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Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
October 11 2011 22:05 GMT
#1681
On October 12 2011 05:50 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 03:38 daemir wrote:
I was wondering why i can't bind shift + x

Forcibly rebind it by modifying game files. Instructions are in my Tech Thread stickied at the top of the subforum.

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On October 12 2011 03:36 Craton wrote:
Riot code is horrible because you can't bind shift+letter as the regular cast without editing the file (this seriously makes no sense, how hard can this be to change?). You would have to edit the file before every single game and then adjust your keybinds accordingly to achieve the appropriate effect if you like to mix smartcast with regular.

Hm. You could have keep several notepad files and quickly rename them before a game starts perhaps. Actually, I wonder if people would like it if you could save hotkey setups like mastery pages. Would there actually be a significant demand for it? It wouldn't be worth implementing if only like 2 people use it.

(That's less than the number of Karma players btw.)

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On October 12 2011 05:43 STS17 wrote:
Since when did people at low elo ask the jungler for permission to take buffs at the 35 minute mark?

Low Elo. Same place where the bot lane that feeds and loses tower in 7 min declares the reason they lost was because top lane picked Teemo and won top lane but they're really just mad and want an easy excuse so they blame the guy with lowest Elo. Wait, what was the question again?



I would definitely use the different hotkey setups thing, but your renaming notepad files idea is really nice. Thanks!
LOUD NOISES!!!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 22:06:52
October 11 2011 22:05 GMT
#1682
On October 12 2011 06:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
At lower MMRs would AD Sion still be worth doing?

I don't think so. You have extremely strong scaling late-game, but you sacrifice your strength in lane, your awesome pushing/ganking power, and are less of a team-fight presence until then. Plus against certain champs/comps you just get kited without a gap-closer. It's fun, sure, but if you want a build that will win solo queue games for you, AP Sion is going to be much better because of how you can exert comparative lane control and start pushing your map presence onto other lanes. AD Sion just has to farm and hope his team doesn't lose the game before he gets fed enough.

AP Sion just feels stronger IMO because he actually has lots of thing's hes good at compared to other AP carries. Comparatively, AD Sion isn't compelling as a bruiser/melee carry.
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Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 11 2011 22:06 GMT
#1683
On October 12 2011 05:16 gtrsrs wrote:
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On October 12 2011 05:14 Zhiroo wrote:
Is there any chance/way to change your summoner name?


go to store
go to other
name-change
1300 RP (a little more than $10 USD)


Well that sucks cause I can't buy RP. Oh well. Maybe I'll just start leveling a new account when I'm bored.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 11 2011 22:08 GMT
#1684
On October 12 2011 07:05 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 06:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
At lower MMRs would AD Sion still be worth doing?

I don't think so. You have extremely strong scaling late-game, but you sacrifice your strength in lane, your awesome pushing/ganking power, and are less of a team-fight presence until then. Plus against certain champs/comps you just get kited without a gap-closer. It's fun, sure, but if you want a build that will win solo queue games for you, AP Sion is going to be much better because of how you can exert comparative lane control and start pushing your map presence onto other lanes. AD Sion just has to farm and hope his team doesn't lose the game before he gets fed enough.

AP Sion just feels stronger IMO because he actually has lots of thing's hes good at compared to other AP carries. Comparatively, AD Sion isn't compelling as a bruiser/melee carry.


AD Sion just gets kited all day since he has no gap closer. If you can stick on something you'll do a ton of damage though.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 22:12:02
October 11 2011 22:11 GMT
#1685
On October 12 2011 07:08 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
AD Sion just gets kited all day since he has no gap closer. If you can stick on something you'll do a ton of damage though.

I don't think that's the whole story because there are lots of melee champs that "get kited", but there are still strong champs among those for other reasons (e.g. Udyr has some of the most insane jungle speed/control in the game). AD Sion is not only kite-able, but is also weaker than AP Sion and other bruisers in other ways.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 11 2011 22:11 GMT
#1686
Just buy a ghostblade and take redbuff, should be fine.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 11 2011 22:18 GMT
#1687
On October 12 2011 07:08 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 07:05 TheYango wrote:
On October 12 2011 06:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
At lower MMRs would AD Sion still be worth doing?

I don't think so. You have extremely strong scaling late-game, but you sacrifice your strength in lane, your awesome pushing/ganking power, and are less of a team-fight presence until then. Plus against certain champs/comps you just get kited without a gap-closer. It's fun, sure, but if you want a build that will win solo queue games for you, AP Sion is going to be much better because of how you can exert comparative lane control and start pushing your map presence onto other lanes. AD Sion just has to farm and hope his team doesn't lose the game before he gets fed enough.

AP Sion just feels stronger IMO because he actually has lots of thing's hes good at compared to other AP carries. Comparatively, AD Sion isn't compelling as a bruiser/melee carry.


AD Sion just gets kited all day since he has no gap closer. If you can stick on something you'll do a ton of damage though.


Stun. Walk up. Whack.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 22:23:36
October 11 2011 22:22 GMT
#1688
On October 12 2011 07:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Stun. Walk up. Whack.

You get 1 hit, then they flash/use a jump skill. Or their support actually does something and you get knocked up by Janna, headbutted by Alistar, or stunned by Taric, and they just walk away.

And it still doesn't address the issue of AP Sion having much better lane/map presence early game, and being a much bigger threat in midgame teamfights.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 11 2011 22:34 GMT
#1689
On October 12 2011 07:22 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 07:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Stun. Walk up. Whack.

You get 1 hit, then they flash/use a jump skill. Or their support actually does something and you get knocked up by Janna, headbutted by Alistar, or stunned by Taric, and they just walk away.

And it still doesn't address the issue of AP Sion having much better lane/map presence early game, and being a much bigger threat in midgame teamfights.

Aah, okay. That makes sense now.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 11 2011 22:37 GMT
#1690
On October 12 2011 07:22 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 07:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Stun. Walk up. Whack.

You get 1 hit, then they flash/use a jump skill. Or their support actually does something and you get knocked up by Janna, headbutted by Alistar, or stunned by Taric, and they just walk away.

Saying this is kinda dumb. Flash after them, don't stun the one with the jump skill. Or someone on your team actually does something and your target gets knocked up by janna, pulved by alis, or one of get hit by 1 of the many other ccs in this game. If it's a 1v1 then sure, but the entire game isn't 1v1.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 11 2011 22:49 GMT
#1691
On October 12 2011 07:22 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 07:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Stun. Walk up. Whack.

You get 1 hit, then they flash/use a jump skill. Or their support actually does something and you get knocked up by Janna, headbutted by Alistar, or stunned by Taric, and they just walk away.

And it still doesn't address the issue of AP Sion having much better lane/map presence early game, and being a much bigger threat in midgame teamfights.


Okay, and irelia q's in instead, gets 1 hit, then they flash/use jump skill too or their support actually does something and get get knocked up by Janna, headbutted by Alistar, or stunned by Taric, and they just walk away.

It's the same concept. "No gap closer" is NOT the reason you build Sion AP over AD. zzz
AP is a lot better earlygame and midgame. Falls off a bit lategame but whatever, you're sion with 4k hp and no health items so get on his level.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
October 11 2011 22:54 GMT
#1692
ad sion sucks
good teams peel you easily
irelia has ccredux and low cd jump skill
even if they headbutt u away you just go 6 seconds later problem?

he is viable at low elo but all champions are
do whatever you like to play
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 11 2011 22:58 GMT
#1693
Why does everyone bash Nashor's Tooth? It seems really strong on anyone that benefits from all the stats it gives.

Nashor's Tooth - 500 gold
10% attack speed (Dagger is 15% for 420)
25 ability power (Amp Tome is +20 for 435)
3 mp5 (Faerie Charm is 3 mp5 for 180)
15% CDR (same as CDR boots, which cost 700)

And then the items it is built from aren't too shabby either. The Stinger is by far the most cost effective AS item in the game, and gives CDR to boot. The Fiendish Codex isn't amazing but it's not too shabby.
I am the Town Medic.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 11 2011 23:00 GMT
#1694
Who the hell needs attackspeed ap and a tiny ammount mp5, can't think of any decent champ, not even skarner.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2665 Posts
October 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#1695
On October 12 2011 08:00 JackDino wrote:
Who the hell needs attackspeed ap and a tiny ammount mp5, can't think of any decent champ, not even skarner.


Only Kayle really.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#1696
Even on kayle I'd rather get rageblade.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#1697
On October 12 2011 08:00 JackDino wrote:
Who the hell needs attackspeed ap and a tiny ammount mp5, can't think of any decent champ, not even skarner.


All the ranged ADs that use their spells a lot? Teemo, Kog, Ezreal, Corki, Tristana, maybe Miss Fortune?
I am the Town Medic.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 23:07:37
October 11 2011 23:04 GMT
#1698
It's bad on twitch, it's bad on MF, it's bad on corki, it's bad on kog(all the other "normal" ad items are better) and it's bad on teemo, even ap teemo(malady only attackspeed item you need).
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
rza
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada384 Posts
October 11 2011 23:08 GMT
#1699
On October 12 2011 08:00 JackDino wrote:
Who the hell needs attackspeed ap and a tiny ammount mp5, can't think of any decent champ, not even skarner.


my friend play twitch with alot of Atk Speed and AP!
yes! ap twitch!
Until my death, my goal's to stay alive.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2525 Posts
October 11 2011 23:09 GMT
#1700
On October 12 2011 07:58 Alzadar wrote:
Why does everyone bash Nashor's Tooth? It seems really strong on anyone that benefits from all the stats it gives.

Nashor's Tooth - 500 gold
10% attack speed (Dagger is 15% for 420)
25 ability power (Amp Tome is +20 for 435)
3 mp5 (Faerie Charm is 3 mp5 for 180)
15% CDR (same as CDR boots, which cost 700)

And then the items it is built from aren't too shabby either. The Stinger is by far the most cost effective AS item in the game, and gives CDR to boot. The Fiendish Codex isn't amazing but it's not too shabby.


Only Kayle. She's the only person that needs this item.

Rageblade isn't good on kayle anymore, you need to build her around her new passive, and then you will shred face cuz the enemy team wont have any armor or mr.
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