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There's a difference between learning how to play ranged AD properly, and trying to play ranged AD at low elo. Sometimes you will play a ranged AD properly without getting anything done in a fight because your team just played the "ignore the tank" game while a 400 Armor Rammus with Thornmail is on you with Reverie, Flash and redbuff. Sucks, but not necessarily the ranged ADs fault.
If you want to play ranged AD at low elo, pick Ashe and do the Ghostblade + Brutalizer build. Don't autoattack, just stay far away and spam Volley.
Caitlyn works somewhat decently too since her traps, net and exhaust provide you with plenty of escapes/kiting, and her Q lets you put on the hurt from far away.
On October 11 2011 00:45 Craton wrote:
My huge gripe about assassins is that its significantly easier to play as them than against them. You have to instantly peel perfectly and then kill them, while they just spam everything and instagib your carry if you don't play perfectly.
How to play against assassins: Exhaust, focus, kill.
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Poppy has a huge farming problem. Your enemy is doing it wrong if you somehow win any lane as Poppy solo.
Farmed/fed Poppy is retarded es redundant statement. :o
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On October 11 2011 00:54 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 00:42 Misder wrote:
Guys, Poppy > Akali in top lane. Discuss.
Poppy gets Q and E and Akali can't do anything. Poppy's Q does more dmg than Akali's Q, and if Akali shrouds+Q/autoattack, Poppy knocks her out of the shroud plus Q. So Poppy can basically freefarm against Akali.
And farmed/fed Poppy is super scary. Poppy's mana runs out before Akali's pots run out. Then Akali wins the lane :o What elo Akali did you do this against? :o
Oh I don't play Poppy- just theorycrafting lol cause everyone is qqing about akali. You should be able to recall back for mana (run tele maybe?), or rush philo stone I think. Although once akali hits 6, it could be difficult to lane.
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On October 11 2011 00:57 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 00:45 Craton wrote:
My huge gripe about assassins is that its significantly easier to play as them than against them. You have to instantly peel perfectly and then kill them, while they just spam everything and instagib your carry if you don't play perfectly. How to play against assassins: Exhaust, focus, kill.
To be fair, Exhaust does nothing against an Akali with Rylai's or Red and/or Flash.
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On October 11 2011 01:07 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 00:57 spinesheath wrote:On October 11 2011 00:45 Craton wrote:
My huge gripe about assassins is that its significantly easier to play as them than against them. You have to instantly peel perfectly and then kill them, while they just spam everything and instagib your carry if you don't play perfectly. How to play against assassins: Exhaust, focus, kill. To be fair, Exhaust does nothing against an Akali with Rylai's or Red and/or Flash.
You don't need to escape from akali if you focus her during exhaust lol.
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Exhaust isnt there to run away from them. its to reduce there dmg so you can actualy kill em.
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Oh shit, I always forget about the damage reduction. Probably why it's always unused and I die so fast, lol.
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On October 11 2011 00:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Poppy has a huge farming problem. Your enemy is doing it wrong if you somehow win any lane as Poppy solo.
Farmed/fed Poppy is retarded es redundant statement. :o
Fun fact, 130 cs renekton vs 90 cs poppy still loses 1v1 to poppy -_-
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Random question but, what is with the "hue hue hue hue"? I have only seen it used in this subform.
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On October 11 2011 01:25 Slaughter wrote:
Random question but, what is with the "hue hue hue hue"? I have only seen it used in this subform.
akali es numero uno hue hue hue hue
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On October 11 2011 01:19 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 00:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Poppy has a huge farming problem. Your enemy is doing it wrong if you somehow win any lane as Poppy solo.
Farmed/fed Poppy is retarded es redundant statement. :o Fun fact, 130 cs renekton vs 90 cs poppy still loses 1v1 to poppy -_-
Well, Renekton has 3 AoE abilities while Poppy is a dedicated 1v1 champion, so that shouldn't really be alarming.
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Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*
In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt.
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On October 11 2011 01:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*
In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt.
Just rush warmogs, his problem is IMO lack of gap closer/haste/reliable cc (also he requires quite a lot of farm, but lategame he owns).
Or if you want to have fun playing Olaf just grab him for dominion, so far i have had huge success playing him with the standard SR build i use
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I have had some decent success in the jungle with him going Aspeed/HP build. The issue as always is still closing the gap, but if you have hard CC or anything like that you easily 2-3 shot carries.
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How does one pronounce "huehuehue", anyways? I've always said it in my head like "hweyhweyhwey", but I have a feeling that's just me being retarded.
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On October 11 2011 01:56 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*
In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt. Just rush warmogs, his problem is IMO lack of gap closer/haste/reliable cc (also he requires quite a lot of farm, but lategame he owns). Or if you want to have fun playing Olaf just grab him for dominion, so far i have had huge success playing him with the standard SR build i use
See, I disagree. Udyr doesnt have a gap closer, and he is the strongest jungle in the game currently. The bigger problem that Olaf has is that the itemization he needs to survive and do his job (warmogs, mallet) is really expensive. So finding a way to cut down the gold cost but have the same tank is what will fix his issues.
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On October 11 2011 01:27 rigwarl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:19 Craton wrote:On October 11 2011 00:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Poppy has a huge farming problem. Your enemy is doing it wrong if you somehow win any lane as Poppy solo.
Farmed/fed Poppy is retarded es redundant statement. :o Fun fact, 130 cs renekton vs 90 cs poppy still loses 1v1 to poppy -_- Well, Renekton has 3 AoE abilities while Poppy is a dedicated 1v1 champion, so that shouldn't really be alarming.
I was more going for "yeah you'll beat Poppy in lane but it doesn't matter"
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On October 11 2011 01:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*
In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt.
Akali and Gunblade do need nerfs. The masses, while retarded in what they think is the culprit, are often right that something is wrong.
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On October 11 2011 02:00 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:56 Kaniol wrote:On October 11 2011 01:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I just checked the lol forums for the first time in a while, and dear god, are they complaining about akali. Best part is when people complained about her sustain, then blamed it on her shroud *MIND EXPLODES*
In other news, I think Imma try to figure out a way to make Olaf work again. I almost think that building him like Phoenix udyr could work, considering how he scales off of health and aspeed. Perhaps cloth+5 into boots and a HOG, then a wits and a giants belt. Just rush warmogs, his problem is IMO lack of gap closer/haste/reliable cc (also he requires quite a lot of farm, but lategame he owns). Or if you want to have fun playing Olaf just grab him for dominion, so far i have had huge success playing him with the standard SR build i use See, I disagree. Udyr doesnt have a gap closer, and he is the strongest jungle in the game currently. The bigger problem that Olaf has is that the itemization he needs to survive and do his job (warmogs, mallet) is really expensive. So finding a way to cut down the gold cost but have the same tank is what will fix his issues.
Personally I was considering Aegis+CDR items. It made Trundle's farm issues go away, so maybe it'll work for Olaf too?
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