Ryze.

On December 17 2011 01:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:


The thing with building chalice when it's not necessary is that you delay your damage. Sure, you get some nice early MR and mana regen. But 2 D-rings gives you nice health, mana, and AP to boot. You get a bit of survivability and some power. With her low mana costs, you don't need the regen on chalice, so it's wasted money imo.

Going chalice reduces your early ganking power. She starts to be able to clear waves fairly early (not Morgana early) with maxing Q, so clearing waves and then going to gank is strong on her, especially with her high mobility. You want damage for ganks, not a bit of mana regen and MR that really only suits you for mid lane.