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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 20 2011 02:19 GMT
#381
You missed Loci dude.

Loci > l0lcodoco > voyboy > jiji > SV for me
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 02:20:45
October 20 2011 02:20 GMT
#382
On October 20 2011 11:18 Craton wrote:
So I was curious about stream interest and made some polls. There were a lot more NA streamers so I limited it to most popular people on the starting lineups of pro teams. (Sorry Loci). For EU I included all the big names I could think of that actively stream. I was going to make it a single vote overall, but since I guarantee half of you will fail vote in both polls, I might as well make it so you pick for each region.

+ Show Spoiler [NA] +
Poll: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

Bigfatlp (17)
 
24%

Chaox (11)
 
16%

HotshotGG (10)
 
14%

Dyrus (9)
 
13%

SaintVicious (9)
 
13%

The Rain Man (3)
 
4%

Voyboy (3)
 
4%

Chauster (2)
 
3%

Reginald (2)
 
3%

Salce (2)
 
3%

Doublelift (1)
 
1%

Elementz (1)
 
1%

70 total votes

Your vote: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

(Vote): Bigfatlp
(Vote): Chaox
(Vote): Chauster
(Vote): Doublelift
(Vote): Dyrus
(Vote): Elementz
(Vote): HotshotGG
(Vote): Reginald
(Vote): SaintVicious
(Vote): Salce
(Vote): The Rain Man
(Vote): Voyboy


+ Show Spoiler [EU] +
Poll: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

Shushei (21)
 
62%

Ocelote (5)
 
15%

Snnopeh (4)
 
12%

Wickd (4)
 
12%

Cyanide (0)
 
0%

MoMa (0)
 
0%

Wetdream (0)
 
0%

xPeke (0)
 
0%

34 total votes

Your vote: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

(Vote): Cyanide
(Vote): Shushei
(Vote): MoMa
(Vote): Ocelote
(Vote): Snnopeh
(Vote): Wetdream
(Vote): Wickd
(Vote): xPeke




Locicero!!! And loco!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 20 2011 02:20 GMT
#383
Graves can clear it with a hard leash on blue. His clear time isn't too bad and I'd put him in the line of "can, but generally worth putting him someplace else kinda mentality."

His ganks are okay the smokescreen/tumble out of brush almost always forces a flash. I liked it.

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
October 20 2011 02:22 GMT
#384
On October 20 2011 11:20 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 11:18 Craton wrote:
So I was curious about stream interest and made some polls. There were a lot more NA streamers so I limited it to most popular people on the starting lineups of pro teams. (Sorry Loci). For EU I included all the big names I could think of that actively stream. I was going to make it a single vote overall, but since I guarantee half of you will fail vote in both polls, I might as well make it so you pick for each region.

+ Show Spoiler [NA] +
Poll: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

Bigfatlp (17)
 
24%

Chaox (11)
 
16%

HotshotGG (10)
 
14%

Dyrus (9)
 
13%

SaintVicious (9)
 
13%

The Rain Man (3)
 
4%

Voyboy (3)
 
4%

Chauster (2)
 
3%

Reginald (2)
 
3%

Salce (2)
 
3%

Doublelift (1)
 
1%

Elementz (1)
 
1%

70 total votes

Your vote: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

(Vote): Bigfatlp
(Vote): Chaox
(Vote): Chauster
(Vote): Doublelift
(Vote): Dyrus
(Vote): Elementz
(Vote): HotshotGG
(Vote): Reginald
(Vote): SaintVicious
(Vote): Salce
(Vote): The Rain Man
(Vote): Voyboy


+ Show Spoiler [EU] +
Poll: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

Shushei (21)
 
62%

Ocelote (5)
 
15%

Snnopeh (4)
 
12%

Wickd (4)
 
12%

Cyanide (0)
 
0%

MoMa (0)
 
0%

Wetdream (0)
 
0%

xPeke (0)
 
0%

34 total votes

Your vote: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

(Vote): Cyanide
(Vote): Shushei
(Vote): MoMa
(Vote): Ocelote
(Vote): Snnopeh
(Vote): Wetdream
(Vote): Wickd
(Vote): xPeke




Locicero!!! And loco!


Why does he make me choose and feel like Im hating on a loved friend that doesnt know me...yet
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 02:26:36
October 20 2011 02:26 GMT
#385
On October 20 2011 11:18 Craton wrote:
So I was curious about stream interest and made some polls. There were a lot more NA streamers so I limited it to most popular people on the starting lineups of pro teams. (Sorry Loci). For EU I included all the big names I could think of that actively stream. I was going to make it a single vote overall, but since I guarantee half of you will fail vote in both polls, I might as well make it so you pick for each region.

+ Show Spoiler [NA] +
Poll: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

Bigfatlp (17)
 
24%

Chaox (11)
 
16%

HotshotGG (10)
 
14%

Dyrus (9)
 
13%

SaintVicious (9)
 
13%

The Rain Man (3)
 
4%

Voyboy (3)
 
4%

Chauster (2)
 
3%

Reginald (2)
 
3%

Salce (2)
 
3%

Doublelift (1)
 
1%

Elementz (1)
 
1%

70 total votes

Your vote: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

(Vote): Bigfatlp
(Vote): Chaox
(Vote): Chauster
(Vote): Doublelift
(Vote): Dyrus
(Vote): Elementz
(Vote): HotshotGG
(Vote): Reginald
(Vote): SaintVicious
(Vote): Salce
(Vote): The Rain Man
(Vote): Voyboy


+ Show Spoiler [EU] +
Poll: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

Shushei (21)
 
62%

Ocelote (5)
 
15%

Snnopeh (4)
 
12%

Wickd (4)
 
12%

Cyanide (0)
 
0%

MoMa (0)
 
0%

Wetdream (0)
 
0%

xPeke (0)
 
0%

34 total votes

Your vote: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

(Vote): Cyanide
(Vote): Shushei
(Vote): MoMa
(Vote): Ocelote
(Vote): Snnopeh
(Vote): Wetdream
(Vote): Wickd
(Vote): xPeke



No Dan Dinh makes me sad.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 20 2011 02:27 GMT
#386
Locodoco > Locicero > Dignitas members

I don't really care to watch pro players play solo Q. If teams are scrimming I might be inclined to watch though, but I pretty much only watch League Tournaments. Team play and synergy is much more entertaining than watching pros do stupid stuff in solo Q imo.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 02:32:51
October 20 2011 02:28 GMT
#387
omfg PvP Client cancer... 4 people see different combinations of 2 people, my chat service and friends list is empty

omggggg 4 dodges in row im so asdfasdf
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 20 2011 02:29 GMT
#388
Zomg Orianna so fun :D My fucking autos scale with AP? I have big range? Control and defensive options? Yes plox kkthxbai
It's your boy Guzma!
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 20 2011 02:29 GMT
#389
Uhh why am I patching all of a sudden
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 20 2011 02:34 GMT
#390
On October 20 2011 10:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 10:36 HazMat wrote:
On October 20 2011 10:34 Two_DoWn wrote:
TL subforum should do a podcast. Me, Turkey, Smash, and SHITCOMBO.

Id just make fun of Smash the whole time for being bad and giving up first blood to morganas who stack 4 dorans rings in ranked.

Decent idea. I'd listen but what would you talk about. Other than Smash being bad.

Oh cmon, we could TOTALLY stretch that into an hour+

If we start to run out of steam, we can just talk about how bad SHITCOMBO is with everyone but cho.

Or just get Locodoco as a guest. Guaranteed 1 hour of content right there.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 02:35:20
October 20 2011 02:34 GMT
#391
Of all the people you mentioned, only Dan Dinh is someone that would've fit in my list.

I specifically said for NA I listed the most popular people (by # of average viewers) on starting lineups of pro teams. I'm polling a specific thing; L2read -_-

I probably should've put Dan in over Scarra since he gets more viewers, but I didn't think about it.
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 20 2011 02:36 GMT
#392
It's always been locodoco > jiji/Chauster > everyone else. I put jiji before Chauster though cause he has the best music of any streamer and he never rages. Not to mention CATS!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
October 20 2011 02:38 GMT
#393
For me, Loci > Loco > jiji/Chauster/Gman Bob
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 20 2011 02:42 GMT
#394
Also, am I the only one who thinks we need to somehow split up GD? >_>

I consider myself pretty nerdy when it comes to following threads like this BUT ITS MOVING AT A FUCKING 20 PAGES PER DAY FFS WTF
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
October 20 2011 02:43 GMT
#395
So just read the last few pages?
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 20 2011 02:45 GMT
#396
Riot #1 Online Technical Award
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 20 2011 02:45 GMT
#397
GD always moves super fast on the first few days a new patch is out. :X
ô¿ô
spacemonkey4eve
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States267 Posts
October 20 2011 02:46 GMT
#398
lapaka leaving Crs

Well i decided not to be with team curse any more because Liquid and i dont like eachother and cant move as a team without all members being on the same page. Team is not going anywhere if liquid is support. told him to practice more support like alistar and taric after MLG. IPL and IEM come and he still dont know the champs and the fact that every other team know that is pretty sad.

as in the people in curse

pobelter - great player, plays really good. he know his mistakes about not buying ward and being push all day. im sure he will fix all of that.

nyjacky- i feel like this guy is cool and also really good player. my fav on the team.

liquid - cant play nothing should it give his spot a long time ago so the team can actually be better.

mashme - he told me to join unr . and was the reason i join the team . good player even tho he dont play as much now.

tom SYDTKO - thinks he knows everything and is never wrong even tho he lose lanes 80% of the times. dont really care about the team lol.

doublelift - cool guy. cant play ad tbh. i feel like our weakness as a team is always bot lane. never had a good bot lane always suck suck. can play decent cait and vayne. if ur going to be main ad for a team i advice u to learn kog urgot corki. every torny we had to ban kog even if we first pick cuz u coudnt play it.


as for me i will keep playing competitive and try to get better.


the LoL drama recently has been worthy of a daytime meolodrama
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
October 20 2011 02:46 GMT
#399
On October 20 2011 11:18 Craton wrote:
So I was curious about stream interest and made some polls. There were a lot more NA streamers so I limited it to most popular people on the starting lineups of pro teams. (Sorry Loci). For EU I included all the big names I could think of that actively stream. I was going to make it a single vote overall, but since I guarantee half of you will fail vote in both polls, I might as well make it so you pick for each region.

+ Show Spoiler [NA] +
Poll: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

Bigfatlp (17)
 
24%

Chaox (11)
 
16%

HotshotGG (10)
 
14%

Dyrus (9)
 
13%

SaintVicious (9)
 
13%

The Rain Man (3)
 
4%

Voyboy (3)
 
4%

Chauster (2)
 
3%

Reginald (2)
 
3%

Salce (2)
 
3%

Doublelift (1)
 
1%

Elementz (1)
 
1%

70 total votes

Your vote: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

(Vote): Bigfatlp
(Vote): Chaox
(Vote): Chauster
(Vote): Doublelift
(Vote): Dyrus
(Vote): Elementz
(Vote): HotshotGG
(Vote): Reginald
(Vote): SaintVicious
(Vote): Salce
(Vote): The Rain Man
(Vote): Voyboy


+ Show Spoiler [EU] +
Poll: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

Shushei (21)
 
62%

Ocelote (5)
 
15%

Snnopeh (4)
 
12%

Wickd (4)
 
12%

Cyanide (0)
 
0%

MoMa (0)
 
0%

Wetdream (0)
 
0%

xPeke (0)
 
0%

34 total votes

Your vote: If every pro streamer was online, who would you watch?

(Vote): Cyanide
(Vote): Shushei
(Vote): MoMa
(Vote): Ocelote
(Vote): Snnopeh
(Vote): Wetdream
(Vote): Wickd
(Vote): xPeke



No Westrice makes me a Sad panda
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 02:51:48
October 20 2011 02:47 GMT
#400
I pretty much only watch saint and jiji.

And is name is JIJI. NOT LP. FUCK RIOT FOR TRYING TO CHANGE THE NAME OF ONE OF THEIR STAR PLAYERS.


ITS FUCKING JIJI.
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