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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 12 2011 08:22 GMT
#1821
Active items give an assist as long as it hits, don't know about aura items but they should since you're helping your team fight.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 08:26:46
October 12 2011 08:24 GMT
#1822
Spell shield is a unique spell that's useful all-game; lessens your chance of getting killed in gank and very important spell in teamfights to give a person anti-cc magic damage absorption.

Q bind is powerful if landed and is a decent skillshot actually quite long both in range and duration (2 second snare level 1).

W allows her to farm waves effectively and without putting herself in much danger, as well as coupled with her passive she has some sustain in lane.

R is utility/damage in teamfights. With E and/or Zhonya's you become a massive threat to the enemy.

Basically a good source of magic damage with good AP scaling with incredible utility and strong resistance to ganks and easy to farm with.
Stuck.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 12 2011 08:30 GMT
#1823
actual answer, she got godly buffed
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 12 2011 08:33 GMT
#1824
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P

It's about synergy with your support, playing your lane as aggressively as possible without crossing the line into unsafe, knowing when you can leave the lane, knowing when you have to stay, knowing when you have to sacrifice yourself, knowing when you have to do all kinds of things that it's important to do. It's warding the right spots and cving the right places and instantly reacting to things that happen.

Buying the items is the easy part though...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 12 2011 08:34 GMT
#1825
On October 12 2011 17:22 JackDino wrote:
Active items give an assist as long as it hits, don't know about aura items but they should since you're helping your team fight.


but do you get an assist for the aura, or only if the aura helps in some way? like do you get an assist from aegis aura only if they get hit and therefore have damage reduced by the aura

actually i don't think the aegis aura gives assists
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
October 12 2011 08:46 GMT
#1826
Important thing about playing support (RL buddy does this all the time) don't go off roaming if your lane partner isn't doing very well or without telling them, so many games ruined this way.
LOUD NOISES!!!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 12 2011 08:55 GMT
#1827
On October 12 2011 17:46 Lorken wrote:
Important thing about playing support (RL buddy does this all the time) don't go off roaming if your lane partner isn't doing very well or without telling them, so many games ruined this way.

It's quite funny when the enemy botlane has a cait and your support is like "ok I go roam now care".
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 09:15:34
October 12 2011 09:01 GMT
#1828
On October 12 2011 17:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 17:22 JackDino wrote:
Active items give an assist as long as it hits, don't know about aura items but they should since you're helping your team fight.


but do you get an assist for the aura, or only if the aura helps in some way? like do you get an assist from aegis aura only if they get hit and therefore have damage reduced by the aura

actually i don't think the aegis aura gives assists

Aegis also gives +8 AD, so an assist could be granted whenever someone with your aura damages the enemy with an AD scaling ability or autoattack. I don't know if it does, and if it does, I would assume that the AD scaling part would be ignored, and all abilities would count.

If auras really work, get Starks for a 1200 radius assist harvest machine.
On October 12 2011 17:55 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 17:46 Lorken wrote:
Important thing about playing support (RL buddy does this all the time) don't go off roaming if your lane partner isn't doing very well or without telling them, so many games ruined this way.

It's quite funny when the enemy botlane has a cait and your support is like "ok I go roam now care".

Pretty much any decent bot lane can either fully zone or outright kill you if they see your support wander off at a bad timing.
Yesterday I was Cait vs Taric Vayne and my anny Janna would always wander off to dragon to ward/clear wards right when I was in the process of shoving a wave. Vayne ult, tumble, exhaust, Taric stun, Vayne condemn, I'm dead. Of even better, WW shows up too, I'm even more dead.
Obviously I should have retreated right as Janna left, but I didn't expect her to do this crap all the time, and I would have lost tons of farm.
As the AD you want to trust in your support so you can focus on other things, and the support has to play according to the actions of the AD.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 12 2011 09:14 GMT
#1829
so
i just saw an akali (with baron, guardian angel)
LITERALLY 1v5 the opposing team
and get a pentakill

the rest of us were just pushing mid while we watched her and screamed on vent
it was fucking insanity

1v5 pentakill

holy
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 12 2011 09:16 GMT
#1830
On October 12 2011 18:14 gtrsrs wrote:
so
i just saw an akali (with baron, guardian angel)
LITERALLY 1v5 the opposing team
and get a pentakill

the rest of us were just pushing mid while we watched her and screamed on vent
it was fucking insanity

1v5 pentakill

holy

What was the team kill score at that point? Not surprising if you were like 40-10.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 12 2011 09:21 GMT
#1831
On October 12 2011 18:16 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 18:14 gtrsrs wrote:
so
i just saw an akali (with baron, guardian angel)
LITERALLY 1v5 the opposing team
and get a pentakill

the rest of us were just pushing mid while we watched her and screamed on vent
it was fucking insanity

1v5 pentakill

holy

What was the team kill score at that point? Not surprising if you were like 40-10.


it was something like 20-6, but akali WAS 10-1 at that point
and our opponents weren't GREAT so their farm was pretty poor
but they did at least try to stagger CC

it was like

5 converge on her in top lane
she shrouds
she instagibs cait, they burst her to ~40% life
she jumps on pirate, back up to 60% life, bursted back down to 20%
she kills pirate, gets bursted down to 0, shroud falls while guardian resurrects her
revives at like 15% life, immediately gibs teemo to jump back up to 50%
annie stuns her and unloads and ignites, down to 10%
she kills annie but vamp only gets her to 20% life, nocturne wailing on her
at this point we're all screaming in vent and going nuts
she ends up killing noc and lives with about 10% life

then chat just exploded with "LOL" "OMG" "PPPPENTA" "OMG" "HISTORY" "LOLOLOLOL" "we let you kill us" "LOL" "DOMINATED" etc etc
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 12 2011 09:26 GMT
#1832
Dat Funblade. Only thing to say.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 09:27:33
October 12 2011 09:27 GMT
#1833
Im gonna cry when Akali gets evelynn nerfed.

Unless gunblade gets nerfed, i'll still cry. Wait wtf Destiny streams LoL
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 12 2011 09:46 GMT
#1834
3K people watching Destiny get wrecked as Singed by Akari. haha
It's cute.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
October 12 2011 09:50 GMT
#1835
Is Akali seriously getting a nerf? I've played her pretty much from the beginning and I've always felt she's a great champ... but is she really OP? I've never had real trouble against her in games (buying an Oracle basically gets the job done) and there's so many counterpicks. She hasnt been changed since forever and suddenly everyone's going to jump the bandwagon that she's OP? Meh.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 09:55:41
October 12 2011 09:55 GMT
#1836
She's not OP she's as strong as any other bruiser, ok maybe stronger but the thing is, people are just too retarded to deal with her(hi pink ward/oracle and focus fire).
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 10:00:12
October 12 2011 09:56 GMT
#1837
On October 12 2011 18:50 Promises wrote:
Is Akali seriously getting a nerf? I've played her pretty much from the beginning and I've always felt she's a great champ... but is she really OP? I've never had real trouble against her in games (buying an Oracle basically gets the job done) and there's so many counterpicks. She hasnt been changed since forever and suddenly everyone's going to jump the bandwagon that she's OP? Meh.

I think a lot of people here are in agreement that the problem is in large part due to Gunblade, and not necessarily the champion itself.

SOMETHING needs to change about Gunblade. It's utility is too asymmetric at this point--it's 100% useless for people who don't get it, and 100% necessary for those who do.

Personally, I feel Gunblade needs to get rescaled through Bilgewater Cutlass. The item is too useless outside of being a Gunblade component--it's not really cost-effective for the stats, only builds to Gunblade, and the active is absolute trash before the upgrade (400 range for Cutlass active, upgrades to 700 with Gunblade--the range goes from useless to insane).

The item combine for Gunblade is stupidly cost-effective, but a lot of that is just making up for how comparatively useless Cutlass is. Cutlass needs to get re-scaled to being more compelling on it's own (possibly giving it an AD-only build path, and upping the range on the active), while Gunblade's combine needs to be nerfed a bit.
Moderator
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
October 12 2011 10:05 GMT
#1838
Been trying out a new Akali build tonight based around fast gunblade. It has generally been letting me completely destroy midgame much more than a normal boots->rylais->mercs->lich build. She better not get nerfed. She is the reason I love LoL so much. Nurse Akali ftw!

I am practicing my Cassiopeia just incase Akali is nerfed. Gotta be able to carry my team.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 10:22:41
October 12 2011 10:22 GMT
#1839
hmm.. there's a lot of koreans on at this time. i had like 5-6 koreans in my last game
BW -> League -> CSGO
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
October 12 2011 10:25 GMT
#1840
On October 12 2011 19:05 Hoban wrote:
Been trying out a new Akali build tonight based around fast gunblade. It has generally been letting me completely destroy midgame much more than a normal boots->rylais->mercs->lich build. She better not get nerfed. She is the reason I love LoL so much. Nurse Akali ftw!

I am practicing my Cassiopeia just incase Akali is nerfed. Gotta be able to carry my team.

Gunblade rush is a pretty standard build for akali. I think the fast rylais build fell out of flavor awhile ago. The more common thing that I am seeing now is gunblade into deathcap, followed by a GA. She only gets out of control if your team is lacking on CC. If you have no cc chains built into your team comp, she will most likely be able to just bounce around killing in team fights unhindered.
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