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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 01 2011 22:04 GMT
#381
Did slasher not include TL on that last list?
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
November 01 2011 22:04 GMT
#382
On November 02 2011 07:03 Gorsameth wrote:
Its sad to see this... Odee has experiance and is facing off against a young guy in personal attack after personal attack (from both sides)
If 2 professionals from both sides talk about this it would be a totaly different scene.


The problem is there is no professional behind CDE. CDE is a group of friends who got together to play WCG USA.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 22:07:05
November 01 2011 22:04 GMT
#383
On November 02 2011 07:02 overt wrote:
"Are you going to support USA?"
"No."


Comparing Regi cheering for Dignitas or cheering for Chaox and TOO....not too hard of a decision to make.


On November 02 2011 07:05 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 07:04 JBright wrote:
On November 02 2011 07:02 overt wrote:
"Are you going to support USA?"
"No."


Comparing Regi cheering for Dignitas or cheering for Chaox and TOO....not too hard of a decision to make.


Oh yeah, and I'm not trying to make it sound bad. I thought it was pretty hilarious. If I was in Regi's shoes or anyone else on CDE fuck no I wouldn't support team USA.


I found it pretty hilarious too. And then there was that slight pause from Slasher to make things more awkward.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 01 2011 22:05 GMT
#384
On November 02 2011 07:04 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 07:02 overt wrote:
"Are you going to support USA?"
"No."


Comparing Regi cheering for Dignitas or cheering for Chaox and TOO....not too hard of a decision to make.


Oh yeah, and I'm not trying to make it sound bad. I thought it was pretty hilarious. If I was in Regi's shoes or anyone else on CDE fuck no I wouldn't support team USA.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 01 2011 22:05 GMT
#385
On November 02 2011 07:04 NoobieOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 07:03 Gorsameth wrote:
Its sad to see this... Odee has experiance and is facing off against a young guy in personal attack after personal attack (from both sides)
If 2 professionals from both sides talk about this it would be a totaly different scene.


The problem is there is no professional behind CDE. CDE is a group of friends who got together to play WCG USA.

Shoulda sent Dan.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 01 2011 22:05 GMT
#386
lol regi being blunt...

bleh I don't feel sympathetic to Dignitas...
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 22:14:24
November 01 2011 22:06 GMT
#387
Wow this really makes Regi look bad.... he just isn't communicating his points well. :/

It frustrates me that CDE are correct, but they just aren't communicating their points well to others.

The shows format pisses me off too; why would they bring on two opposing parties just to listen to them say "no your wrong" with nothing supporting either argument.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 22:07:22
November 01 2011 22:06 GMT
#388
Reginald being reginald. I don't think he made himself look any worse since the British dude doesn't exactly come off as sympathetic, but it was definitely a squandered opportunity since nothing really came out of this.

Really could have used SV or Dyrus here instead. Dyrus is more sympathetic and SV has appeal, and both articulate better.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 01 2011 22:06 GMT
#389
Kinda dissapointed, would've expected more than this. It was pretty odee saying shit like those rules are vague or the rules haven't been changed when they clearly had been changed.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
November 01 2011 22:07 GMT
#390
On November 02 2011 07:05 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 07:04 JBright wrote:
On November 02 2011 07:02 overt wrote:
"Are you going to support USA?"
"No."


Comparing Regi cheering for Dignitas or cheering for Chaox and TOO....not too hard of a decision to make.


Oh yeah, and I'm not trying to make it sound bad. I thought it was pretty hilarious. If I was in Regi's shoes or anyone else on CDE fuck no I wouldn't support team USA.


I really wasn't involved in watching LoL until recently but I started watching most tournaments since MLG and IEM gamescon and was watching both BO3s on stream and just from what I've seen and read about this situation I won't be rooting for USA. (Probably rooting for Canada since I watch the streams of lots of players on that team)
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 22:08:58
November 01 2011 22:08 GMT
#391
Reginald has been looking very stupid these last days imo. He's spamming forums, making videos on youtube to explain why they had won at start and what the rules were etc... DUDE BRO, if he was that sure of his win, while is he doing all this shit AFTER the rematch ?
This WGC can be resumed by this:
- Hi we are dignitas and we are gonna win this. Oh shit we lost, let's change the rules.
- Hi we are CDE, we already won against dignitas and we'll screw them again. Oh shit we lost, let's get the rules back.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
November 01 2011 22:10 GMT
#392
on the bright side Regi played one thing perfect. (paraphrasing inbound)

Odee asked him what he would do in that situation.

Regi responds : can't answer because that's a hypothetical

Odee presses: I bet you would play. you wouldn't give your spot up.

Regi : I never would have acted in a way that would have led to this situation.

exactly right way to do that.

but yeah Regi should have spent the whole time talking about WCG changing the rules after the fact. just hammer that over and over again and ignore Odee. that's what I would have done.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
November 01 2011 22:11 GMT
#393
They really should've put someone more articulate than Regi there, but at least it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
Blah.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 22:12:55
November 01 2011 22:11 GMT
#394
On November 02 2011 07:08 -Zoda- wrote:
Reginald has been looking very stupid these last days imo. He's spamming forums, making videos on youtube to explain why they had won at start and what the rules were etc... DUDE BRO, if he was that sure of his win, while is he doing all this shit AFTER the rematch ?
This WGC can be resumed by this:
- Hi we are dignitas and we are gonna win this. Oh shit we lost, let's change the rules.
- Hi we are CDE, we already won against dignitas and we'll screw them again. Oh shit we lost, let's get the rules back.


Pretty much this. I have limited sympathy for Regi because he chose to cater to the system and lost, and is NOW whining about it (well Regi is). They should have practiced a lot harder for the final set but they didn't. They should have pressed a lot harder on the rule changing issue but they didn't. They could have documented the situation a lot better, made a good clear case for themselves, but they didn't.

That said, WCG shouldn't get get away with blatant rule tampering. Someone has to fry for this.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 22:13:50
November 01 2011 22:12 GMT
#395
On November 02 2011 07:10 red_b wrote:
on the bright side Regi played one thing perfect. (paraphrasing inbound)

Odee asked him what he would do in that situation.

Regi responds : can't answer because that's a hypothetical

Odee presses: I bet you would play. you wouldn't give your spot up.

Regi : I never would have acted in a way that would have led to this situation.

exactly right way to do that.

but yeah Regi should have spent the whole time talking about WCG changing the rules after the fact. just hammer that over and over again and ignore Odee. that's what I would have done.

Odee's questioning there was so sleazy. Trying to get out of Dignitas's wrongdoing by posing a hypothetical to someone else. God that guy made me lose what little respect I had for Dignitas.

On November 02 2011 07:11 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 07:08 -Zoda- wrote:
Reginald has been looking very stupid these last days imo. He's spamming forums, making videos on youtube to explain why they had won at start and what the rules were etc... DUDE BRO, if he was that sure of his win, while is he doing all this shit AFTER the rematch ?
This WGC can be resumed by this:
- Hi we are dignitas and we are gonna win this. Oh shit we lost, let's change the rules.
- Hi we are CDE, we already won against dignitas and we'll screw them again. Oh shit we lost, let's get the rules back.


Pretty much this. I have limited sympathy for Regi because he chose to cater to the system and lost, and is NOW whining about it (well Regi is). They should have practiced a lot harder for the final set but they didn't. They should have pressed a lot harder on the rule changing issue but they didn't. They could have documented the situation a lot better, made a good clear case for themselves, but they didn't.

That said, WCG should get get away with blatant rule tampering. Someone has to fry for this.

The CDE guys did try to stop the rematch from happening by talking to Riot. They were then told in no uncertain terms that the decision was final. They could either play or forfeit. Not much of a choice there.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
November 01 2011 22:12 GMT
#396
On November 02 2011 07:11 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 07:08 -Zoda- wrote:
Reginald has been looking very stupid these last days imo. He's spamming forums, making videos on youtube to explain why they had won at start and what the rules were etc... DUDE BRO, if he was that sure of his win, while is he doing all this shit AFTER the rematch ?
This WGC can be resumed by this:
- Hi we are dignitas and we are gonna win this. Oh shit we lost, let's change the rules.
- Hi we are CDE, we already won against dignitas and we'll screw them again. Oh shit we lost, let's get the rules back.


Pretty much this. I have limited sympathy for CDE because they chose to cater to the system and lost, and are NOW whining about it. They should have practiced a lot harder for the final set but they didn't.

That said, WCG should get get away with blatant rule tampering. Someone has to fry for this.


Well what are they supposed to do? They complained before the rematch too. If they don't play the rematch then WCG just says "oh they forfeited".
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21621 Posts
November 01 2011 22:13 GMT
#397
On November 02 2011 07:08 -Zoda- wrote:
Reginald has been looking very stupid these last days imo. He's spamming forums, making videos on youtube to explain why they had won at start and what the rules were etc... DUDE BRO, if he was that sure of his win, while is he doing all this shit AFTER the rematch ?
This WGC can be resumed by this:
- Hi we are dignitas and we are gonna win this. Oh shit we lost, let's change the rules.
- Hi we are CDE, we already won against dignitas and we'll screw them again. Oh shit we lost, let's get the rules back.


Actualy the uproar already started when the decision was made to play the extra set. It has just reached critical when it actualy changed the outcome.
Add to that the fact there was imo a very real threat of DQ coming from WCG if CDE really protested heavily against the extra game.

The fact that WCG Canada didnt actualy play a 3 bo3 final either was brought up on state of the league by a player from one of the canadian teams the very next day.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
November 01 2011 22:14 GMT
#398
All of what's happening now, should have happened BEFORE the rematch.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17244 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 22:15:21
November 01 2011 22:14 GMT
#399
Just think, had Dignitas done the right thing and forfeited, this would've all been avoided.

I doubt there's any legal recourse that CDE could take against WCG, even if it would be deserved.
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NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 22:19:46
November 01 2011 22:15 GMT
#400
On November 02 2011 07:10 red_b wrote:
on the bright side Regi played one thing perfect. (paraphrasing inbound)

Odee asked him what he would do in that situation.

Regi responds : can't answer because that's a hypothetical

Odee presses: I bet you would play. you wouldn't give your spot up.

Regi : I never would have acted in a way that would have led to this situation.

exactly right way to do that.

but yeah Regi should have spent the whole time talking about WCG changing the rules after the fact. just hammer that over and over again and ignore Odee. that's what I would have done.


Obviously Regi doesn't know how to debate as well as some people on team liquid. In High School and start of college I won multiple awards for debate competitions and I know a lot of things I would have said differently but I doubt Regi ever took classes on debate or knew how to prepare for the topics he should have known were coming (would you have done the same? and the personal attacks issue). I think he did pretty well considering he was going up against a veteran such as Odee.

On November 02 2011 07:14 Craton wrote:
Just think, had Dignitas done the right thing and forfeited, this would've all been avoided.

I doubt there's any legal recourse that CDE could take against WCG, even if it would be deserved.


Are you kidding me? Would you imagine if lets say in a MLG you had a player like Incontrol who is outspoken against the extended series rule being up 2-0 against a player like Bomber who is a lot better than he is (don't ask how he managed to get there) Do you think he would have forfeited the first 2 games to make it an even series just because he doesn't like the ruling? I personally believe that a player would take whatever advantage they can get against a player/team that they feel can give a challenge to them.
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