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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 21 2011 23:03 GMT
#1521
The main problem is that AP is EXPENSIVE. Its much cheaper to just get pen and do more damage based off your base damages. The other problem is that LB already falls off quite da bit late, so trading early game for extra power doenst really make sense for her. If you are super fed, A fast deathcap makes a ton of sense. Otherwise delaying incremental power for a big burst that isnt going to come until too late doenst make a lot of sense.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 23:07:08
November 21 2011 23:06 GMT
#1522
On November 22 2011 07:56 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:45 Brees wrote:
elementz is really bad though. I've already said that to his face multiple times.


at least he earns money while roughly spending the same amount of time on League of Legends as you do


im better then him and make more money then him. Ill take it.


also you seem to quote my posts a lot, are you butthurt about something?
Brees on in
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 21 2011 23:08 GMT
#1523
On November 22 2011 07:58 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:22 Woony wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:17 Juicyfruit wrote:
Leblanc with the new offensive masteries is brokennnnnn


How so? I mean she doesn't benefit from AP any more than other AP carries, infact her scaling is pretty weak if you consider the overall picture.


0.9 Q, 0.6 W, 1 E, (1.26 / 0.84 / 1.4) R = 3.9 on full combo

Now I've never played Leblanc so maybe there's something I'm missing, but those are amazing AP ratios. Annie has like 2.1 on her full combo, for example. Splash is a big factor of course.

That's why I'm confused that I often see a Void Staff rush on Leblanc, it's not like her ratios are so bad that penetration yield more damage.


As we saw over the weekend if somebody silences you when you jump into the team...lol dead. When you hump your enemy to kill them it becomes incredibly risky to ever try to blow some one up.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 21 2011 23:10 GMT
#1524
Nhat's silence on regi's kass in the baron pit was the #1 play of MLG.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 21 2011 23:10 GMT
#1525
On November 22 2011 07:56 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:46 Haemonculus wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
Every girl I know that plays this game plays ashe, sona, lux, cait, and teemo. o.o
It's eerie as hell.
Even Rhav plays all of those except sona lolol.

Yah but I also play loads of other champs.

Basically any champ with a really obnoxious laugh will eventually be one of my mains.


you're also the only girl I know (actually play with) that's any good at this game lol :D

Kyuubicake is top 10 on arranged 5s and she carried herself and a bunch of other people there doing invite whoever arranged 5s.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 21 2011 23:12 GMT
#1526
On November 22 2011 08:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:56 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:46 Haemonculus wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
Every girl I know that plays this game plays ashe, sona, lux, cait, and teemo. o.o
It's eerie as hell.
Even Rhav plays all of those except sona lolol.

Yah but I also play loads of other champs.

Basically any champ with a really obnoxious laugh will eventually be one of my mains.


you're also the only girl I know (actually play with) that's any good at this game lol :D

Kyuubicake is top 10 on arranged 5s and she carried herself and a bunch of other people there doing invite whoever arranged 5s.

Watched her stream before. Pretty impressed with some of her plays.

Bombss isn't bad either.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 23:29:56
November 21 2011 23:28 GMT
#1527
On November 22 2011 08:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:56 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:46 Haemonculus wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
Every girl I know that plays this game plays ashe, sona, lux, cait, and teemo. o.o
It's eerie as hell.
Even Rhav plays all of those except sona lolol.

Yah but I also play loads of other champs.

Basically any champ with a really obnoxious laugh will eventually be one of my mains.


you're also the only girl I know (actually play with) that's any good at this game lol :D

Kyuubicake is top 10 on arranged 5s and she carried herself and a bunch of other people there doing invite whoever arranged 5s.


I said that I aka me aka BlackPaladin actually play with
what's her stream link? Is she chill like jiji when she plays?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
November 21 2011 23:33 GMT
#1528
That new TF skin scares me.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 21 2011 23:33 GMT
#1529
On November 22 2011 08:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 08:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:56 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:46 Haemonculus wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
Every girl I know that plays this game plays ashe, sona, lux, cait, and teemo. o.o
It's eerie as hell.
Even Rhav plays all of those except sona lolol.

Yah but I also play loads of other champs.

Basically any champ with a really obnoxious laugh will eventually be one of my mains.


you're also the only girl I know (actually play with) that's any good at this game lol :D

Kyuubicake is top 10 on arranged 5s and she carried herself and a bunch of other people there doing invite whoever arranged 5s.


I said that I aka me aka BlackPaladin actually play with
what's her stream link? Is she chill like jiji when she plays?


http://www.own3d.tv/live/162500/kyuubicake
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 00:09:44
November 22 2011 00:06 GMT
#1530
whine wups
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 22 2011 00:50 GMT
#1531
Loci 2k viewers, MLG aftermath OP.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 22 2011 00:55 GMT
#1532
On November 22 2011 09:50 Niton wrote:
Loci 2k viewers, MLG aftermath OP.


3k now, finally above the girl gamurs, go go loci
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 01:11:00
November 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#1533
On November 22 2011 09:55 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:50 Niton wrote:
Loci 2k viewers, MLG aftermath OP.


3k now, finally above the girl gamurs, go go loci


He was well above 2k after the tourney where Dignitas won it all (DH?). He didnt got HSGG numbers but he still averaged 2.5k when I saw it up.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 22 2011 01:10 GMT
#1534
On November 22 2011 08:06 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:56 freelander wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:45 Brees wrote:
elementz is really bad though. I've already said that to his face multiple times.


at least he earns money while roughly spending the same amount of time on League of Legends as you do


im better then him and make more money then him. Ill take it.


also you seem to quote my posts a lot, are you butthurt about something?


when did I quote you last time?

i don't remember
And all is illuminated.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 22 2011 01:15 GMT
#1535
On November 22 2011 10:09 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:55 taLbuk wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:50 Niton wrote:
Loci 2k viewers, MLG aftermath OP.


3k now, finally above the girl gamurs, go go loci


He was well above 2k after the tourney where Dignitas won it all (DH?). He didnt got HSGG numbers but he still averaged 2.5k when I saw it up.


IPL3 is when Loci was the ringer.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 01:16:46
November 22 2011 01:15 GMT
#1536
Oh shit Locicero gets CLG'd for his stream and now suddenly he's up to 3000 viewers.

On November 22 2011 09:50 Niton wrote:
Loci 2k viewers, MLG aftermath OP.

He got like 2k, then they all stopped watching him after a couple days. He was back down to the 200-300 range.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 01:37:41
November 22 2011 01:31 GMT
#1537
On November 22 2011 08:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
The main problem is that AP is EXPENSIVE. Its much cheaper to just get pen and do more damage based off your base damages. The other problem is that LB already falls off quite da bit late, so trading early game for extra power doenst really make sense for her. If you are super fed, A fast deathcap makes a ton of sense. Otherwise delaying incremental power for a big burst that isnt going to come until too late doenst make a lot of sense.


I don't follow. For 2.2k you could get a Void Staff, which is 70 AP and 40% Magic Penetration. For the same amount of money you could get a Needlessly Large Rod and a Blasting Wand, which is 120 AP.

Using Leblanc's Q for comparison, the two AP items will give you more damage unless your target has more than 70 magic resistance (assuming Sorcerer's Shoes, Arcane Knowledge and MPen Reds).
I am the Town Medic.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
November 22 2011 01:42 GMT
#1538
HIIII LOCIIII
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
November 22 2011 01:44 GMT
#1539
LB's ratios are not the reason why she drops off late game. It's just that her full combo is most effective in a 1v1 situation where you have the time to make use of her beastly combo w/o getting fucked. So the more often people hold hands the less effective leblanc becomes since the only safe combo you can pull off is a Q - R. So technically in solo q, leblanc is a late game beast =D
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
November 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#1540
On November 22 2011 10:44 mrgerry wrote:
LB's ratios are not the reason why she drops off late game. It's just that her full combo is most effective in a 1v1 situation where you have the time to make use of her beastly combo w/o getting fucked. So the more often people hold hands the less effective leblanc becomes since the only safe combo you can pull off is a Q - R. So technically in solo q, leblanc is a late game beast =D

Basically yeah. You may still have the burst potential to instagib one person on the enemy team, but when it's not a 1v1 situation, getting out alive is a lot harder. You're crazy squish.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
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