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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 02:36:40
October 04 2011 02:34 GMT
#4121
On October 04 2011 10:38 Nikon wrote:
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On October 04 2011 10:28 Ryuu314 wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:23 STS17 wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:19 UniversalSnip wrote:
On October 04 2011 09:56 BlackMagister wrote:
Do people hate Yorick's design or his balance? I've only played vs him in Dominion and he is a beast there.


design. worst designed champion in the game... it's not even close. makes all star hits like vlad seem elegant and polished.


Why is his design so bad?

Because his kit revolves around very spammable spells that give +mspd, slow, and sustain. Either the damage numbers are low and he does no damage and/or the mana costs are high and he goes oom instantly OR the damage numbers are high and he wears you down super fast and/or the mana costs are low and he spams you out of lane while staying full hp.

IMO, they should just completely remake his E. Make it do something other than sustain. The whole idea of a spammy champ that constantly summons shit is cool, just not when it also makes him immovable in lane. It's almost as bad as pre-nerf Landyr. They should make it deal damage and drain mana or smth rather than dealing damage and healing Yorick. It's the Omen of Famine so making it drain mana so you "starve" your opponent of energy would be cool. Either way, E's design atm is just quite broken.


I don't think that Riot would ever make Yorick's E drain mana. They reworked Wit's End so it wouldn't have the same effect after all >_>

Yea I know...but tbh almost anything would be better than E right now. Currently it's just batshit stupid skill. And I'm saying that as a Yorick player who abused him in season 1 to gain like 150 elo lol
On October 04 2011 11:28 overt wrote:
So Maokai is such a fucking boss. Get Rod of Ages and build straight tank is just really strong.

I'm glad that he's being played some in jungle but honestly I think he can probably solo top pretty well against certain match ups. He has a little bit of sustain plus that E is just so fucking good in lane.

I think I might start playing him more over Cho'Gath for an AP bruiser guy.

Maokai works freaking everywhere lol. He has the sustain for top, the burst for mid, he can go bot as support pretty well too (as demonstrated by Dignitas), and he can jungle pretty darn well with good ganks too.

I always just go RoA -> tank/triforce/deathcap. Works pretty well usually.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 04 2011 02:35 GMT
#4122
On October 04 2011 11:30 TheYango wrote:
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On October 04 2011 11:28 overt wrote:
So Maokai is such a fucking boss. Get Rod of Ages and build straight tank is just really strong.

I'm glad that he's being played some in jungle but honestly I think he can probably solo top pretty well against certain match ups. He has a little bit of sustain plus that E is just so fucking good in lane.

I think I might start playing him more over Cho'Gath for an AP bruiser guy.

AP Bruiser Cho'gath is so last year.

Tank->Wit's End Cho is where it's at.

EDIT: And playing Maokai top wastes the fact that Jungle Mao has one of the most brutal jungle ganks in the game.


I like to get RoA still on Cho and get Wit's after I have Frozen Heart or FoN depending on other team. I know that Mao is probably better in jungle but he's just so fun in lane. Your jungler ganks for you and you W first it's almost guaranteed kill or else they blow a flash.

Still definitely better in jungle though, I agree.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 04 2011 02:53 GMT
#4123
On October 04 2011 11:20 TheYango wrote:
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On October 04 2011 10:49 MoonBear wrote:
Until Guinsoo's jungle changes, nearly all champions designed for the jungle will inherently be powerful in lane as a result (exceptions apply of course). I touched on it briefly when I talked about the problem with Wriggles and the nature of jungling.

No one has yet convinced me that Wriggle's is such an enormous improvement over 3xDBlade that it's absolutely a problem in lane.

They're situationally better than one another, but they're close enough that I don't think you can really say laners are significantly stronger with Wriggle's than they would otherwise be.

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On October 04 2011 11:03 Mogwai wrote:
olaf real strong in top lane cause brees and spud say so

See, I was going to give examples like Nocturne or Olaf, except for every damn jungler, there's always someone on TL championing them top lane.

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On October 04 2011 11:07 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, apparently they meant for skarner to be a jungle but fucked his numbers over right before release because he was too fast. Unfortunately, his kit REALLY sucks for a jungle.

It makes no sense to me why they would consider Skarner being fast a problem, when Phoenix Udyr is probably the most directly comparable jungler, and also happens to be the fastest or 2nd-fastest commonly picked jungler right now.

Udyr has hard cc
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
October 04 2011 02:56 GMT
#4124
I didn't see yorick being free this week was going to play him a bit so I'd know what hes like.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 04 2011 02:59 GMT
#4125
But Yorick is free this week o.O hes really fun solo mid :3
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 04 2011 03:05 GMT
#4126
my teacher is playing league of legends in class and I'm so jelly. He's playing on the projector screen so the whole class can watch while we work on our video game designs =,=
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
October 04 2011 03:22 GMT
#4127
WTF IS THIS SMARTCAST SHITZ.
TOTALLY IMBA.
WHY DIDNT I KNOW ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
October 04 2011 03:22 GMT
#4128
On October 04 2011 12:05 Phrost wrote:
my teacher is playing league of legends in class and I'm so jelly. He's playing on the projector screen so the whole class can watch while we work on our video game designs =,=

robert stop posting on TL and get back to work
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 04 2011 03:23 GMT
#4129
On October 04 2011 12:22 redtooth wrote:
WTF IS THIS SMARTCAST SHITZ.
TOTALLY IMBA.
WHY DIDNT I KNOW ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

You can use Ctrl-QWER to level skills and Alt-QWER to use skills on yourself.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 04 2011 03:24 GMT
#4130
On October 04 2011 12:22 Attakijing wrote:
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On October 04 2011 12:05 Phrost wrote:
my teacher is playing league of legends in class and I'm so jelly. He's playing on the projector screen so the whole class can watch while we work on our video game designs =,=

robert stop posting on TL and get back to work


What? I'm working. My group asks me design questions, I give answers and then go back to trolling TL or looking for sprites.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
October 04 2011 03:24 GMT
#4131
self cast i knew about. smart cast is totally broken wtf.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 04 2011 03:26 GMT
#4132
On October 04 2011 12:24 redtooth wrote:
self cast i knew about. smart cast is totally broken wtf.

Don't forget to turn on Motion Prediction. It compensates for lag, making skillshots still hit even if you miss by a bit to compensate for ping.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 04 2011 03:27 GMT
#4133
On October 04 2011 12:24 redtooth wrote:
self cast i knew about. smart cast is totally broken wtf.

so newb LOL. no wonder your kat isn't Scarra or Shakedrizzle level.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 04 2011 03:45 GMT
#4134
I think im going to Que dodge until my elo is the lowest possible. So then maybe I won't care about losing in ranked like i dont care about losing in normal.
Never Knows Best.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:49:05
October 04 2011 03:48 GMT
#4135
rong thread
twitch.tv/cratonz
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 04:09:21
October 04 2011 04:09 GMT
#4136
so... towers don't give global xp anymore? how long has it been like this?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 04:14:06
October 04 2011 04:13 GMT
#4137
On October 04 2011 10:45 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 10:41 TheYango wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:28 Ryuu314 wrote:
Because his kit revolves around very spammable spells that give +mspd, slow, and sustain. Either the damage numbers are low and he does no damage and/or the mana costs are high and he goes oom instantly OR the damage numbers are high and he wears you down super fast and/or the mana costs are low and he spams you out of lane while staying full hp.

I believe this one is possible to balance if you say "fuck letting him lane" and balance around him being a jungler.

great idea, cause there are so many junglers who are balanced around jungling who don't end up being OP as balls in top lane.

there's uhhh...

let's see...

mmm...

...


..

Amumu?

That's about it.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
October 04 2011 04:22 GMT
#4138
Just confirmed they give global exp. Got 30 (no masteries) at ~6 minutes.
twitch.tv/cratonz
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 04:24:32
October 04 2011 04:23 GMT
#4139
On October 04 2011 11:28 overt wrote:
So Maokai is such a fucking boss. Get Rod of Ages and build straight tank is just really strong.

I'm glad that he's being played some in jungle but honestly I think he can probably solo top pretty well against certain match ups. He has a little bit of sustain plus that E is just so fucking good in lane.

I think I might start playing him more over Cho'Gath for an AP bruiser guy.


RoA, Triforce, Atmas. Always be beast, do any damage to everyone, np.
(srsly do whatever the fuck you want. Force of Atmogs is fun, too e.g. - random Deathcap is pro, Ghostblade is imba, TREE DOES NOT CARE AT ALL - I have yet to build an IE tho. >_>)


No, srsly, Maokai is probably my #1 fav champ in the game atm. HE CAN DO SO MUCH COOL STUFF.

Once you manage to hit saplings you can also abuse the fuck out of that 1.0 AP skill. <3



To those who lane him top: That's the only role I'm having trouble playing him so far. I feel his sustain is shitty compared to strong sustain champs (WW/Udyr/relia/Yorick) and his burst is mediocre compared to people who burst well and hard early on. (Talon, Panth, Jarvan)

I really feel his kit is a tick too weak for most common matchups solo top.


Against who do you root and against who do you route? (them word games, so good)

"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 04 2011 04:27 GMT
#4140
On October 04 2011 13:22 Craton wrote:
Just confirmed they give global exp. Got 30 (no masteries) at ~6 minutes.


oh ok... daniel said they didn't anymore on stream and I was O_o
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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