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Craton
United States17287 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
I don't know why you'd start Cloth Armor + 5 Pot on Rammus in the new jungle. He's perfectly fine with Boots + 3 Pot. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On December 21 2011 06:59 mordek wrote: Thanks. I almost exclusively jungled him (old jungle) and always went Madred's/Boots into Wriggle's and Wit's and it varies from there. Basically your sustain is coming from being able to Q over and over and never die as opposed to lifesteal from attack speed? Doran Ring is pretty solid for early laning, yes. It has deceptively long range and lets you trade well in lane. I just don't like it because you should be able to farm 900 for Chalice pretty easily and I don't like dead items, but I've seen people open DRing. But yeah - when you're jungling you have to run AS + arpen runes and wriggles to keep up in clear speed, but you don't need those in lane and you can rush Wit's End for damage. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On December 21 2011 06:59 SnK-Arcbound wrote: how you play. Also what happened to all the european teams? They just disappeared off the map. Not sure about others but Ocelote just announced on stream today Snoopeh left for other opportunities. Some EU news if it interests you  | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On December 21 2011 06:50 mordek wrote: Any thoughts on Gman's lanewick with a doran's ring opening? Just seems odd as an autoattack champ but I guess Q is low cd relatively. He gets Sorc boots, Wit's End, Glacial -> Frozen Heart. Sometimes Chalice against AP lane. Is it more a team comp thing? And what is weird in that, except the Sorc shoes ? It's the standard build on WW oO | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:04 mordek wrote: Not sure about others but Ocelote just announced on stream today Snoopeh left for other opportunities. Some EU news if it interests you Snoopeh joined AL EU which then merged to be CLG EU | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:04 mordek wrote: Not sure about others but Ocelote just announced on stream today Snoopeh left for other opportunities. Some EU news if it interests you Snoopeh joined Wick'd team (AL), which is now CLG eu http://www.clgaming.eu/news/527/AbsoluteLegends-is-merging-with-Counter-Logic-Gaming | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:04 mr_tolkien wrote: And what is weird in that, except the Sorc shoes ? It's the standard build on WW oO The boots, the ring. Wit's End is very standard, but some people get Sunfire Cape as their first defensive item. I was more looking for reasons why he chose what he did so I know when to take that route in game. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:02 Seuss wrote: Rammus Champion Spotlight is up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeU2b9s-ZVw I don't know why you'd start Cloth Armor + 5 Pot on Rammus in the new jungle. He's perfectly fine with Boots + 3 Pot. You clear faster and safer with more hp, and with powerball you don't need boots to gank. The difference between 650 and 700 movement speed is negligable at those movement speeds. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:09 mordek wrote: The boots, the ring. Wit's End is very standard, but some people get Sunfire Cape as their first defensive item. I was more looking for reasons why he chose what he did so I know when to take that route in game. Mana gives you stupid sustain and harass, health allows you to be tankier, as you'll restore to full life very fast, and AP is always welcome. Funfire is just bad on WW as it gives nothing interesting regarding his abilities, compared to Frozen Heart who gives mana and CDR. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:09 mordek wrote: The boots, the ring. Wit's End is very standard, but some people get Sunfire Cape as their first defensive item. I was more looking for reasons why he chose what he did so I know when to take that route in game. Your standard build will be Wit's End, Merc Threads, Glacial/FH, Spirit Visage, and two additional items. One of these is usually a Chalice, which you can sell late game. Triforce is the best damage item, and you have a lot of options for defense (Aegis, Randuins, GA, but probably not warmog). If you have Chalice+Wit's already, then Glacial makes more sense than spirit visage. The CDR you get will give you more damage and sustain than Sunfire would. (Sunfire is a pretty bad item in general.) As for boots - you get Merc Threads vast majority of time. I see very few circumstances where you can get away with Sorc Boots. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:10 SnK-Arcbound wrote: You clear faster and safer with more hp, and with powerball you don't need boots to gank. The difference between 650 and 700 movement speed is negligable at those movement speeds. I can't imagine why you would need 5 pots. I have been opening Vamp Sceptre and the only time I dip below like 85% health is on the small golems if I let them both wail on me for a while. Seriously, Rammus is so strong and fast in the new jungle that sometimes I don't even build that Vamp into Wriggles. If I get FB or a couple early kills/assists I skip it and go straight into my Randuins. The vamp scepter plus the healing sigils is all the sustain I have ever needed. I feel like all five of those pots would just sit in my inventory the whole game. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:14 Sandster wrote: Your standard build will be Wit's End, Merc Threads, Glacial/FH, Spirit Visage, and two additional items. One of these is usually a Chalice, which you can sell late game. Triforce is the best damage item, and you have a lot of options for defense (Aegis, Randuins, GA, but probably not warmog). If you have Chalice+Wit's already, then Glacial makes more sense than spirit visage. The CDR you get will give you more damage and sustain than Sunfire would. (Sunfire is a pretty bad item in general.) As for boots - you get Merc Threads vast majority of time. I see very few circumstances where you can get away with Sorc Boots. I never built it on him but saw it on stream today. I appreciate all the feedback  For the record I normally end a game with Wriggle's, Mercs, Wits, Aegis, Frozen, dmg or def item depending. Just never thought Dring or Sorcs made sense but I guess he was mid. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:17 Terranasaur wrote: I can't imagine why you would need 5 pots. I have been opening Vamp Sceptre and the only time I dip below like 85% health is on the small golems if I let them both wail on me for a while. Seriously, Rammus is so strong and fast in the new jungle that sometimes I don't even build that Vamp into Wriggles. If I get FB or a couple early kills/assists I skip it and go straight into my Randuins. The vamp scepter plus the healing sigils is all the sustain I have ever needed. I feel like all five of those pots would just sit in my inventory the whole game. Erm,the standard rammus opening right now is regrowth 1 pot as far as I know.At least that's what I do. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:18 TheKefka wrote: Erm,the standard rammus opening right now is regrowth 1 pot as far as I know.At least that's what I do. I'll have to try that one. I imagine that build skips wriggles entirely and goes straight to randuins. Wriggles for me is really situational these days. It really speeds up clearing the buff bosses and I won't try early dragons without it if my team is punks and don't like to help. Randuins is pretty much the only "every game" item I get on Rammus these days. I think there is potential in an opening that leads right into it. | ||
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On December 21 2011 07:10 SnK-Arcbound wrote: You clear faster and safer with more hp, and with powerball you don't need boots to gank. The difference between 650 and 700 movement speed is negligable at those movement speeds. both those starts are noob regen (or renewal or whatever its called) + 1pot = ownz oh someone posted it lol | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:26 Terranasaur wrote: I'll have to try that one. I imagine that build skips wriggles entirely and goes straight to randuins. Wriggles for me is really situational these days. It really speeds up clearing the buff bosses and I won't try early dragons without it if my team is punks and don't like to help. Randuins is pretty much the only "every game" item I get on Rammus these days. I think there is potential in an opening that leads right into it. regrowth doesn't build into Randuin's, it's rejuv. I thought the regrowth was for a philo stone. | ||
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