• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:08
CEST 07:08
KST 14:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202512Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced27BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Shield Battery Server New Patch BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 691 users

[Patch 1.0.0.126: Xerath] General Discussion - Page 64

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 62 63 64 65 66 156 Next
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 15:59:23
October 10 2011 15:57 GMT
#1261
There's a difference between learning how to play ranged AD properly, and trying to play ranged AD at low elo. Sometimes you will play a ranged AD properly without getting anything done in a fight because your team just played the "ignore the tank" game while a 400 Armor Rammus with Thornmail is on you with Reverie, Flash and redbuff. Sucks, but not necessarily the ranged ADs fault.

If you want to play ranged AD at low elo, pick Ashe and do the Ghostblade + Brutalizer build. Don't autoattack, just stay far away and spam Volley.
Caitlyn works somewhat decently too since her traps, net and exhaust provide you with plenty of escapes/kiting, and her Q lets you put on the hurt from far away.
On October 11 2011 00:45 Craton wrote:
My huge gripe about assassins is that its significantly easier to play as them than against them. You have to instantly peel perfectly and then kill them, while they just spam everything and instagib your carry if you don't play perfectly.

How to play against assassins: Exhaust, focus, kill.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 10 2011 15:58 GMT
#1262
Poppy has a huge farming problem. Your enemy is doing it wrong if you somehow win any lane as Poppy solo.

Farmed/fed Poppy is retarded es redundant statement. :o
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 10 2011 16:04 GMT
#1263
On October 11 2011 00:54 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:42 Misder wrote:
Guys, Poppy > Akali in top lane. Discuss.

Poppy gets Q and E and Akali can't do anything. Poppy's Q does more dmg than Akali's Q, and if Akali shrouds+Q/autoattack, Poppy knocks her out of the shroud plus Q. So Poppy can basically freefarm against Akali.

And farmed/fed Poppy is super scary.

Poppy's mana runs out before Akali's pots run out. Then Akali wins the lane :o

What elo Akali did you do this against? :o

Oh I don't play Poppy- just theorycrafting lol cause everyone is qqing about akali. You should be able to recall back for mana (run tele maybe?), or rush philo stone I think. Although once akali hits 6, it could be difficult to lane.
Whaaaa?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 10 2011 16:07 GMT
#1264
On October 11 2011 00:57 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:45 Craton wrote:
My huge gripe about assassins is that its significantly easier to play as them than against them. You have to instantly peel perfectly and then kill them, while they just spam everything and instagib your carry if you don't play perfectly.

How to play against assassins: Exhaust, focus, kill.

To be fair, Exhaust does nothing against an Akali with Rylai's or Red and/or Flash.
It's your boy Guzma!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 10 2011 16:08 GMT
#1265
On October 11 2011 01:07 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:57 spinesheath wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:45 Craton wrote:
My huge gripe about assassins is that its significantly easier to play as them than against them. You have to instantly peel perfectly and then kill them, while they just spam everything and instagib your carry if you don't play perfectly.

How to play against assassins: Exhaust, focus, kill.

To be fair, Exhaust does nothing against an Akali with Rylai's or Red and/or Flash.

You don't need to escape from akali if you focus her during exhaust lol.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21671 Posts
October 10 2011 16:08 GMT
#1266
Exhaust isnt there to run away from them. its to reduce there dmg so you can actualy kill em.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 16:11:11
October 10 2011 16:10 GMT
#1267
Oh shit, I always forget about the damage reduction. Probably why it's always unused and I die so fast, lol.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 10 2011 16:19 GMT
#1268
On October 11 2011 00:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Poppy has a huge farming problem. Your enemy is doing it wrong if you somehow win any lane as Poppy solo.

Farmed/fed Poppy is retarded es redundant statement. :o

Fun fact, 130 cs renekton vs 90 cs poppy still loses 1v1 to poppy -_-
twitch.tv/cratonz
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 10 2011 16:25 GMT
#1269
Random question but, what is with the "hue hue hue hue"? I have only seen it used in this subform.
Never Knows Best.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
October 10 2011 16:27 GMT
#1270
On October 11 2011 01:25 Slaughter wrote:
Random question but, what is with the "hue hue hue hue"? I have only seen it used in this subform.

akali es numero uno hue hue hue hue
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
October 10 2011 16:27 GMT
#1271
On October 11 2011 01:19 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Poppy has a huge farming problem. Your enemy is doing it wrong if you somehow win any lane as Poppy solo.

Farmed/fed Poppy is retarded es redundant statement. :o

Fun fact, 130 cs renekton vs 90 cs poppy still loses 1v1 to poppy -_-


Well, Renekton has 3 AoE abilities while Poppy is a dedicated 1v1 champion, so that shouldn't really be alarming.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 10 2011 16:28 GMT
#1272
On October 11 2011 01:25 Slaughter wrote:
Random question but, what is with the "hue hue hue hue"? I have only seen it used in this subform.


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=316408

"Mordekaiser es the best, #1, huehuehue" is the meme. (Brazilian laugh)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 10 2011 16:50 GMT
#1273
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*

In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 16:56:34
October 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#1274
On October 11 2011 01:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*

In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt.

Just rush warmogs, his problem is IMO lack of gap closer/haste/reliable cc (also he requires quite a lot of farm, but lategame he owns).

Or if you want to have fun playing Olaf just grab him for dominion, so far i have had huge success playing him with the standard SR build i use
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#1275
I have had some decent success in the jungle with him going Aspeed/HP build. The issue as always is still closing the gap, but if you have hard CC or anything like that you easily 2-3 shot carries.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
October 10 2011 16:57 GMT
#1276
On October 11 2011 01:28 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 01:25 Slaughter wrote:
Random question but, what is with the "hue hue hue hue"? I have only seen it used in this subform.


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=316408

"Mordekaiser es the best, #1, huehuehue" is the meme. (Brazilian laugh)


How does one pronounce "huehuehue", anyways? I've always said it in my head like "hweyhweyhwey", but I have a feeling that's just me being retarded.
whole lies with a half smile
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 10 2011 17:00 GMT
#1277
On October 11 2011 01:56 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 01:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*

In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt.

Just rush warmogs, his problem is IMO lack of gap closer/haste/reliable cc (also he requires quite a lot of farm, but lategame he owns).

Or if you want to have fun playing Olaf just grab him for dominion, so far i have had huge success playing him with the standard SR build i use

See, I disagree. Udyr doesnt have a gap closer, and he is the strongest jungle in the game currently. The bigger problem that Olaf has is that the itemization he needs to survive and do his job (warmogs, mallet) is really expensive. So finding a way to cut down the gold cost but have the same tank is what will fix his issues.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 10 2011 17:02 GMT
#1278
On October 11 2011 01:27 rigwarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 01:19 Craton wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Poppy has a huge farming problem. Your enemy is doing it wrong if you somehow win any lane as Poppy solo.

Farmed/fed Poppy is retarded es redundant statement. :o

Fun fact, 130 cs renekton vs 90 cs poppy still loses 1v1 to poppy -_-


Well, Renekton has 3 AoE abilities while Poppy is a dedicated 1v1 champion, so that shouldn't really be alarming.

I was more going for "yeah you'll beat Poppy in lane but it doesn't matter"
twitch.tv/cratonz
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 10 2011 17:03 GMT
#1279
On October 11 2011 01:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*

In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt.

Akali and Gunblade do need nerfs. The masses, while retarded in what they think is the culprit, are often right that something is wrong.
twitch.tv/cratonz
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 10 2011 17:04 GMT
#1280
On October 11 2011 02:00 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 01:56 Kaniol wrote:
On October 11 2011 01:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*

In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt.

Just rush warmogs, his problem is IMO lack of gap closer/haste/reliable cc (also he requires quite a lot of farm, but lategame he owns).

Or if you want to have fun playing Olaf just grab him for dominion, so far i have had huge success playing him with the standard SR build i use

See, I disagree. Udyr doesnt have a gap closer, and he is the strongest jungle in the game currently. The bigger problem that Olaf has is that the itemization he needs to survive and do his job (warmogs, mallet) is really expensive. So finding a way to cut down the gold cost but have the same tank is what will fix his issues.

Personally I was considering Aegis+CDR items. It made Trundle's farm issues go away, so maybe it'll work for Olaf too?
Moderator
Prev 1 62 63 64 65 66 156 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 53m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 287
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4523
Leta 423
PianO 361
Nal_rA 272
zelot 81
Sexy 55
JulyZerg 54
Sacsri 47
Aegong 39
Bale 37
[ Show more ]
GoRush 24
Noble 22
League of Legends
JimRising 847
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K306
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox636
Westballz20
Other Games
summit1g13774
shahzam1157
WinterStarcraft299
Maynarde177
SortOf2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1261
BasetradeTV63
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta70
• practicex 40
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• iopq 0
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift7101
• Rush1892
• Stunt571
Other Games
• Scarra4083
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 53m
WardiTV European League
10h 53m
PiGosaur Monday
18h 53m
OSC
1d 7h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 10h
The PondCast
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.