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Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 06 2011 20:21 GMT
#641
See you don't need to use the ult to secure the kill as cait. If you force a squishy guy back when you're seiging and make it a 4v5 thats good. All the poppies I played with were free week poppys that ult a guy and then run away instead of going in. So you follow in and get killed cause poppy was scared to 1v5 them with her ult up.
Drekor
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada38 Posts
October 06 2011 20:24 GMT
#642
On October 07 2011 04:25 Caller wrote:
i still don't understand the point of cv

the point of cv is to use it on places where you suspect somebody is
so why not just tell them "i think the guy is here" and take something more useful, like revive

CV is the for information. You can say "I suspect the jungler should be doing red right now then ganking". CV will say "The jungler IS doing red" and it'll show him run off towards a lane. The difference between this is huge. In former you may take defensive measures when it's not necessary or you may have mistimed things. CV allows you certainty in what is going on. It's the same thing with wards. You can always suspect someone is in that brush but a ward will tell you for sure. Map control is a HUGE part of winning games consistently.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 06 2011 20:25 GMT
#643
Well yeah, don't just save it for a kill, but as a single target hit with a longer cooldown that can be blocked, you'd expect it to have something, I dunno, more. The scaling is straight up amazing, not denying that, but there's really no disincentive for an enemy's teammate with high health to get in the way.

Ah well. It's still awesome, and I love it, but it's not Amumu or Galio or Poppy ult level of amazing.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 06 2011 20:29 GMT
#644
Nobody answered me, what do you guys think of sending Ryze top against Garen?
I am the Town Medic.
AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
October 06 2011 20:30 GMT
#645
On October 07 2011 04:25 Caller wrote:
i still don't understand the point of cv

the point of cv is to use it on places where you suspect somebody is
so why not just tell them "i think the guy is here" and take something more useful, like revive

It's scanner sweep dude. You might think you know what the Protoss is making and use a MULE, but you can't see into their base. Sweep lets you do that. Starcraft site FTW.
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
October 06 2011 20:31 GMT
#646
On October 07 2011 05:24 Drekor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 04:25 Caller wrote:
i still don't understand the point of cv

the point of cv is to use it on places where you suspect somebody is
so why not just tell them "i think the guy is here" and take something more useful, like revive

CV is the for information. You can say "I suspect the jungler should be doing red right now then ganking". CV will say "The jungler IS doing red" and it'll show him run off towards a lane. The difference between this is huge. In former you may take defensive measures when it's not necessary or you may have mistimed things. CV allows you certainty in what is going on. It's the same thing with wards. You can always suspect someone is in that brush but a ward will tell you for sure. Map control is a HUGE part of winning games consistently.


The "like revive" part makes me think he is trolling. Or is he new to the game?
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 06 2011 20:33 GMT
#647
On October 07 2011 05:31 ibreakurface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 05:24 Drekor wrote:
On October 07 2011 04:25 Caller wrote:
i still don't understand the point of cv

the point of cv is to use it on places where you suspect somebody is
so why not just tell them "i think the guy is here" and take something more useful, like revive

CV is the for information. You can say "I suspect the jungler should be doing red right now then ganking". CV will say "The jungler IS doing red" and it'll show him run off towards a lane. The difference between this is huge. In former you may take defensive measures when it's not necessary or you may have mistimed things. CV allows you certainty in what is going on. It's the same thing with wards. You can always suspect someone is in that brush but a ward will tell you for sure. Map control is a HUGE part of winning games consistently.


The "like revive" part makes me think he is trolling. Or is he new to the game?

Should look up his tier list post me thinks.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
October 06 2011 20:34 GMT
#648
Caller posts every month or so and still trolls just fine, Uta needs to learn from Caller's example.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 06 2011 20:34 GMT
#649
On October 07 2011 05:24 Drekor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 04:25 Caller wrote:
i still don't understand the point of cv

the point of cv is to use it on places where you suspect somebody is
so why not just tell them "i think the guy is here" and take something more useful, like revive

CV is the for information. You can say "I suspect the jungler should be doing red right now then ganking". CV will say "The jungler IS doing red" and it'll show him run off towards a lane. The difference between this is huge. In former you may take defensive measures when it's not necessary or you may have mistimed things. CV allows you certainty in what is going on. It's the same thing with wards. You can always suspect someone is in that brush but a ward will tell you for sure. Map control is a HUGE part of winning games consistently.


Its basically like a comsat in starcraft lol... playing without CV now makes me feel like I am missing an eye. If enemy is doing barron, then you don't want to facecheck it or walk halfway across the ma, you want cv. If you think they are ganking you want cv. If they invade, cv. If you want to fight and see where they are, cv. If you want to chase and see where they are running to, cv. etc
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 06 2011 20:34 GMT
#650
On October 07 2011 05:29 Alzadar wrote:
Nobody answered me, what do you guys think of sending Ryze top against Garen?

I mean, it's not something you see a lot. Get a friend for a custom match and try it out. Garen might be able to deny farm decently until Ryze gets items, but once Ryze is built and has his full combo ready, he'll own. I don't play enough to call it off the top of my head.

tl;dr, it'll be pretty close depending on the players, but I think Ryze wins once he gets Tear/W.
It's your boy Guzma!
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
October 06 2011 20:41 GMT
#651
On October 07 2011 05:13 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 04:52 Zenithal wrote:
Navi, where are you? You promised a Riven guide D:


only 1 person seemed interested
now its a whopping 2 hue
i work on eet

I've been looking for a good Riven guide for a while now :D She's so fun to play but I feel like I have no idea what to do with her.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
October 06 2011 20:44 GMT
#652
On October 07 2011 05:16 Sabin010 wrote:
Caitlyn's ult is pretty bad ass. Poppy's ult lets her 5v1 pretty efficiently. Leona has a bad ass ultimate, GP ult is pretty good too.


It's not 5v1, it's 1v1 with four spectators.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
October 06 2011 20:49 GMT
#653
Dem perverts, it seems like EVERYONE is playing cait with the new skin
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 06 2011 20:51 GMT
#654
cv is bad in solo queue, just take ignite on whatever badass support your playing (alistar/taric/stun faggot) and then exhaust/ignite c0mb0 2 str0nk
Brees on in
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 20:52:45
October 06 2011 20:52 GMT
#655
On October 07 2011 05:49 Kaniol wrote:
Dem perverts, it seems like EVERYONE is playing cait with the new skin


You can't even see boobs from the isometric perspective....


I can only imagine what these people did when they played FF7 and say tifa's pyramid tits
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 06 2011 20:52 GMT
#656
On October 07 2011 05:49 Kaniol wrote:
Dem perverts, it seems like EVERYONE is playing cait with the new skin

I don't really care about the outfit, but dat gun is so bad ass.
It's your boy Guzma!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 06 2011 20:54 GMT
#657
On October 07 2011 05:49 Kaniol wrote:
Dem perverts, it seems like EVERYONE is playing cait with the new skin

Now not only can you be a [insert noun] at bot lane, you can look the part too.

On October 07 2011 05:44 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 05:16 Sabin010 wrote:
Caitlyn's ult is pretty bad ass. Poppy's ult lets her 5v1 pretty efficiently. Leona has a bad ass ultimate, GP ult is pretty good too.


It's not 5v1, it's 1v1 with four spectators.

You can still CC Poppy at the very least. But in Solo Queue, no one thinks about that.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 06 2011 21:02 GMT
#658
point is whatever you were doing wasnt counterjungling its called getting your shit taken then trying to take his shit at the risk of being even more behind
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 06 2011 21:06 GMT
#659
On October 07 2011 05:51 Brees wrote:
cv is bad in solo queue, just take ignite on whatever badass support your playing (alistar/taric/stun faggot) and then exhaust/ignite c0mb0 2 str0nk

Wat. Map awareness + cv means you secure like a thousand kills because people always get away with 1 HP and a brush juke.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Skipper240
Profile Joined August 2010
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 21:13:16
October 06 2011 21:12 GMT
#660
I like scoring kills with Caitlyn's ultimate when enemies try to deny themselves on towers.

The kill credit is applied during the windup, so you don't even have to deal damage to them. You just have to be in range to cast your ult.
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