EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 206
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
You will notice the world "Miracle" dictionary.com also works  Also, go to: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=51 Scroll down. Click "Show all" You will find a [Champion] Chogath thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167312 | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
I have no idea what a Mericle is. | ||
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
On October 04 2011 08:24 sylverfyre wrote: Indeed. Also makes fling have a substantial slow component making escaping from getting thrown into a bad position even more impossible. On the other hand, catalyst is a much nicer early game item, especially for singed, than giant's belt. Maybe I suck at farming but I felt that going cata->rylais->def was a lot slower than cata->rod->def, and felt too squishy while building it. Rushing rylais was just horrible. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On October 04 2011 10:28 Ryuu314 wrote: Because his kit revolves around very spammable spells that give +mspd, slow, and sustain. Either the damage numbers are low and he does no damage and/or the mana costs are high and he goes oom instantly OR the damage numbers are high and he wears you down super fast and/or the mana costs are low and he spams you out of lane while staying full hp. IMO, they should just completely remake his E. Make it do something other than sustain. The whole idea of a spammy champ that constantly summons shit is cool, just not when it also makes him immovable in lane. It's almost as bad as pre-nerf Landyr. They should make it deal damage and drain mana or smth rather than dealing damage and healing Yorick. It's the Omen of Famine so making it drain mana so you "starve" your opponent of energy would be cool. Either way, E's design atm is just quite broken. I don't think that Riot would ever make Yorick's E drain mana. They reworked Wit's End so it wouldn't have the same effect after all >_> | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 04 2011 10:28 Ryuu314 wrote: Because his kit revolves around very spammable spells that give +mspd, slow, and sustain. Either the damage numbers are low and he does no damage and/or the mana costs are high and he goes oom instantly OR the damage numbers are high and he wears you down super fast and/or the mana costs are low and he spams you out of lane while staying full hp. I believe this one is possible to balance if you say "fuck letting him lane" and balance around him being a jungler. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On October 04 2011 10:41 TheYango wrote: I believe this one is possible to balance if you say "fuck letting him lane" and balance around him being a jungler. great idea, cause there are so many junglers who are balanced around jungling who don't end up being OP as balls in top lane. there's uhhh... let's see... mmm... ... .. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
@Mogwai: Skarner and Wukong aren't so bad in lane, but arguably this is more due to their lackluster stats until their buffs. You could probably argue that Olaf and Rammus fare better in the jungle due to their kits. | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On October 04 2011 11:00 mrgerry wrote: Amumu wins the shitty lane and strong jungler award! Except if your name is Ootah :o | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
i seen lane rammus FB lane vlad, #1 IMO olaf real strong in top lane cause brees and spud say so wukong can't jungle or lane, just real shitty champ unfortunately. who's skarner? | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
His ghouls provide absolutely no gameplay. They're just miserable to play against, he casts a spell and the damn ghoul chases you around. You either run him out of mana or you don't, you're too busy CSing while being chased to actually fight HIM so there's no interaction. It's also stupidly repetitive. In teamfights you'd be crazy to attack them so there's no gameplay there either. His ult is lame and unsatisfying. He has tranfusion. Putting transfusion in the game once was a mistake, putting it in twice and giving it to a tanky dps is just beyond my ability to comprehend. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
And the #1 most annoying thing about yorick are his ghouls. They either need to do like 1 damage per hit or stop prioritizing champions in favor of minions. As is those things just hit way to hard in lane, and you cant kill them cuz they give no gold, are gonna spawn again in 3 seconds, and fuck up your last hitting. | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
Olaf needs his double damage axe back. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On October 04 2011 10:45 Mogwai wrote: great idea, cause there are so many junglers who are balanced around jungling who don't end up being OP as balls in top lane. there's uhhh... let's see... mmm... ... .. Fiddlesticks? At least, I've never seen a good lane fiddle. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 04 2011 10:49 MoonBear wrote: Until Guinsoo's jungle changes, nearly all champions designed for the jungle will inherently be powerful in lane as a result (exceptions apply of course). I touched on it briefly when I talked about the problem with Wriggles and the nature of jungling. No one has yet convinced me that Wriggle's is such an enormous improvement over 3xDBlade that it's absolutely a problem in lane. They're situationally better than one another, but they're close enough that I don't think you can really say laners are significantly stronger with Wriggle's than they would otherwise be. On October 04 2011 11:03 Mogwai wrote: olaf real strong in top lane cause brees and spud say so See, I was going to give examples like Nocturne or Olaf, except for every damn jungler, there's always someone on TL championing them top lane. On October 04 2011 11:07 Two_DoWn wrote: Well, apparently they meant for skarner to be a jungle but fucked his numbers over right before release because he was too fast. Unfortunately, his kit REALLY sucks for a jungle. It makes no sense to me why they would consider Skarner being fast a problem, when Phoenix Udyr is probably the most directly comparable jungler, and also happens to be the fastest or 2nd-fastest commonly picked jungler right now. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
I'm glad that he's being played some in jungle but honestly I think he can probably solo top pretty well against certain match ups. He has a little bit of sustain plus that E is just so fucking good in lane. I think I might start playing him more over Cho'Gath for an AP bruiser guy. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On October 04 2011 11:28 overt wrote: So Maokai is such a fucking boss. Get Rod of Ages and build straight tank is just really strong. I'm glad that he's being played some in jungle but honestly I think he can probably solo top pretty well against certain match ups. He has a little bit of sustain plus that E is just so fucking good in lane. I think I might start playing him more over Cho'Gath for an AP bruiser guy. chu8 got to #1 season 1 by playing solo mid maokai, roa triforce #1 build | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 04 2011 11:28 overt wrote: So Maokai is such a fucking boss. Get Rod of Ages and build straight tank is just really strong. I'm glad that he's being played some in jungle but honestly I think he can probably solo top pretty well against certain match ups. He has a little bit of sustain plus that E is just so fucking good in lane. I think I might start playing him more over Cho'Gath for an AP bruiser guy. AP Bruiser Cho'gath is so last year. Tank->Wit's End Cho is where it's at. EDIT: And playing Maokai top wastes the fact that Jungle Mao has one of the most brutal jungle ganks in the game. | ||
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