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LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
October 14 2011 15:57 GMT
#2301
looool, I got raped. Being grilled by 3 different people about vehicle dynamics is sooo fun. Talk about a fucking interrogation.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 14 2011 15:57 GMT
#2302
eh just never surrender vs a xerath, hes like a slightly better leblanc. Dominates the first 20 minutes then falls off realllly hard. Hard engages counter him hard. (ashe, amumu, etc)
Brees on in
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 14 2011 16:06 GMT
#2303
On October 15 2011 00:57 Brees wrote:
eh just never surrender vs a xerath, hes like a slightly better leblanc. Dominates the first 20 minutes then falls off realllly hard. Hard engages counter him hard. (ashe, amumu, etc)


he's like a better leblanc mixed with a better anivia on account of you can't push on him because he can clear a creep wave from inside his fountain mixed with a better vlad because you can't assasinate him either thanks to his passive

but yeah, you were close
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 14 2011 16:07 GMT
#2304
On October 15 2011 01:06 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 00:57 Brees wrote:
eh just never surrender vs a xerath, hes like a slightly better leblanc. Dominates the first 20 minutes then falls off realllly hard. Hard engages counter him hard. (ashe, amumu, etc)


he's like a better leblanc mixed with a better anivia on account of you can't push on him because he can clear a creep wave from inside his fountain mixed with a better vlad because you can't assasinate him either thanks to his passive

but yeah, you were close


are you trying to say hes good? because hes a pretty awful character
Brees on in
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#2305
On October 15 2011 01:07 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 01:06 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:57 Brees wrote:
eh just never surrender vs a xerath, hes like a slightly better leblanc. Dominates the first 20 minutes then falls off realllly hard. Hard engages counter him hard. (ashe, amumu, etc)


he's like a better leblanc mixed with a better anivia on account of you can't push on him because he can clear a creep wave from inside his fountain mixed with a better vlad because you can't assasinate him either thanks to his passive

but yeah, you were close


are you trying to say hes good? because hes a pretty awful character


if he was available in IEM, he would have been top ban, so yeah
he's retardedly strong even in the hands of someone new to him
any amount of practice at all on him and he's a real terror
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 16:26:12
October 14 2011 16:25 GMT
#2306
On October 15 2011 00:57 Brees wrote:
eh just never surrender vs a xerath, hes like a slightly better leblanc. Dominates the first 20 minutes then falls off realllly hard. Hard engages counter him hard. (ashe, amumu, etc)

He doesn't fall off at all, wtf. He's the best mid and lategame siege champ in the entire game. If the enemy team can't force the fight off a tower (sup having baron) they almost automatically lose.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 14 2011 16:32 GMT
#2307
Aside from mobile anti-seige champions like Gragas, not a whole lot of things can deal with Xerath because his damage simply doesn't fall off because of his retarded 30% magic pen on top of which if you screw up an initiation on him or hesitate, one of your team just lost half their HP and you are forced to give up tower.

He really feels like a champion that EU would enjoy more than US, since he's hella good in a double-AP team-comp that don't rely on bruisers and thus have no real incentive to get into the other team's face.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 14 2011 16:41 GMT
#2308
hahaha wow people are crazy in here. xerath is garbage
Brees on in
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2011 16:45 GMT
#2309
I still think he's a rather boring champ, but I'm starting to think Wukong is actually really fucking good D: Tanky dps with bitching AoE ult that has an amazing escape/stealth. I can't play him worth shit, but holy crap have there been some good ones lately.
It's your boy Guzma!
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
October 14 2011 16:46 GMT
#2310
How does he fall off late game? He has a more or less infinite range stun. If you're even the slightest bit out of position vs a good Xerath you're going to die.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
October 14 2011 17:02 GMT
#2311
people dont know how to play xerath yet but once you get a good xerath with a team that can use his abilities well he will be incredibly powerful. he has a completely new role.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
October 14 2011 17:06 GMT
#2312
It's like, he doesn't even have to have good damage (Which he does), his ability to constantly stun at the longest range of any stun in the game (minus ashe arrow which is a long cd and much easier to miss) more than makes up for any damage he supposedly lacks (Which he doesn't)
3.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 17:20:27
October 14 2011 17:17 GMT
#2313
Xerath has some of the best scaling around, 3.1/AP on his whole combo. Compare that to 2.3/AP on Brand (with only one hit from his ultimate, perfect bounces makes it 3.3), then consider Xerath's free 30% magic penetration and insane range. Brand's base combo will do 1055 damage, Xerath's will do 1330. And Xerath can reliably hit you with everything at 1000 range, Brand can't.
I am the Town Medic.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 14 2011 17:19 GMT
#2314
Here are my thoughts on Xerath.

I believe it is best to take 3 points in strength of spirit, and build a catalyst first (you can start boots, mana gem, or dorans ring). This gives incredible sustain. Your next buy is entirely game dependant, but should be along the lines of RoA (if you skip this get banshee's veil after an ap item or two), Mejai's(only if owning your lane and have multiple kills, or forced the enemy solo'r back so many times you've a huge cs advantage), rabadon's because we go 0/9/21 we need to buy void staff for that extra magic penetration. If you want cdr get something along the lines of Codex after a Rabadon's, or frozen heart vs multiple attackspeed ad compositions
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
October 14 2011 17:20 GMT
#2315
Just realised how insanely strong Kat is. Good lord.
currently rooting for myself.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
October 14 2011 17:21 GMT
#2316
Can xerath also unload a full combo in less than a second?
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 17:31:59
October 14 2011 17:31 GMT
#2317
Does archon's spellpen from W stack with other sources? Is the hard cap still 55%?

Like sorcery + voidstaff + W = ignore all the magic res?
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 14 2011 17:36 GMT
#2318
On October 15 2011 02:31 Haemonculus wrote:
Does archon's spellpen from W stack with other sources? Is the hard cap still 55%?

Like sorcery + voidstaff + W = ignore all the magic res?


i believe someone calculated it to be around 63% mpen?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 14 2011 17:42 GMT
#2319
On October 15 2011 02:31 Haemonculus wrote:
Does archon's spellpen from W stack with other sources? Is the hard cap still 55%?

Like sorcery + voidstaff + W = ignore all the magic res?


I believe it's multiplicative, not additive.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 17:48:41
October 14 2011 17:46 GMT
#2320
With a team supporting him, Xerath can siege a tower forever, which forces you to engage him, or give up the turret. Assassinating him, as mentioned, is completely out of the question unless you are Akali. With his range, he can actually snipe carries in a team fight without putting himself in too bad a position. With some spellvamp Xerath can completely ignore tanks/tanky ad people that try to kill him.

You really need siege breakers to fend him off properly. Nidalee loves Xeraths on enemy teams. Siege up? Have a spear.
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