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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 20:32:11
October 16 2011 20:31 GMT
#2641
They also made spellvamp a unique passive.
(In case it hasn't been mentioned yet)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
October 16 2011 20:39 GMT
#2642
On October 17 2011 05:31 hasuprotoss wrote:
They also made spellvamp a unique passive.
(In case it hasn't been mentioned yet)

Patch preview mentioned that was just for Dominion.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
October 16 2011 20:44 GMT
#2643
The change is only intended to make a significant difference in dominion games, but the same change will happen in SR. They just said it was 'just for dominion' because you rarely see gunblade stacking in 5v5.
:3
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#2644
Twisted Fate as a support:

- Grants bonus gold for your entire team
- Has a long range poke and decent CC to help harass
- Can use ultimate to find all enemy players on the map


Thoughts?
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SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
October 16 2011 21:06 GMT
#2645
On October 17 2011 05:58 STS17 wrote:
Twisted Fate as a support:

- Grants bonus gold for your entire team
- Has a long range poke and decent CC to help harass
- Can use ultimate to find all enemy players on the map


Thoughts?


I've always been a fan of non-traditional supports, especially cause I play HoN as well and what constitutes a support in that game is completely different. I think TF could work, but after level 6 or so he's fairly item dependent to do any damage at all. Maybe do the normal gp/5 support thing, but get kindlegem instead of HoG for the CDR so you can spam more often (and destiny more often.)
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
October 16 2011 21:09 GMT
#2646
On October 17 2011 05:15 Ryuu314 wrote:
So they nerfed Gunblade without patching everything else or releasing patch notes? That's new lol

It's a change in PVP.net only. No in-game change yet.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 16 2011 21:13 GMT
#2647
On October 17 2011 06:06 SpaceToaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 05:58 STS17 wrote:
Twisted Fate as a support:

- Grants bonus gold for your entire team
- Has a long range poke and decent CC to help harass
- Can use ultimate to find all enemy players on the map


Thoughts?


I've always been a fan of non-traditional supports, especially cause I play HoN as well and what constitutes a support in that game is completely different. I think TF could work, but after level 6 or so he's fairly item dependent to do any damage at all. Maybe do the normal gp/5 support thing, but get kindlegem instead of HoG for the CDR so you can spam more often (and destiny more often.)


i feel like his poke is kinda crappy if you aren't strictly building AP
also it could potentially push the creep wave if you aren't careful

but otherwise it sounds kinda fun
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 16 2011 21:14 GMT
#2648
Such a losing streak. Either it's some moron up top who will feed Akali (and they always do) or it's a group of frenchies that don't understand that just because you can't see Twitch that don't mean he's not there.

Ugh the french...
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 16 2011 21:16 GMT
#2649
Carry harder, if akali is being fed top just go kill that bitch no matter where you are.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
October 16 2011 21:22 GMT
#2650
On October 17 2011 06:13 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 06:06 SpaceToaster wrote:
On October 17 2011 05:58 STS17 wrote:
Twisted Fate as a support:

- Grants bonus gold for your entire team
- Has a long range poke and decent CC to help harass
- Can use ultimate to find all enemy players on the map


Thoughts?


I've always been a fan of non-traditional supports, especially cause I play HoN as well and what constitutes a support in that game is completely different. I think TF could work, but after level 6 or so he's fairly item dependent to do any damage at all. Maybe do the normal gp/5 support thing, but get kindlegem instead of HoG for the CDR so you can spam more often (and destiny more often.)


i feel like his poke is kinda crappy if you aren't strictly building AP
also it could potentially push the creep wave if you aren't careful

but otherwise it sounds kinda fun


Xpecial plays a beast support TF lol
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-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 21:27:36
October 16 2011 21:26 GMT
#2651
What about support Ashe? AoE slow, 1 target permaslow and best stun/initiation in game, an extra CV too. The passive can help you harrass with them crits.

Imagine an Ashe protecting a Cait, stun the guy slow him, slow him again, he ded.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 21:30:29
October 16 2011 21:27 GMT
#2652
Gold card is beast in lane, and with some CDR items you have quite the ridiculous gold card spam later on to protect your carries.

I just wish Riot would make it so that you could press W and then Q, W or E depending on what card you want. It's ridiculously hard to pull the proper card quickly when you play on high latency (200+).

Ashe is a weak laner to begin with. Most people don't really realize it, but supports typically are very strong laners (sometimes just very strong duo laners) and they need to be. Ashe Cait kinda works because Cait just doesn't care too much.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2011 21:28 GMT
#2653
On October 17 2011 06:26 -Kato- wrote:
What about support Ashe? AoE slow, 1 target permaslow and best stun/initiation in game, an extra CV too. The passive can help you harrass with them crits.

Imagine an Ashe protecting a Cait, stun the guy slow him, slow him again, he ded.

Support Ashe isn't that odd, and is pretty beast. Slows, free CV, stun, npnp.
It's your boy Guzma!
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
October 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#2654
What does support TF really give you that support Taric doesn't though? TF's ult is pretty underwhelming when you put it on a champ who loses 1v1 to anyone on the enemy team except maybe their support.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 16 2011 21:38 GMT
#2655
if you run support tf it would mean you are running blitz top or some very no banshee veil dependent character. People sometime forget that TF's ult clears the other team of all veils, probably its most useful feature in its nerfed state.
Brees on in
SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
October 16 2011 22:00 GMT
#2656
On October 17 2011 06:35 crate wrote:
What does support TF really give you that support Taric doesn't though? TF's ult is pretty underwhelming when you put it on a champ who loses 1v1 to anyone on the enemy team except maybe their support.


I could see him being a pretty good roamer/ganker post 6 if you put him with Cait, or any AD thats not terribly babysit dependent. Post nerf gate can walk up and gank mid and be able to get back to help bot if something goes wrong. Could even run TP as well, and be super mobile. Probably only viable for pubstomping though.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
October 16 2011 22:06 GMT
#2657
On October 17 2011 06:35 crate wrote:
What does support TF really give you that support Taric doesn't though? TF's ult is pretty underwhelming when you put it on a champ who loses 1v1 to anyone on the enemy team except maybe their support.


You don't have to tele, just use it for vision. Support TF gives extra gold for your team as well as he is able to spam skills without running out of mana.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 22:37:40
October 16 2011 22:34 GMT
#2658
Mundo supports where he pleases, always cleaver for bush control never not cleaver.

On a less troll note: support Anivia seems like it would be perfectly viable. Q is one of the few skills that can stun more than one person, Wall is possibly the best peel in the game(if placed properly), and egg makes it a HUGE deterrent to just jump on her to win an early game engagement. She's already kind of a 'utility' AP champ, and without blue buffs you won't be able to spam ult+E combos for damage, but she can be very protective.
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 16 2011 22:54 GMT
#2659
Pretty much made a lot of the AP/AD carries into a support role, lol.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 23:12:25
October 16 2011 23:12 GMT
#2660
Hmm, with support TF, would you prioritize W or E? The former would give you better poke and utility, but the latter would mean that your W would be up more often, as well as giving you a bit more damage if you need to trade in lane. I'm assuming you don't level Q early on, since without decent AP it's a bit weak.
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