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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 09:09:38
December 03 2011 09:08 GMT
#1581
On December 03 2011 18:07 overt wrote:
I just wanted to clarify that DotA2's obs mode is entirely what happens when a giant company that's amazing at making games like Valve is publishing your game. Has little to do with IceFrog and I don't think comparisons to LoL are that fair. Riot is basically an infant compared to Valve.

But yes, SourceTV is obviously better than a beta Spec mode made by a new company for a game that was released without Spec mode.

Valve had a lot more money to throw at the game than Riot did when the two games were being created. LoL has suffered from having a poor underlying infrastructure for quite some time because they opted for an easier/cheaper method due to their budget.
twitch.tv/cratonz
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 03 2011 09:30 GMT
#1582
Valve having more financial backing and DotA being older doesn't detract to the fact that LoL's obs mode is subpar compared to what's out there. There is absolutely no problem with making such a statement.

Frankly, Craton, you need to stop having these kind of kneejerk reactions in GD. How you managed to get
His post was literally nothing more than fanboying about how great Dota 2 is: "GUYS, I JUST FINISHED DOTA 2 AND THE OBS MODE IS THE BEST THING EVER CREATED." Fantastic. Not related to this game at all.

from r.Evo's comments is simply amazing. I probably toot Riot's horn more than anyone else on this subforum and r.Evo didn't rub me the wrong way.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 09:40:03
December 03 2011 09:34 GMT
#1583
On December 03 2011 18:07 overt wrote:
I just wanted to clarify that DotA2's obs mode is entirely what happens when a giant company that's amazing at making games like Valve is publishing your game. Has little to do with IceFrog and I don't think comparisons to LoL are that fair. Riot is basically an infant compared to Valve.

But yes, SourceTV is obviously better than a beta Spec mode made by a new company for a game that was released without Spec mode.

The problem isn't the company. The problem is that RIot needed the game to launch as fast as humanly possible to fill a spot that was missing ie the "casual moba". So they have this incredibly rushed and bad client to work with (Yes even people at Riot says that it's a complete and utter nightmare to work with.) And as someone that has worked with shitty and great clients I can tell you it makes a world of difference. So before they can do ANYTHING really they have to rewrite their entire client.


And Dota 2s spectator mode is so fucking fantastic I want to make love to the man that made it. Seriously after having to deal with shit like lolreplay...
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 09:45:11
December 03 2011 09:44 GMT
#1584
So what do people like to ban these days? I usually get rid of kennen tryndamere yorick, I actually hate fiddle more than yorick but he's not really getting played with new jungle
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 03 2011 09:46 GMT
#1585
Ban all supports and cheese your bot lane.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 03 2011 09:47 GMT
#1586
On December 03 2011 18:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
So what do people like to ban these days? I usually get rid of kennen tryndamere yorick, I actually hate fiddle more than yorick but he's not really getting played with new jungle

Morgana, Kassadin and Sion perma banned
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 03 2011 09:48 GMT
#1587
On December 03 2011 18:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
So what do people like to ban these days? I usually get rid of kennen tryndamere yorick, I actually hate fiddle more than yorick but he's not really getting played with new jungle


Sion Morg
Trynd Yorick
Shaco Rammus Fiddle
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 03 2011 10:17 GMT
#1588
I like to ban all the good junglers at the moment.

Shy,skarner,LeeSin,Shaco,Rammus. Though I try to make sure I can get the Rammus.

On an unrelated note. Why do people insist on trying to save me when 5 people top dive me at a tower? I mean it makes me feel good but I really wish they'd just push a lane and take towers or somesuch instead of trying to be hero's. I feel all of these problems could be solved if I could carry in the jungle like I could prepatch but alas they made that really hard without playing farm all deh lanes.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 03 2011 10:20 GMT
#1589
Surprised you ban all the "good junglers" and leave amumu open. With failed ganks having a much higher impact amumu is great since he can easily get a doublekill botlane with his ult.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
December 03 2011 10:21 GMT
#1590
you think that if a youtube caster cut down on the game and just pieced togeather the ganks and teamfights that happened in a game would that be accepted by fans so you can have a -20 minute youtube that people can now watch in a nice small sitting like sc2?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
December 03 2011 10:21 GMT
#1591
REAL TALK: This forum is getting too many posters like Craton, not enough posters like unichan v^_^
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 10:26:58
December 03 2011 10:26 GMT
#1592
On December 03 2011 19:20 JackDino wrote:
Surprised you ban all the "good junglers" and leave amumu open. With failed ganks having a much higher impact amumu is great since he can easily get a doublekill botlane with his ult.


You know, my problem with mummy is that he has to hit 6 to get that big aoe ult. So he farms till 6minuites or so(more likely 7-8 I havn't ran him post patch) and I feel mummy is countered just by proper warding. Honestly though I just don't feel he's as big of a threat as he's often made out to be what with clense changes.

And suddenly I realize why Oddone buys so many wards. Not because he wants to but because he's the only one who will..woah.
*mind blown*

Also, I need better idea's for my Jungle Tristana. I opened cloth/5pot but I still didn't quit feel fast enough even going my noct page of armorpen/armor/attackspeed. It was success but I felt like I could improve. I've tried Dorans blade it's also okay. Vamp sceptre perhaps with much more attackspeed runes? *ponder*

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 03 2011 10:28 GMT
#1593
If your lanes can't survive on their own in 6minutes they need to l2p, and when they try to ward everything so you can't gank(requires 3 wards) you can just do dragon and kill them when they come, just be ready for it.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 03 2011 10:33 GMT
#1594
I don't know what you play but where I play by six minutes a lanes normally fed/lost or barely hanging on. Rarely neutral. Then again I've started making a tally of bad/good bot lanes for this month just to amuse myself. I wish I was joking.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 11:07:05
December 03 2011 10:34 GMT
#1595
If your lane has fed/lost(dying once doesn't count as feeding) before the 6minute mark than chances are that your gank won't do anything since they're just terrible. I do know what you mean tho, happens far too often.
Besides, it's not like you can't gank pre6, being 6 just gives you a very high chance @ doublekill+drag which is great gold especially with the new jungle.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
December 03 2011 11:12 GMT
#1596
On December 03 2011 19:21 dnastyx wrote:
REAL TALK: This forum is getting too many posters like Craton, not enough posters like unichan v^_^


You mean the rest of us need to gush about Pobelter more?
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
December 03 2011 11:16 GMT
#1597
Pobelter is a cutie :3

wait wait he's underage

also I have a girlfriend


fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 03 2011 11:28 GMT
#1598
On December 03 2011 19:21 dnastyx wrote:
REAL TALK: This forum is getting too many posters like Craton, not enough posters like unichan v^_^

Dynastyx you have to stop making posts I agree with. It hurts my feelings deeply.
The legend of Darien lives on
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 11:38:37
December 03 2011 11:38 GMT
#1599
On December 03 2011 19:21 dnastyx wrote:
REAL TALK: This forum is getting too many posters like Craton, not enough posters like unichan v^_^


I think you act all sexist now.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 03 2011 11:40 GMT
#1600
Rough data on "banking" as it's implemented on the PBE.

Banking caps don't appear to scale over time. So banking at 6 minutes yield identical rewards to banking at 26 minutes.

It's really freaking late so I didn't have the time to do a fully thorough check on everything, but here's a few values;

Max Wraith Gold Bank: 4g
Max Wraith Exp Bank: 32 exp
Max Golem Gold Bank: 2g
Max Golem Exp Bank: 30 exp

If someone else on the PBE could double check and verify that would be helpful.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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