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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 21 2011 22:25 GMT
#1501
On November 22 2011 07:19 Frolossus wrote:
lol sion bug, should this go under the funny pics thread?
[image loading]

wtf.

-147 AP? 2.5 AS? what the... how?
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 21 2011 22:29 GMT
#1502
On November 22 2011 07:25 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:19 Frolossus wrote:
lol sion bug, should this go under the funny pics thread?
[image loading]

wtf.

-147 AP? 2.5 AS? what the... how?

when his E is on and you have a rageblade
rageblade stacks twice for every auto attack
then when the buff wears off you lose AP and AS
AP keeps going negative and AS caps at .200
at around -200 AP or so then something glitches and your AS jumps to 2.5
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 22:37:17
November 21 2011 22:37 GMT
#1503
On November 22 2011 07:29 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:25 Mogwai wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:19 Frolossus wrote:
lol sion bug, should this go under the funny pics thread?
[image loading]

wtf.

-147 AP? 2.5 AS? what the... how?

when his E is on and you have a rageblade
rageblade stacks twice for every auto attack
then when the buff wears off you lose AP and AS
AP keeps going negative and AS caps at .200
at around -200 AP or so then something glitches and your AS jumps to 2.5


looks like an underflow error to me. A similar thing happened way back in Kingdom of Loathing (if anyone remembers that game) where you could use an item called a Meat Vortex when you had no money to give yourself over 4 billion dollars.
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 21 2011 22:39 GMT
#1504
That'd be pretty funny if you engage when he hits for 0.2 attack speed though, and he runs to his turret. You think you can drive, and he comes back in a few seconds and just starts TRUCKING you.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 22:47:06
November 21 2011 22:40 GMT
#1505
On November 22 2011 07:22 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:17 Juicyfruit wrote:
Leblanc with the new offensive masteries is brokennnnnn


How so? I mean she doesn't benefit from AP any more than other AP carries, infact her scaling is pretty weak if you consider the overall picture.


Mostly because you had a character that can "almost" insta-gib you early game without really trying. Now you have a character that can definitely insta-gib you without trying.

Edit: I mean, if you consider Leblanc's MO, her usefulness is completely dependent on whether she can 1-shot people. If she can, she's terrifying; if she can't, she's bad. Being able to hit quite a bit harder (on both sides) tend to benefit her more often than not, because of her high range and silence, not to mention the new mastery options help her last-hitting with autos :>
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 21 2011 22:40 GMT
#1506
Anyone have any idea who would win the lane trynd vs irelia? I much fear its trynd
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 21 2011 22:41 GMT
#1507
On November 22 2011 02:38 BlackPaladin wrote:
Elementz is garbage. So I fully agree with Saint! :>

i see people say this kind of thing seriously sometimes. what is with the shit talking of pros on tl? Mediocre players who criticize the play of people who proven themselves in tournaments are only making themselves look stupid if all they've got is a one line dismissal, or worse, bullshit analysis like "I think X lacks the confidence to Y". If loci didn't post here i bet we'd see the same garbage about him, instead he's a member of the community so these same people would suck his butthole if he asked. It's internet tough guy syndrome, if you're about to talk a pro down imagine he were about to pm you about it.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 22:55:32
November 21 2011 22:45 GMT
#1508
Every girl I know that plays this game plays ashe, sona, lux, cait, and teemo. o.o
It's eerie as hell.
Even Rhav plays all of those except sona lolol.

edit:

@USnip

Yeah, I was mainly joking. Elementz isn't a bad player obviously, considering he plays on CLG as a main member and is a high level player himself. But when you're talking about pro players you're generally talking about their skill in comparison to other pro players. Elementz is the weakest link on CLG for the most part, so will generally get the most flak for his skill, while saint and chauster who are arguably the best 2 on the team atm won't get as much of such flak.

I remember this discussion on TL a while back about brood war pros. You'd have some people say stuff like "this pro is bad" then an A rank on iccup comes in and goes "wtf this guy would cream you 100% in every game you played vs him." But when people make those statements they're not saying "Man, this guy's so bad I'm a D rank and can beat him." No, they're saying "Compared to jaedong/flash/stork etcetc (the top of the top) this guy sucks." It's completely different.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 21 2011 22:45 GMT
#1509
elementz is really bad though. I've already said that to his face multiple times.
Brees on in
Danika
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico112 Posts
November 21 2011 22:46 GMT
#1510
On November 22 2011 07:40 epoc wrote:
Anyone have any idea who would win the lane trynd vs irelia? I much fear its trynd

irelia can stomp a huge chunk of solotops, including tryn, WITH clever play and not just going trololo i E you, cause he will punish hard, and yes i man irelia
If life turns her back on you, grab her ass.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 22:47:13
November 21 2011 22:46 GMT
#1511
I think its a relative scale Usnip. People know Ele isnt garbage, but relatively speaking, he sometimes looks to be like a weak link on CLG. If you had someone on your team who cost you a game every now and again, you might call them garbage a little bit jokingly.

But I dont think anyone actually thinks that Ele isnt 10X the player they are.

And as for trynd vs irelia, it depends on how many crits trynd gets at level 1. Seriously.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
November 21 2011 22:46 GMT
#1512
On November 22 2011 07:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
Every girl I know that plays this game plays ashe, sona, lux, cait, and teemo. o.o
It's eerie as hell.
Even Rhav plays all of those except sona lolol.

Yah but I also play loads of other champs.

Basically any champ with a really obnoxious laugh will eventually be one of my mains.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 21 2011 22:47 GMT
#1513
I think Elementz is pretty good I just don't think he's quite the best. I do agree I wouldn't call him bad or anything, calling him trash is just I would think people picking the wrong word for the situation. What they mean to say is "He's not the best in the world" but they say trash.

Having said that. Elementz is not garbage. Also the reason I like LoCi is he's good and has good music. His TL browsing is a plus but wouldn't be the only reason to watch him.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 21 2011 22:50 GMT
#1514
Also doesn't rage and open to criticizing his own play constructively. A little refreshing for a LoL stream
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 22:58:42
November 21 2011 22:52 GMT
#1515
On November 22 2011 07:40 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:22 Woony wrote:
On November 22 2011 07:17 Juicyfruit wrote:
Leblanc with the new offensive masteries is brokennnnnn


How so? I mean she doesn't benefit from AP any more than other AP carries, infact her scaling is pretty weak if you consider the overall picture.


Mostly because you had a character that can "almost" insta-gib you early game without really trying. Now you have a character that can definitely insta-gib you without trying.

Edit: I mean, if you consider Leblanc's MO, her usefulness is completely dependent on whether she can 1-shot people. If she can, she's terrifying; if she can't, she's bad. Being able to hit quite a bit harder (on both sides) tend to benefit her more often than not, because of her high range and silence, not to mention the new mastery options help her last-hitting with autos :>


Personally, and I'm by no means good at this game, I fucking hate Leblanc and always have. I like AP carries but there's something about her that makes me bad at playing her, every game I've tried to play her I always suck. And anytime I play against her it just isn't a pleasant experience. She's just not fun at all to lane against. Not saying that I lose lane or anything but nine times out of ten if I do fine in my lane against a Leblanc she'll leave to go gank lanes while I'm back and pick up free kills on my idiot teammates. It's really annoying and I wish they'd do a complete rework of that champion.

I'm personally terrified at the thought of her burst now with the new masteries and the possibility of more Leblancs after Reginald played her at MLG.

edit:
The thing I really dislike about Leblanc is just how stupid she is. She either carries hard or she's dead weight.
Holykitty
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands246 Posts
November 21 2011 22:54 GMT
#1516
On November 22 2011 07:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 02:38 BlackPaladin wrote:
Elementz is garbage. So I fully agree with Saint! :>

i see people say this kind of thing seriously sometimes. what is with the shit talking of pros on tl? Mediocre players who criticize the play of people who proven themselves in tournaments are only making themselves look stupid if all they've got is a one line dismissal, or worse, bullshit analysis like "I think X lacks the confidence to Y". If loci didn't post here i bet we'd see the same garbage about him, instead he's a member of the community so these same people would suck his butthole if he asked. It's internet tough guy syndrome, if you're about to talk a pro down imagine he were about to pm you about it.


theres no reason to be a dick about it but legit criticism can come from anyone. it might take a smart player to even notice it, but thats not a given.
Where there's smoke, there's me
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 21 2011 22:56 GMT
#1517
On November 22 2011 07:45 Brees wrote:
elementz is really bad though. I've already said that to his face multiple times.


at least he earns money while roughly spending the same amount of time on League of Legends as you do
And all is illuminated.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 22:56:47
November 21 2011 22:56 GMT
#1518
On November 22 2011 07:46 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
Every girl I know that plays this game plays ashe, sona, lux, cait, and teemo. o.o
It's eerie as hell.
Even Rhav plays all of those except sona lolol.

Yah but I also play loads of other champs.

Basically any champ with a really obnoxious laugh will eventually be one of my mains.


you're also the only girl I know (actually play with) that's any good at this game lol :D
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 21 2011 22:57 GMT
#1519
Poor loci. Viegar vs lb round 3
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 21 2011 22:58 GMT
#1520
On November 22 2011 07:22 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:17 Juicyfruit wrote:
Leblanc with the new offensive masteries is brokennnnnn


How so? I mean she doesn't benefit from AP any more than other AP carries, infact her scaling is pretty weak if you consider the overall picture.


0.9 Q, 0.6 W, 1 E, (1.26 / 0.84 / 1.4) R = 3.9 on full combo

Now I've never played Leblanc so maybe there's something I'm missing, but those are amazing AP ratios. Annie has like 2.1 on her full combo, for example. Splash is a big factor of course.

That's why I'm confused that I often see a Void Staff rush on Leblanc, it's not like her ratios are so bad that penetration yield more damage.
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