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Use the QQ thread.
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Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 04 2011 04:56 GMT
#2001
On December 04 2011 13:53 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 13:41 Koenig99 wrote:
So is the hotfix live? Didn't have to download anything when i just logged in....

It's live. Riot now has the tech to develop small patches without requiring a download. Still trying to find a way to release major patches without any server downtime but that's still in the distant future...


Ah ok, cool stuff.
SafeWord
Profile Joined February 2010
United States522 Posts
December 04 2011 05:08 GMT
#2002
When did it go live?
Who needs players when you have God?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 04 2011 05:08 GMT
#2003
On December 04 2011 13:14 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 13:08 tobi9999 wrote:
Chaox laughing at Chauster for thinking ignite > exhaust on trist l0l

also, anyone remember hotshots random ass call for a 16 minute baron when they were 1 down?


It's the other way around :D. Chaox goes ignite on Trist himself while Chauster/rest of CLG is going on Doublelift for not going exhaust.


Ignite on Trist is for winning lane. Exhaust is for late game.

So it depends on what your team is trying to do. I wasn't there for the conversation so if CLG was building a late game comp then I'd agree with them that Exhuast > Ignite on Tristana.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 04 2011 05:12 GMT
#2004
i run exhaust on trist especially in solo queue

flash + W + exhaust + ult = no melee dps problem + massive range makes it super easy to find a spot to stand melt everything
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
December 04 2011 05:21 GMT
#2005
On December 04 2011 13:53 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 13:41 Koenig99 wrote:
So is the hotfix live? Didn't have to download anything when i just logged in....

It's live. Riot now has the tech to develop small patches without requiring a download. Still trying to find a way to release major patches without any server downtime but that's still in the distant future...

Damn it's cool having our very own Wrenchman to help out with answers like this. You rule Moonbear!!
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 05:26:59
December 04 2011 05:25 GMT
#2006
Just played a game as jungle Udyr and kept track of some of my numbers.

I hit level 4 at 3:31, probably could have gone faster with offensive masteries and some help at blue/wolves, but my team wasn't very cooperative.

I hit 6 at 7:34. I had 1 failed gank and their jungle took my big wraith and 2 small wraiths, but I probably leached a little xp from lane. I also had ~1430 gold saved up at this point, exclusively from jungle creeps.

I never needed to go back, Udyr can still sustain himself completely in the jungle, even with a boots/3 start.

Seems pretty good, about where I was before the jungle change. I never really let my creeps 'bank' so I am not sure how well that system works.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 05:34:17
December 04 2011 05:32 GMT
#2007
Well AOE clearer jungles never really had an issue in the new jungle. Its been the single target jungles that have slowed done a bunch. I wouldn't expect numbers to be very different as a result.

I would be much more interested in how times differ with champs like yi or olaf right now. Or even more extreme on the single target dps how the leveling/clear times with someone like trundle are.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 04 2011 05:41 GMT
#2008
Played a test run threw with master yi just trying to rush six via only the jungle. Opened cloth pots just so I could keep farming without having to pick up meditate. To be honest I didn't notice much of a change. I will note that I hit six around 7:20-7:30 but I had particularly solid procs.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 04 2011 05:44 GMT
#2009
Well it's fucking retarded because they did shit such as nerf wriggles and razor to "accommodate for single target junglers." WTF? They're the SLOW junglers and get razor so they can keep up with clearing camps without getting fucked up the ass. Who cares if the big creep gives the most xp/gold, you still need to use up a lot of your single target dps to kill the small ones so that the camp will respawn.
Riot seriously has no clue what they're doing sometimes.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 04 2011 05:44 GMT
#2010
Before this hotfix, killing Double Golem, Wraiths and Wolves yielded 183 gold at 20 minutes. Now it yields 187 gold.

I just tested this. Best hotfix. Gunna take a break for awhile. This new jungle has really set me off from wanting to play. Luckily, I got an invite to DOTA2 so will play that for a bit.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
December 04 2011 05:51 GMT
#2011
On December 04 2011 14:44 Cixah wrote:
Before this hotfix, killing Double Golem, Wraiths and Wolves yielded 183 gold at 20 minutes. Now it yields 187 gold.

I just tested this. Best hotfix. Gunna take a break for awhile. This new jungle has really set me off from wanting to play. Luckily, I got an invite to DOTA2 so will play that for a bit.


If this is true I will actually take a break from jungling for a while...
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
December 04 2011 05:59 GMT
#2012
I haven't played SR in a couple days out of spite. I'm sticking to Dominion until they either get their shit together or I get some DOTA2.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 06:07:30
December 04 2011 06:04 GMT
#2013
On December 04 2011 14:32 BloodNinja wrote:
I would be much more interested in how times differ with champs like yi or olaf right now. Or even more extreme on the single target dps how the leveling/clear times with someone like trundle are.

Yi and Olaf are for all intents and purposes AoE junglers in the new jungle, seeing as Alpha and Undertow wreck the small camps.

On December 04 2011 13:41 infinitestory wrote:
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On December 04 2011 13:34 Craton wrote:
The numbers for the mechanic seem trivial and don't appear like they'll actually give the jungle the buff it needs. People with nonetheless think it's better because the original jungle 0.2 is just that bad, so Riot's psychological ploy of releasing something completely garbage and then replacing it with something slightly better to make people more receptive will have worked.

no, it's just that riot has already experienced the dangers of making large buffs/nerfs

The fact that the jungle remake made it live in the first place indicates otherwise.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 04 2011 06:04 GMT
#2014
I was really hoping dat banking thing would something akin to DotA2 levels of camp stacking. But lolnope. 4 more gold after 2 minutes yay! Only junglers worth playing are the aoe junglers like udyr/skarner+shaco cause doublebuff gank at lvl 2-3 before 2:30 is OP. everything else is too shit slow.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17297 Posts
December 04 2011 06:10 GMT
#2015
yep

from 21 strong junglers to like 4.
twitch.tv/cratonz
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
December 04 2011 06:17 GMT
#2016
"I don't think there is any other 19 year old as mature as me."

- Reginald
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 04 2011 06:20 GMT
#2017
On December 04 2011 15:17 NSANE.hydra wrote:
"I don't think there is any other 19 year old as mature as me."

- Reginald


- are you kidding me? i did hella drugs, i have done every drug
except, cocaine, and meth, and ecstasy, and acid, and heroine, oh wait and marijuana.
nevermind i don't do drugs
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 06:24:28
December 04 2011 06:24 GMT
#2018
On December 04 2011 15:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 14:32 BloodNinja wrote:
I would be much more interested in how times differ with champs like yi or olaf right now. Or even more extreme on the single target dps how the leveling/clear times with someone like trundle are.

Yi and Olaf are for all intents and purposes AoE junglers in the new jungle, seeing as Alpha and Undertow wreck the small camps.



That is also why I brought up Trundle. I realized that both Yi/Olaf had an AOE compenent already (even if its rng based for yi).
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
December 04 2011 06:24 GMT
#2019
I still feel Skarnar is one of the fastest junglers in the new jungle. I can hit lvl 4 at 3:30 even with no leashes, and with leash it's faster.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 04 2011 06:52 GMT
#2020
On December 04 2011 11:58 gtrsrs wrote:
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