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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 04 2011 08:39 GMT
#4161
why is Kog Maw and MF always free recently? I dont really understand it.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 04 2011 08:48 GMT
#4162
On October 04 2011 17:14 Lorken wrote:
I realized that my gameplay's got a lot more passive lately and I concentrate more on farming than constantly trying to kill people is this a good or bad thing? Also, which characters are best to learn to harass in moderation with?


Pantheon is king of harass.

Infact if you don't harass with him he doesn't work since he needs kills to survive the midgame.
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
October 04 2011 08:56 GMT
#4163
Kennen is, sooo much opertunity to harass, keeping your cs high whilst feeling the urge is a good way to learn to do both properly.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
October 04 2011 08:59 GMT
#4164
On October 04 2011 17:14 Lorken wrote:
I realized that my gameplay's got a lot more passive lately and I concentrate more on farming than constantly trying to kill people is this a good or bad thing? Also, which characters are best to learn to harass in moderation with?
nidalee maybe? blitzcrank?
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 04 2011 09:00 GMT
#4165
Any character with a ranged autoattack can easily harass, really. Just shoot them any time they come in range and back up quick to avoid minion damage. Not that simple, of course, but I think thats the essence of it.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 04 2011 09:11 GMT
#4166
Concentrating on farming is better than focussing on kills assuming you dont die and you're ahead in cs.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
October 04 2011 09:19 GMT
#4167
I just feel that most attacks are pretty weak without farm/items/higher levels so I just concentrate on farming most of the time. I played Ezreal again after such a long time, he's really easy to harass with while also farming well. The good thing about harass is that it gets you kills early if they don't run away or underestimate you.
LOUD NOISES!!!
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 04 2011 09:34 GMT
#4168
On October 04 2011 18:19 Lorken wrote:
I just feel that most attacks are pretty weak without farm/items/higher levels so I just concentrate on farming most of the time. I played Ezreal again after such a long time, he's really easy to harass with while also farming well. The good thing about harass is that it gets you kills early if they don't run away or underestimate you.

Except they do maybe 40-50 damage, and you can autoattack a lot if you control well. The damage adds up - especially if people aren't very good they'll lane very aggressively and you can just shoot at them from behind your minions. If they go to move in on you they'll suck minion hits and you won't because you're far enough back.

Basically, if your opponent moves forward to take last hits, and you don't have a last hit to take yourself, shoot your opponent. It'll wear them down. Ovbiously if they have regrowth/Doran's Shield or are warwick or something then it won't though. Use your judgement.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 09:41:20
October 04 2011 09:40 GMT
#4169
If you have creep advantage or are positioned such that they're near your creeps and you aren't near theirs, you should be harassing w/ auto attacks.
twitch.tv/cratonz
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 04 2011 10:13 GMT
#4170
On October 04 2011 17:14 Lorken wrote:
I realized that my gameplay's got a lot more passive lately and I concentrate more on farming than constantly trying to kill people is this a good or bad thing? Also, which characters are best to learn to harass in moderation with?


renek, he is all aggression all the time
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 04 2011 10:58 GMT
#4171
Looks like a good free week. Vayne, Kog'Maw, Garen, Fiddlesticks, Nidalee to try or play again... already have Morgana and Kassadin I didn't like that much tho.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
October 04 2011 11:06 GMT
#4172
Ah sweet. Get to finally try out Kog'Maw. Been a long time coming.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 11:17:07
October 04 2011 11:14 GMT
#4173
I shall fail at AD this week.

On October 04 2011 17:39 RogerX wrote:
why is Kog Maw and MF always free recently? I dont really understand it.

Twice each in 9 weeks is just so much.
twitch.tv/cratonz
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 04 2011 12:16 GMT
#4174
On October 04 2011 20:14 Craton wrote:
I shall fail at AD this week.

Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:39 RogerX wrote:
why is Kog Maw and MF always free recently? I dont really understand it.

Twice each in 9 weeks is just so much.

Well, perhaps not Kog Maw, but I feel as if MF has been quite frequent.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:27:48
October 04 2011 12:25 GMT
#4175
On October 04 2011 18:19 Lorken wrote:
I just feel that most attacks are pretty weak without farm/items/higher levels so I just concentrate on farming most of the time. I played Ezreal again after such a long time, he's really easy to harass with while also farming well. The good thing about harass is that it gets you kills early if they don't run away or underestimate you.

Free harass is free harass. Take it when it's free, but don't work too hard for it. Particularly at lower levels of play, there will be lots of times where your opponents expose themselves to harass when you aren't losing CS/putting yourself at risk for it--meaning it's 100% free.

TBH if you're at the level where you need to ask this question, you're probably also at the level where your opponents are exposing themselves to enough free harass that it shouldn't matter--if you take all the opportunities where they misplay and expose themselves to harass when you don't have to give up farm to harass them, you'll shove them out of lane.
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
October 04 2011 12:45 GMT
#4176
On October 04 2011 17:39 RogerX wrote:
why is Kog Maw and MF always free recently? I dont really understand it.

I think they like to have a reasonable amount of data so they can balance accordingly, and noobs using these champs helps a lot with that, to me that is the only reasonable reason.
in The Kong line forever
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#4177
I really need to learn to play more junglers. I'm good at ww and understand him pretty well, but aside from that I am totally lost on junglers.

Who should I try to pick up? Ree sin? Mumu (failed hard with him yesterday wololo) yi? Who to playyyyy
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 04 2011 12:57 GMT
#4178
Lee sin is pretty difficult to jungle at first, same goes for noc. I'm guessing that you already have your runes, you should try uhh.. is Mumu Nunu or Amumu for you idk.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
October 04 2011 13:04 GMT
#4179
What, how can you even call Noc hard hes the Caitlyn of the jungle, the Annie of the bushes.

Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 04 2011 13:05 GMT
#4180
On October 04 2011 21:52 Haemonculus wrote:
I really need to learn to play more junglers. I'm good at ww and understand him pretty well, but aside from that I am totally lost on junglers.

Who should I try to pick up? Ree sin? Mumu (failed hard with him yesterday wololo) yi? Who to playyyyy


Noc will be a fairly easy transition. You can do any path and can opt for the "rush 6" philosophy similar to ww, then after you get a feel for him go for earlier and earlier ganks. Udyr is also a good bet although you are pretty reliant on blue if you do tiger. Xin is also easy if you want early ganks.

Mumu is the easiest skillshot jungler you can learn. Lee is actually a very complex champion and will take you a while to get used to.
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