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radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
October 12 2011 05:30 GMT
#1801
relogging isnt fixing it, that's what I'm saying. It is happening at least 75% of the time to me -_-
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
October 12 2011 05:35 GMT
#1802
tryin this fix: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1330592

seems to work on my first queue =X
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 05:47:56
October 12 2011 05:47 GMT
#1803
Does League connect over IPv6 or something? If not there's literally no reason the advice provided in that thread would do anything.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 06:00:14
October 12 2011 06:00 GMT
#1804
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
October 12 2011 06:08 GMT
#1805
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P

play exactly like madlife or xpecial does
i wish riot would give me better ping
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
October 12 2011 06:21 GMT
#1806
On October 12 2011 14:47 arnath wrote:
Does League connect over IPv6 or something? If not there's literally no reason the advice provided in that thread would do anything.


dunno, but it works for me and a ton of other people in that thread
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 12 2011 06:22 GMT
#1807
On October 12 2011 15:08 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P

play exactly like madlife or xpecial does


Nyph?
Hey! How you doin'?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 06:29:02
October 12 2011 06:28 GMT
#1808
On October 12 2011 15:08 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P

play exactly like madlife or xpecial does


Pretty sure you and i are the only two on TL who know who madlife is. zz
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 12 2011 06:31 GMT
#1809
xpecial is an unsung hero
Everyone needs a nemesis.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 12 2011 06:46 GMT
#1810
On October 12 2011 15:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 15:08 locodoco wrote:
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P

play exactly like madlife or xpecial does


Pretty sure you and i are the only two on TL who know who madlife is. zz


that's not true





... nah just kidding I have no idea who madlife is
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
October 12 2011 06:59 GMT
#1811
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P


Support never gets any love, one of the pre-requisites to the position, admittedly most sub 2k supports think it just means having a ward on baron and dragon and that's the end of it.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 07:08:40
October 12 2011 07:08 GMT
#1812
On October 12 2011 15:59 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P


Support never gets any love, one of the pre-requisites to the position, admittedly most sub 2k supports think it just means having a ward on baron and dragon and that's the end of it.

It's already very hard to do for a lot of people.

Good support = good wards, good CVs, good use of his CC, no pushing, intelligent items buying (ALISTARS STOP BUILDING THAT SHEEN EARLY).
The legend of Darien lives on
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 12 2011 07:11 GMT
#1813
On October 12 2011 15:31 lynx.oblige wrote:
xpecial is an unsung hero


He's not unsung. He's recognized as the best support in NA.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Defury
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 07:17:05
October 12 2011 07:15 GMT
#1814
Ugh I can't decide what champs to buy. I love ranged, I love being able to burst and love being able to dominate if I have a good early game. Also like to be able to 1v1 decently, don't really care for annie and don't always play mid (but I could raelly make an effort) I don't really care for right click warrior champs either like kog/vayne I prefer something like ezreal but more burst and don't mind playing AP

I also need to get good at 2-3 champs that have similiar runes.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 07:25:28
October 12 2011 07:15 GMT
#1815
On October 12 2011 15:59 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P


Support never gets any love, one of the pre-requisites to the position, admittedly most sub 2k supports think it just means having a ward on baron and dragon and that's the end of it.


Support roles never get much attention, it's in their role. If a carry kills someone, people watching a stream can easily see that he atleast did something right.

A support is a lot about playing disruptive for the other team, stopping them from getting kills/farm with ward placement, CVs, heals, cc, harrass, zoning, etc. If you do it right, your team is likely to win. But you don't get many specific moments you can point to, "this is where I won the game for us", like a carry getting a multikill or something.

Basicly, if you play good, you'll help your team to win but most people won't notice. If you play poorly, people will die and ask you why you didn't ward/heal/cc (and god forbid that you accidently get a frag while trying to help to focus someone down).

On October 12 2011 16:15 Defury wrote:
Ugh I can't decide what champs to buy. I love ranged, I love being able to burst and love being able to dominate if I have a good early game. Also like to be able to 1v1 decently, don't really care for annie and don't always play mid (but I could raelly make an effort) I don't really care for right click warrior champs either like kog/vayne I prefer something like ezreal but more burst and don't mind playing AP


Try cass out, she's a blast.

Edit: If you're getting several, just buy a few of the more common picks for AP mid. They share most of the runes.

Brand, cass, morgana, malz, karthus, vlad.

Morgana is really fun, but she's banned/first pick all the time so I don't really suggest you buy her since you're not gonna get to play her often.

Vlad is just on the list because it's my first hero and I really don't think he's as weak as people think (unless really high elo maybe, can't talk about that).

The rest are just your standard AP carries for mid, you could probably play them all with the same runes.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
October 12 2011 07:20 GMT
#1816
Won a 3v5 when two of our teammates d/ced 15 mins in lol...Dat jax
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GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
October 12 2011 07:21 GMT
#1817
On October 12 2011 11:46 RogerX wrote:
Graves Lore and skills been announced, not sure if its already been posted before but here you go:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lore:

Malcolm Graves was born in the back of a Bilgewater tavern and left there with a bottle of spiked milk. He survived a childhood in the pirate-run slums using every dirty trick in the book. Intent on building a new life for himself, he stowed away on the first ship to the mainland he could sneak aboard. However, the grim realities of the world forced him to eke out an unsavory living in the underground of various city-states, jumping the border whenever things got too hot. At a particularly high-stakes game of cards, he found himself seated opposite Twisted Fate. They both flipped four aces on the final hand. It was the first time either conman had met his equal. The two formed an alliance, swindling marks at the tables and scrapping back-to-back in the alleys afterward. Together, they ran the streets – stacking chips, decks, and rap sheets.

Unfortunately Graves made the mistake of hustling a hefty sum from Dr. Aregor Priggs, a high-ranking Zaunite official and businessman. When Priggs discovered how he’d been played, he became obsessed with revenge. He learned about Twisted Fate’s all-consuming desire to control magic and he promptly offered him a trade: serve Graves up in exchange for enrollment in a procedure which would grant his wish. Twisted Fate took the deal – both he and Graves knew the stakes of their arrangement, but the offer was too good. Once acquired, Priggs had Graves taken to a special location built to hold men whose crimes – or more precisely their punishments – were meant to stay off the books. Graves endured years of captivity at the hands of Zaun’s most unscrupulous wardens before he managed to escape. One of his fellow detainees introduced him to an eccentric gunsmith who modified a shotgun exactly to his specifications. He named it “Destiny.” After he paid a visit to Priggs, Graves joined the League of Legends with two targets in his sights: Twisted Fate and payback.

“They got a saying in the locker: ain’t got nothin’ but time to plan.” –Graves, the Outlaw

Abilities:

Buckshot: Graves fires three bullets in a cone damaging all enemies in the projectiles path. Enemies at close range can be hit by multiple projectiles, but each one beyond the first will deal reduced damage.
Smokescreen: Graves fires a smoke canister at the target area that deals damage and creates a cloud of smoke. Enemies inside the smoke cloud have reduced sight range and movement speed.
Quickdraw: Graves dashes forward gaining an attack speed boost for several seconds. Attacking enemies lowers the cooldown of this skill.
Collateral Damage (Ultimate): Graves fires an explosive shell dealing heavy damage to the first target it hits. After hitting a champion or reaching the end of its range the shell explodes dealing damage in a cone behind the target.
True Grit (Passive): Graves gains increasing armor and magic resistance the longer he remains in combat.


You'll have to go to the LoL website yourself to see the images (Don't want to get told off for advertisement, sorry!)

I normally never buy champions when they first release but I feel like this is an exception, he seems super fun and he looks badass However I wish he had a different passive, I for one likes to play offensive when I play AD range carries (Which he probably is, like why wouldn't he?) Im really excited, more excited than Wukong. Aaaaaaaand his lore felt kinda cliche and guessable to me but thats just my opinion.

Happy Leaguing!


Aside from the Qs he feels like a safer MF at first glance.
Smokescreen/Make It Rain - Smokescreen gets the sight reduction and the damage is instant.
Quickdraw/Impure Shots - Quickdraw has a dash with a most likely short cd toward late game, Impure shot does some extra magic damage and has the heal reduction.
Collateral Damage/Bullet Time - Colleteral damage is instant and has most likely a bigger range due to the two part nature of the skill, aside from that its two long range AOE cone.

True Grit/Strut - Arguable which one is better to have on a carry.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 12 2011 07:43 GMT
#1818
On October 12 2011 15:00 r.Evo wrote:
I see people like Locodoco rage sooo often about shitty supports in solo q.

Can someone of our high tier TLers maybe make a guide about what makes the difference between a random 2k player who plays support and a strong support player? :>


I just always read JANNA THIS JANNA THAT JANNA NO JANNA OMG, but I didn't see anyone ever compliment a support in all those random streams. =P

2k rated supports secretly steal farm with 2k rated tactics that no one but supports know and carry the game with more farm than anyone else.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
WhiteNights
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States252 Posts
October 12 2011 07:44 GMT
#1819
I think that one of the most important features of a support is that the support knows how to jungle.
May your sky be always clear, may your smile be always bright, and may you be forever blessed for that moment of happiness which you gave to another lonely and grateful heart!
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
October 12 2011 08:05 GMT
#1820
Why is morgana so popular recently? I used to play her all the time and hardly ever saw another one, and then last game I was in ranked by mistake and didn't get to play her!

Also, do items give assists? (like randuins active) I don't think aura ones do though.
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