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Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 07:48:07
December 03 2011 07:47 GMT
#1561
DOTA 2's observer mode is absolutely beast, but that shouldn't really be a surprise considering it's Valve who had a better observer mode for CS in 2001 than most games have now. The fact that there are games released even now without observer modes (LoL, MvC3) is really sad.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 07:57:15
December 03 2011 07:51 GMT
#1562
On December 03 2011 16:24 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 16:21 Craton wrote:
Dota 2 forum is that way --->


Actually its <<<<<-- that way, however stop being a douche when I mention a SPECIFIC FEATURE that is PERFECTLY integrated in another game named [CENSORED] when it's riot declared goal since about one year to implement that.


I'd say it's pretty damn relevant to look at how features are done in other games.

Your post has absolutely nothing to do with LoL. There was no comparison being drawn, no "LoL should incorporate this," etc. There's a Dota 2 forum for a reason. If we want to go read about Dota 2 features, we can go find them in the appropriate subforum. I'd rather not have it shoved down my throat any more than it already is.
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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 08:02:03
December 03 2011 07:58 GMT
#1563
Dude, you post Korean Music Discussion and you're complaining about the quality of threads.

Sorry that he got excited about a feature in a new game he was trying and wanted to share it with a community he regularly talks to...?

Not to mention, his post actually does deal with LoL, he just put it in an edit. Oh, should he not have mentioned Skyrim because TL has a Skyrim thread? I don't understand why you have such a vitriolic response to a pretty harmless statement.

And look, even to make you happy to bring it back to LoL, which you could have done instead of wasting more posts, I'll say that LoL's spectator mode is mediocre at best in comparison to its competitors. Worse than HoN's, worse than DoTA 2's by a mile. It presents less information, in a clunkier way. After waiting so long for observer mode (and replays), I'm honestly anything but impressed.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
December 03 2011 08:00 GMT
#1564
i think TL should just be one big thread
:)
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
December 03 2011 08:02 GMT
#1565
and every post should be by unichan!
Brees on in
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 08:14:52
December 03 2011 08:13 GMT
#1566
On December 03 2011 16:58 dnastyx wrote:
Dude, you post Korean Music Discussion and you're complaining about the quality of threads.

Sorry that he got excited about a feature in a new game he was trying and wanted to share it with a community he regularly talks to...?

Not to mention, his post actually does deal with LoL, he just put it in an edit. Oh, should he not have mentioned Skyrim because TL has a Skyrim thread? I don't understand why you have such a vitriolic response to a pretty harmless statement.

And look, even to make you happy to bring it back to LoL, which you could have done instead of wasting more posts, I'll say that LoL's spectator mode is mediocre at best in comparison to its competitors. Worse than HoN's, worse than DoTA 2's by a mile. It presents less information, in a clunkier way. After waiting so long for observer mode (and replays), I'm honestly anything but impressed.

If he were to come and talk about how great e.g. Skyrim's interface is, then yes, he should not be posting it here. If he were to say LoL should incorporate Skyrim's killcams or something because of whatever reason then it would be fine because there would at least be some relevance to LoL.
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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 08:18:00
December 03 2011 08:16 GMT
#1567
On December 03 2011 17:13 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 16:58 dnastyx wrote:
Dude, you post Korean Music Discussion and you're complaining about the quality of threads.

Sorry that he got excited about a feature in a new game he was trying and wanted to share it with a community he regularly talks to...?

Not to mention, his post actually does deal with LoL, he just put it in an edit. Oh, should he not have mentioned Skyrim because TL has a Skyrim thread? I don't understand why you have such a vitriolic response to a pretty harmless statement.

And look, even to make you happy to bring it back to LoL, which you could have done instead of wasting more posts, I'll say that LoL's spectator mode is mediocre at best in comparison to its competitors. Worse than HoN's, worse than DoTA 2's by a mile. It presents less information, in a clunkier way. After waiting so long for observer mode (and replays), I'm honestly anything but impressed.

If he were to come and talk about how great e.g. Skyrim's interface is, then yes, he should not be posting it here. If he were to say LoL should incorporate Skyrim's killcams or something because of whatever reason then it would be fine because there would at least be some relevance to LoL.


Your post has nothing to do with LoL please stay on topic B)

EDIT: No seriously I gave you an out to actually discuss something useful so stop being so mad brah

EDIT 2: Maybe you didn't see it because you were too mad or something so here I will repost it

And look, even to make you happy to bring it back to LoL, which you could have done instead of wasting more posts, I'll say that LoL's spectator mode is mediocre at best in comparison to its competitors. Worse than HoN's, worse than DoTA 2's by a mile. It presents less information, in a clunkier way. After waiting so long for observer mode (and replays), I'm honestly anything but impressed
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
December 03 2011 08:17 GMT
#1568
I'm sorry I don't want unrelated things like Dota 2 forced down my throat?
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 08:27:56
December 03 2011 08:18 GMT
#1569
On December 03 2011 16:51 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 16:24 r.Evo wrote:
On December 03 2011 16:21 Craton wrote:
Dota 2 forum is that way --->


Actually its <<<<<-- that way, however stop being a douche when I mention a SPECIFIC FEATURE that is PERFECTLY integrated in another game named [CENSORED] when it's riot declared goal since about one year to implement that.


I'd say it's pretty damn relevant to look at how features are done in other games.

Your post has absolutely nothing to do with LoL. There was no comparison being drawn, no "LoL should incorporate this," etc. There's a Dota 2 forum for a reason. If we want to go read about Dota 2 features, we can go find them in the appropriate subforum. I'd rather not have it shoved down my throat any more than it already is.


I'd hereby would like to apologize that I insulted your intelligence by assuming you would draw the conclusion that me talking about an observer mode in a pretty similar game in the LoL subforum might hint at me making an actual comparision to a feature that is soon (tm) to be implemented in our beloved game. I'll do it right this time.



Another feature I freshly found in DotA 2 that I would LOVE being incorperated in LoL (I'm not sure if it's currently only in because it's beta and I'm also not sure what they do to prevent abuse of it):

Team A vs Team B

Player X in Team B leaves the game.


After a set amount of time the hero played by X can be controlled by everyone on his team and all of his team members are free to leave the game without penatly. Only the original leaver gets his game counted as "Leaver" for his overall stats. Team A however gets fully acreddited with the win.


Disclaimer: Please note that this is NOT intended as LoL vs DotA, I'm merely pointing out a single feature that (imho) is done better in one of the competitor games to LoL.



Edit:
@Craton. If you'd care about this thread staying on topic you'd take the thread back to topic. However you seem to care more about bitching because of some personal grudge against a word being mentioned in our posts. You neither answered to me asking for help for my LEAGUE OF LEGENDS stream thread, nor took into consideration that the feature I'm talking about has been announced by riot for LEAGUE OF LEGENDS for about a year. You refuse to take dynstyx's bait by explicitly comparing the (beta) LoL observer mode to other games. Then you post again to tell us what you want down your throat and what not. - Since I'm not sure if it counts as backseat moderating (does it?) I can't really tell you to stop derailing our thread. However, for now I can tell you that I don't want unrelated things forced down my throat like what you want forced down your throat and what not.


Edit 2: Did anyone find an official ETA on the jungle hotfix yet? =S
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 03 2011 08:39 GMT
#1570
r.Evo isn't in the wrong here. I'm personally ok with LoL vs DotA posts as long as it carries critical, analytical comparisons. If we're talking about Spec Mode, why not compare what we have (beta mode or not) with what DotA2 has out already? That is hardly cramming anything down your throat, Craton.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 08:46:50
December 03 2011 08:45 GMT
#1571
He wasn't comparing anything. I've already stated my position several times that I'm fine with actual, meaningful comparisons.

His post was literally nothing more than fanboying about how great Dota 2 is: "GUYS, I JUST FINISHED DOTA 2 AND THE OBS MODE IS THE BEST THING EVER CREATED." Fantastic. Not related to this game at all.
twitch.tv/cratonz
jondigweed
Profile Joined January 2011
6 Posts
December 03 2011 08:47 GMT
#1572
Can't reach Plat for the life of me. Stuck in the 1600s. Super frustrating l0l.

unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
December 03 2011 08:48 GMT
#1573
set some more short term goals first... 1600s to plat is a helluva long way
:)
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 03 2011 08:51 GMT
#1574
On December 03 2011 17:45 Craton wrote:
He wasn't comparing anything. I've already stated my position several times that I'm fine with actual, meaningful comparisons.

His post was literally nothing more than fanboying about how great Dota 2 is: "GUYS, I JUST FINISHED DOTA 2 AND THE OBS MODE IS THE BEST THING EVER CREATED." Fantastic. Not related to this game at all.

Except that it is related, simply because there is an obs mode in both games, and that Riot's is in beta and therefore likely looking for ways to improve. There is a very obvious implicit comparison there.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
December 03 2011 08:51 GMT
#1575
On December 03 2011 17:47 jondigweed wrote:
Can't reach Plat for the life of me. Stuck in the 1600s. Super frustrating l0l

No sense worrying about reaching plat till the end of the season. 1700s was top 1.5% a week or two ago, so plat is probably top .5% or less.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 03 2011 08:51 GMT
#1576
I feel so hipster watching locodocos stream
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
December 03 2011 08:57 GMT
#1577
On December 03 2011 17:45 Craton wrote:
He wasn't comparing anything. I've already stated my position several times that I'm fine with actual, meaningful comparisons.

His post was literally nothing more than fanboying about how great Dota 2 is: "GUYS, I JUST FINISHED DOTA 2 AND THE OBS MODE IS THE BEST THING EVER CREATED." Fantastic. Not related to this game at all.


Are you ever going to respond to the post where I actually made a comparison instead of getting really mad about one post

I will quote it again and give you yet another chance to respond to it!

And look, even to make you happy to bring it back to LoL, which you could have done instead of wasting more posts, I'll say that LoL's spectator mode is mediocre at best in comparison to its competitors. Worse than HoN's, worse than DoTA 2's by a mile. It presents less information, in a clunkier way. After waiting so long for observer mode (and replays), I'm honestly anything but impressed.


@ r.Evo about jungle hotfix:

Edit 2: Did anyone find an official ETA on the jungle hotfix yet? =S


It's out on PBE, but no word so far.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
December 03 2011 08:58 GMT
#1578
On December 03 2011 17:57 dnastyx wrote:
Are you ever going to respond to the post where I actually made a comparison instead of getting really mad about one post

On December 03 2011 17:45 Craton wrote:
I've already stated my position several times that I'm fine with actual, meaningful comparisons.

See above.
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 03 2011 09:07 GMT
#1579
I just wanted to clarify that DotA2's obs mode is entirely what happens when a giant company that's amazing at making games like Valve is publishing your game. Has little to do with IceFrog and I don't think comparisons to LoL are that fair. Riot is basically an infant compared to Valve.

But yes, SourceTV is obviously better than a beta Spec mode made by a new company for a game that was released without Spec mode.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 03 2011 09:07 GMT
#1580
dota 2 is a pretty fun game. I think every1 here should try it. It's got heroes and spells and stuff, and it's pretty similar to this game, i think most ppl here would like it a lot. it also has some really great features, like a spectator mode that comes with release!
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
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