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HereAndNow
Profile Joined October 2011
United States185 Posts
October 10 2011 12:54 GMT
#1221
On October 10 2011 15:10 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 14:44 HereAndNow wrote:
Is it even possible for an Ezreal to lane against an aggressive Caitlyn? She just can out poke, out range, and just completely demolish me. Halp?

You need your support taking out traps, and you in position so that if caitlyn tries to peacemaker your support to the face you can EQ and auto the shit out of her, cast time is about .5 seconds and if you know the cait is going to q you can get off eq plus an auto, and maybe another auto if she only tries to net out.

Oh, so for me to lane against a good Cait, I need to completely rely on my support and hope she focuses them instead of me? That sounds.... unpleasant in solo queue :S
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 12:56:13
October 10 2011 12:54 GMT
#1222
I'm not gonna deny that Kog is on the strong end of the champion list currently, but to bitch about his passive?
Slow him just before you kill him, walk away in peace.

Look at Karthus. He gets to use all of his skills after he dies. And those hit hard.

On October 10 2011 21:54 HereAndNow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 15:10 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On October 10 2011 14:44 HereAndNow wrote:
Is it even possible for an Ezreal to lane against an aggressive Caitlyn? She just can out poke, out range, and just completely demolish me. Halp?

You need your support taking out traps, and you in position so that if caitlyn tries to peacemaker your support to the face you can EQ and auto the shit out of her, cast time is about .5 seconds and if you know the cait is going to q you can get off eq plus an auto, and maybe another auto if she only tries to net out.

Oh, so for me to lane against a good Cait, I need to completely rely on my support and hope she focuses them instead of me? That sounds.... unpleasant in solo queue :S

Yes, a good cait 1v2s an uncoordinated lane pretty easily.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 13:09:12
October 10 2011 13:08 GMT
#1223
Karthus' strength as a champion largely relies on that passive, kog maw is extremely strong discounting the passive. I don't really think it's op, but the range of how strong it is is pretty wide for example melees have a much harder time after they kill him and also the damag feels to scale up a lot more. It feels like it hits a lot harder later because of the true damage part.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 10 2011 13:40 GMT
#1224
someone tell me what mouse to get, i ordered the kinzu because it is similar to my intelli explorer, but i might return it because i just read about all the sensor issues.

i need a small mouse which i can pull up and down with my fingers without it touching my hand while doing so. i need that because if i cant do it and have to move my arm i get "lazy" and start sucking.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
October 10 2011 14:17 GMT
#1225
i've been using a razer krait in the last 5 years

super streamlined design, a very light and easy to move mouse
And all is illuminated.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 10 2011 14:19 GMT
#1226
There are probably around 500 threads about mice in the tech forum.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 10 2011 14:21 GMT
#1227
On October 10 2011 21:54 spinesheath wrote:
I'm not gonna deny that Kog is on the strong end of the champion list currently, but to bitch about his passive?
Slow him just before you kill him, walk away in peace.

Look at Karthus. He gets to use all of his skills after he dies. And those hit hard.

fwiw, I hate Kog's passive too. I just hate it because it's stupid and rage inducing.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 10 2011 14:25 GMT
#1228
Lol the Akali QQ threads and posts on the US LoL forums is getting out of hand, so many people are qqing about her that it shadows the past Singed and Morgana cries. Sigh, lol I like Akali
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 10 2011 14:29 GMT
#1229
Official Forums of any game need something to cry about, it's only a matter of time before it moves on to someone else.
It's your boy Guzma!
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 14:33:36
October 10 2011 14:30 GMT
#1230
On October 10 2011 23:19 spinesheath wrote:
There are probably around 500 threads about mice in the tech forum.



yeah and they all reccomend huge mice that weight about a kilo and condemn small mice because they cant wrap their hands around it :p
Right now i am using one half of a lachesis :D, basically pretending the part where it gets wide again after getting verry narrow doesnt exist.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 10 2011 14:35 GMT
#1231
On October 10 2011 23:29 Requizen wrote:
Official Forums of any game need something to cry about, it's only a matter of time before it moves on to someone else.

I'm just afraid that this might turn out to be another Eve case where no one would use the champ anymore, lets hope not.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
October 10 2011 14:37 GMT
#1232
On October 10 2011 13:56 R04R wrote:
Ranged carries take quite a bit of mechanics(farming, microing in between attacks, and just general positioning) to kill champs that are just straightforward run in, execute combo, and kill types. Cho, Garen, Nasus, and Singed are usually pretty tanky so they can take a beating and dish it out at the same time by just pressing qwer


This is sooooo not true for a lot of high range carries like Cait or Trist at low ELO. For a starter champ, I couldn't imagine anything easier than Caitlyn, super range, skillshot that passes through minions, ult that gets easymode kills on CD (no one ever intercepts her ult intentionally at low ELO).

Cait was on free rotation the week I started playing LoL, my first few games were all like 15-3, 9-1, etc. Had no idea what I was doing.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 10 2011 14:40 GMT
#1233
On October 10 2011 23:37 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 13:56 R04R wrote:
Ranged carries take quite a bit of mechanics(farming, microing in between attacks, and just general positioning) to kill champs that are just straightforward run in, execute combo, and kill types. Cho, Garen, Nasus, and Singed are usually pretty tanky so they can take a beating and dish it out at the same time by just pressing qwer


This is sooooo not true for a lot of high range carries like Cait or Trist at low ELO. For a starter champ, I couldn't imagine anything easier than Caitlyn, super range, skillshot that passes through minions, ult that gets easymode kills on CD (no one ever intercepts her ult intentionally at low ELO).

Cait was on free rotation the week I started playing LoL, my first few games were all like 15-3, 9-1, etc. Had no idea what I was doing.

I'd still not recommend her for newer players. It would be bad if they get used to just right clicking to victory and not learning any fundamentals about the game. It's like the people in SC2 who get to Platinum by 4 Gating or 3 Raxing, yeah it wins you games, but as soon as it stops auto-winning you have no idea what to do.
It's your boy Guzma!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 10 2011 14:42 GMT
#1234
On October 10 2011 23:21 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 21:54 spinesheath wrote:
I'm not gonna deny that Kog is on the strong end of the champion list currently, but to bitch about his passive?
Slow him just before you kill him, walk away in peace.

Look at Karthus. He gets to use all of his skills after he dies. And those hit hard.

fwiw, I hate Kog's passive too. I just hate it because it's stupid and rage inducing.


hehe I sometimes say my friend is more useful as kog dead than alive XD
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 10 2011 14:45 GMT
#1235
On October 10 2011 23:40 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 23:37 Offhand wrote:
On October 10 2011 13:56 R04R wrote:
Ranged carries take quite a bit of mechanics(farming, microing in between attacks, and just general positioning) to kill champs that are just straightforward run in, execute combo, and kill types. Cho, Garen, Nasus, and Singed are usually pretty tanky so they can take a beating and dish it out at the same time by just pressing qwer


This is sooooo not true for a lot of high range carries like Cait or Trist at low ELO. For a starter champ, I couldn't imagine anything easier than Caitlyn, super range, skillshot that passes through minions, ult that gets easymode kills on CD (no one ever intercepts her ult intentionally at low ELO).

Cait was on free rotation the week I started playing LoL, my first few games were all like 15-3, 9-1, etc. Had no idea what I was doing.

I'd still not recommend her for newer players. It would be bad if they get used to just right clicking to victory and not learning any fundamentals about the game. It's like the people in SC2 who get to Platinum by 4 Gating or 3 Raxing, yeah it wins you games, but as soon as it stops auto-winning you have no idea what to do.

Learning to abuse that long range to stay safe in team fights can really teach a thing or two about positioning though. AD carry is probably the most difficult role to learn in general. Seems like shoehorning all the newbies into support or mage roles could gimp their skillset and then they'll turn out like me where they can't CS with autoattacks if their life depended on it.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 14:56:58
October 10 2011 14:49 GMT
#1236
QQ moved
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
October 10 2011 14:55 GMT
#1237
Should we start reporting people for posting QQ in this thread instead of Shikyo QQ thread?
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
October 10 2011 14:57 GMT
#1238
jesus christ can we stop talking about elo hell, if you suck you will get shitty teammates (or if you are good you will get shitty teammates for the first like 15 games but it doesn't matter because you'll win anyway)
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 10 2011 15:03 GMT
#1239
On October 10 2011 23:57 rigwarl wrote:
jesus christ can we stop talking about elo hell, if you suck you will get shitty teammates (or if you are good you will get shitty teammates for the first like 15 games but it doesn't matter because you'll win anyway)


If you listen to the forums, apparently all you need to do to get out of ELO hell is play Akali.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 10 2011 15:05 GMT
#1240
On October 11 2011 00:03 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 23:57 rigwarl wrote:
jesus christ can we stop talking about elo hell, if you suck you will get shitty teammates (or if you are good you will get shitty teammates for the first like 15 games but it doesn't matter because you'll win anyway)


If you listen to the forums, apparently all you need to do to get out of ELO hell is play Akali.

According to the forums, every Akali starts with a Gunblade, a fully stacked Mejai's, and at level 6. So imbalanced
It's your boy Guzma!
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