EPTSo when I'm in a jungle it's frustrating. It's why my playstyle as support tends to be a bit "off" from other people too.
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
So when I'm in a jungle it's frustrating. It's why my playstyle as support tends to be a bit "off" from other people too. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:31 BlueBird. wrote: Some junglers might not gank enough, maybe.. but ganking early is not effective with some champs anyways. And sometimes its just not a good idea to take that much time to go walk over a ward. Now if that lane counter warded for you..... Ya when someone on your team pushes super hard and they get ganked they start to whine Omg their jungler gank why you never gank omg noob etc etc. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:33 Southlight wrote: I hate jungling because I consider myself an above average laner and so I usually "carry" be curbstomping my opponent in lane. It's just my playstyle and my mentality entering any game. So when I'm in a jungle it's frustrating. It's why my playstyle as support tends to be a bit "off" from other people too. im pretty sure that a jungler has more effect on how a game goes than a single laner, though i understand where your mentality comes from still, a good jungler can win games more easily | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
Probably why the only heroes I like jungling with anymore are Rammus and Fiddle. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On September 19 2011 07:58 Jaso wrote: bigfatjiji telling HSGG how to use a passport on stream.. sooooooooo funny. i go takuh da pikcha need to takuh da pikcha i go takuh poopoo first <3 bfjj(chinese myself, lol) Lol, but he's just trolling when he talks like that. He's not really that fob is he? | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
I don't have huge problems with counterjungling though, i just spam pings and "jax stand here" over and over again till they are placed properly. I guess jungling is good for people who can ignore allied whining while not using the /ignore (or mute) command :x | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:09 Nikon wrote: The problem is that you get way less farm from the jungle than from laning. Sometimes people just lose their lanes, no matter how much you gank, and it's exponentially harder to overcome enemy hard hitters with less farm. You know. Jungling is kinda like splitting farm bottom, with a bit increased map presence. There's an easy fix for this, always jungle, never gank, when a teammate is about to die go to their lane and farm it while they're gone:p. Always jungle always push lanes. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:40 NeoIllusions wrote: It's much harder to be a good jungler than a good laner. But the reward on a game seems higher ! Since I switched from solo mid Orianna to jungle Fiddle I can ensure you I carry way more games, and I used to score 2-3 lane kills with Orianna while being quite good on last hits. Junglers are the most important part of a team composition to me, and also the most interesting. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:18 JackDino wrote: There's an easy fix for this, always jungle, never gank, when a teammate is about to die go to their lane and farm it while they're gone:p. Always jungle always push lanes. this is my mummy strat just add the part where you gank every 3 minutes when your cooldowns are reset and you bought a new fun item with all that gold  | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:18 JackDino wrote: There's an easy fix for this, always jungle, never gank, when a teammate is about to die go to their lane and farm it while they're gone:p. Always jungle always push lanes. If that's what you do, why not take a solo lane to begin with? -.-;; On September 19 2011 18:18 mr_tolkien wrote: But the reward on a game seems higher ! Since I switched from solo mid Orianna to jungle Fiddle I can ensure you I carry way more games, and I used to score 2-3 lane kills with Orianna while being quite good on last hits. Junglers are the most important part of a team composition to me, and also the most interesting. It's also the hardest one to get anything done with, depending on teammates. Assuming you're at a level where your teammates don't push 24/7, the other guy will probably have wards. This makes ganking really inefficient time sink. Unless you pick Lee Sin and metagolem someone  Then at least you can assure that your team wins 1 lane super hard, maybe kill their jungler when he comes to help too. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:24 Nikon wrote: If that's what you do, why not take a solo lane to begin with? -.-;; Jungling IS a solo lane in fact, the particularity is that it's in your territory and links the other lanes :p Jungle is the 4th lane ! | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Most oracles only come into play when the lane phase is over but perhaps certain supports can get away with getting it as their 2nd item. Opening oracles might be pushing it. Still it would be a waste to spend 400g so early on an oracle wich you could end up losing. You would have to be a 100% sure that your jungler is a good player. If the jungler is bad then the other team can just play super agressive and try to kill you. Hell playing super agressive might even prevent you from being able to get to the river wards and take them down. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:40 zalz wrote: I wonder wether 400g is worth the advantage of being able to clear out wards and opening your lane for the jungler. Most oracles only come into play when the lane phase is over but perhaps certain supports can get away with getting it as their 2nd item. Opening oracles might be pushing it. Still it would be a waste to spend 400g so early on an oracle wich you could end up losing. You would have to be a 100% sure that your jungler is a good player. If the jungler is bad then the other team can just play super agressive and try to kill you. Hell playing super agressive might even prevent you from being able to get to the river wards and take them down. As a support I don't tend to get oracles early cause I'm not brave and assume I'll die. But when I'm on a tankier jungler like WW if i get even a little ahead early game I'll buy it on my first or second trip back to base. The earlier you grab an oracles(assuming you play safe and keep it for a bit) the stronger hold of map control you can take early, snowballing the game towards your team. Edit: It's almost page 69 again, lets see if unichan misses posting again | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
I was bored and went through my big roster of champions to find one to amuse me but Renekton is actually pretty good. He's a ton of fun and he curb stomps a lot of champions on top. Only downside is that i tend to get enraged at players who play defensive and i start Q-spamming entire minion waves and basically put a big sign out inviting all junglers to pay me a visit. Ooh well not like you can gank this double dashing stun selfheal 600HP ulti beast. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:13 Kaniol wrote: Why do people hate jungling so much, it's probably the most fun role in the game but i can't really practice any champs that are not jungling because nobody wants to jungle in normals >.< Why do people hate playing support so much, it's probably the most fun role in the game but I can't really practice any champs that are not supports because nobody wants to support in normals >.< + Show Spoiler [TOP SECRET] + Different people have fun with different things. The majority though likes to be able to 1v3 once every 100 games (because then they feel so awesome for the next 99 games they suck), which is much harder to do as jungle or support. | ||
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