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On November 22 2011 10:31 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 08:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
The main problem is that AP is EXPENSIVE. Its much cheaper to just get pen and do more damage based off your base damages. The other problem is that LB already falls off quite da bit late, so trading early game for extra power doenst really make sense for her. If you are super fed, A fast deathcap makes a ton of sense. Otherwise delaying incremental power for a big burst that isnt going to come until too late doenst make a lot of sense. I don't follow. For 2.2k you could get a Void Staff, which is 70 AP and 40% Magic Penetration. For the same amount of money you could get a Needlessly Large Rod and a Blasting Wand, which is 120 AP. Using Leblanc's Q for comparison, the two AP items will give you more damage unless your target has more than 70 magic resistance (assuming Sorcerer's Shoes, Arcane Knowledge and MPen Reds).
Well, I shoud qualify. When I play leblanc, I never rush void staff because its a shit item unless they have lots of mr, as you point out. However, it is generally better to grab sorcs and drings over, say boots and a NLR rush, since a little bit of hp and flat mpen is much better than just chunking on a lot of ap that will realistically force you to combo once then go back cuz you are oom.
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On November 22 2011 06:46 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 06:11 mnvr wrote:
Hey MoonBear, is this a known bug or is just me:
My masteries and rune pages never go to what I choose during hero select.
I pick my AP Rune and Mastery page, and start with 67 (or something) AD every game...
It's not so bad when I play AD heroes I guess, but it fucks up my AP picks.
I'm gonna take screenshots next game if you need to see it. Do a Client Repair (instructions are in my Tech Thread, Part 4). If that doesn't work, PM me and we'll take it from there.
WARNING: If you have custom recommended items this will wipe them out (I found out the hard way, CURSE YOU MOONBEAR!!).
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k ready to admit I have a problem.
ever since shyvanna patch cannot CS at all. Im straight up struggling to hit 150 at 20 minutes and it basically doesnt happen without a farming spell. still ending games very positive and winning ranked games but I just can't farm.
not sure what I can do at this point just to get back to where I was a few weeks ago which was a level I was at least comfortable with. kind of distressing to be honest.
currently taking suggestions.
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On November 22 2011 10:52 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 06:46 MoonBear wrote:On November 22 2011 06:11 mnvr wrote:
Hey MoonBear, is this a known bug or is just me:
My masteries and rune pages never go to what I choose during hero select.
I pick my AP Rune and Mastery page, and start with 67 (or something) AD every game...
It's not so bad when I play AD heroes I guess, but it fucks up my AP picks.
I'm gonna take screenshots next game if you need to see it. Do a Client Repair (instructions are in my Tech Thread, Part 4). If that doesn't work, PM me and we'll take it from there. WARNING: If you have custom recommended items this will wipe them out (I found out the hard way, CURSE YOU MOONBEAR!!).
Just back up your custom item folders!
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United States13132 Posts
Practice last hitting in customs to get your CSing where you want it. Once you can get 100% of CS versus empty lane go into normals and see if you can keep that up while you play the game.
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There's also a bug with minion targeting, hopefully fixed soon.
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What's a good number to even aim for, CS wise?
I always feel like I'm doing awful when I miss 1 per wave, but then when I check I almost always have the most (unless I'm just getting out played and fully denied).
I've actually gone the custom route to practice now when I don't wanna ladder, lol.
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On November 22 2011 11:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Practice last hitting in customs to get your CSing where you want it. Once you can get 100% of CS versus empty lane go into normals and see if you can keep that up while you play the game.
well something has gone wrong in my mental skillset; I am hitting minions and my brain is registering "last hit" but it's not happening that way in game. this has never been a problem for me. I dont go up to the lane and feel like I got them all only to look back and see that I got none, Im actively missing minions that I could have sworn I hit properly and this is now happening frequently.
I think at this point my solution may be to play only dota for a while so I have to relearn the timing for league.
On November 22 2011 11:46 Pooshlmer wrote:
There's also a bug with minion targeting, hopefully fixed soon.
would this bug be where you click on a very low minion and your character attacks the one next to it with full health? because if so it would give me great relief to know that I havent all of a sudden developed the shakes or something.
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On November 22 2011 11:29 red_b wrote:
k ready to admit I have a problem.
ever since shyvanna patch cannot CS at all. Im straight up struggling to hit 150 at 20 minutes and it basically doesnt happen without a farming spell. still ending games very positive and winning ranked games but I just can't farm.
not sure what I can do at this point just to get back to where I was a few weeks ago which was a level I was at least comfortable with. kind of distressing to be honest.
currently taking suggestions.
Maybe you're just playing against better players now that don't let you freefarm. That's perfectly fine as long as you're denying them as well. If you're missing CS for no reason at all then it should really be obvious what you need to do, whether it be just practice last hitting itself if the animation is unfamiliar (new char), getting accustomed to hitting under tower, or something else that's just as easily correctable.
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I'm having trouble understanding what the big deal is here red_b. Creeps get low then you attack them, the cause of missing creeps will most likely be a. tower trolled you while you were pushed in or b. not being able to position for a creep because you fear that the opponent will harrass you and win the trade or fear that a jungler will most likely be in a position to gank you. It's even more alarming that your plan of action is to play a game where you are timing your attacks against someone denying you and harder attack animations. Maybe just keep playing LoL and things will click.
EDIT: Damn you Tien for being well mannered and beating me to a reply as well.
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Dyrus/Regi breaking out the double jungle blitz/ali. saint, doublelift, and xpecial also on the team.
edit: highly recommend, the amount of trolling in this vent is hilarious!!!!
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On November 22 2011 11:46 red_b wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 11:46 Pooshlmer wrote:
There's also a bug with minion targeting, hopefully fixed soon. would this bug be where you click on a very low minion and your character attacks the one next to it with full health? because if so it would give me great relief to know that I havent all of a sudden developed the shakes or something.
Ive noticed that as well. I just assumed I got much worse suddenly as no one else said anything about it.
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The troll is strong in mrgerry or TieN.nS).
Either that or they lack some reading comprehension, as their comments are irrelevant to red_b's apparent point: he is missing creep kills on targets he thought he was aiming at and timing properly. Given some of TieN.nS)'s previous posts, I have my suspicions.
Edit: Lol, found the posts I was remembering, and they happen to be responses to red_b as well. Perhaps I lack some history.
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On November 22 2011 12:05 Ryalnos wrote:
The troll is strong in mrgerry or TieN.nS).
Either that or they lack some reading comprehension, as their comments are irrelevant to red_b's apparent point: he is missing creep kills on targets he thought he was aiming at and timing properly. Given some of TieN.nS)'s previous posts, I have my suspicions.
Edit: Lol, found the posts I was remembering, and they happen to be responses to red_b as well. Perhaps I lack some history.
If you're missing cs for no reason at all with no pressure on you, there's nothing anybody can say to help you. It's not a difficult concept, you wait until the creep is low enough health that your attack will deal enough damage to finish it. What is there to say, watch your own creeps and see how much damage they do to have an idea of when you should hit it? Or do you think he doesn't know to stop/move to animation cancel if his attack is not going to get the last hit and (if early) not going to reset by the time the creep is within last hit range? If you're THAT bad at last hitting the only way to improve is by practicing it over and over until it's second nature.
And yeah, I trolled before because he posted some angry rant for no reason while acting like he was amazing and couldn't possibly improve, would be rank 1 if not for stupid team, etc. I'm nice 2 ppl that aren't jackasses~~
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On November 22 2011 11:46 red_b wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 11:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Practice last hitting in customs to get your CSing where you want it. Once you can get 100% of CS versus empty lane go into normals and see if you can keep that up while you play the game. well something has gone wrong in my mental skillset; I am hitting minions and my brain is registering "last hit" but it's not happening that way in game. this has never been a problem for me. I dont go up to the lane and feel like I got them all only to look back and see that I got none, Im actively missing minions that I could have sworn I hit properly and this is now happening frequently. I think at this point my solution may be to play only dota for a while so I have to relearn the timing for league. Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 11:46 Pooshlmer wrote:
There's also a bug with minion targeting, hopefully fixed soon. would this bug be where you click on a very low minion and your character attacks the one next to it with full health? because if so it would give me great relief to know that I havent all of a sudden developed the shakes or something.
I'm not sure exactly what problem you are describing, but I just want to point out that I once had a similar problem when I first started playing lol. It turned out to be a weird gfx issue: my gfx settings were too high for my noob gfx card that somehow (don't ask me how), everything I see is actually being delayed by abit. So when I see a low minion and try to last hit, it had actually already died at that point in time. Lowering my gfx settings made the problem magically disappear. Though for my case it seemed abit obvious after awhile that I was somehow "lagging" though not in the usual sense. Probably not the source of your problem but worth a try.
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Anyone who has recently found it more difficult to click on the correct minion since the patch can breath a sigh of relief. It's a confirmed bug that Riot is trying to fix, not you sucking.
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Just mouse scroll zoom, np.
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On November 22 2011 12:19 phyvo wrote:
Anyone who has recently found it more difficult to click on the correct minion since the patch can breath a sigh of relief. It's a confirmed bug that Riot is trying to fix, not you sucking.
Ya Soniv mentioned it to me the other day and I have been noticing it a bit as well. I think the hitbox overlap is fucked up or something. Of course, I can barely last hit anyway so it doesnt really matter.
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