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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 16:52:36
September 23 2011 16:50 GMT
#2241
Haha just had our jungle Rammus troll-trade our Ashe at the last second and she accepted. The best part is they both did really well on the champs they weren't supposed to play. Rammus did a great job jungling without smite, too.

"Whyd you trade me retard"
"Why did you accept faggot"
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 17:01:13
September 23 2011 16:51 GMT
#2242
On September 24 2011 01:39 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 01:10 rigwarl wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:18 Slaughter wrote:
I dunno if I am going to survive playing ranked this season. Jesus fucking Christ Solo Q drains your soul/sanity/joy/happiness All of it.


I find solo q to be the most relaxing, to be honest. In multi-queues it tends to be a lot harder to "shed your expectations of other people" and just focus on getting individually better, but in solo q you can drown out everyone else and focus purely on getting better yourself.

The moment you stop feeling the drive to do that, or you find your priorities shifting, I think you need to stop though. Going to solo q intending solely to win is a poisonous attitude, both for yourself and for your team, because you start subconsciously cutting corners to try to eek out silly advantages and end up just playing subpar.


Could you elaborate and/or provide an example on the bolded part? I'm misunderstanding what you mean, because anything that gives you an advantage, no matter how "silly" it is, does not seem subpar to me.

You try to get said advantages but you don't get them so you end up behind.


no... that's not what he meant
he meant that in solo queue you do stuff like take the carry's farm or KS early kills as the jungler because the carry is doing poorly. in a competitive game you'd need to give the farm to the carry anyways and catch them up to speed, not bury them further by taking their farm. but in solo queue you can get away with it because you can punish 5 bads on the other team by playing desperately rather than intelligently

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V yeah and what bp said too
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 17:04:34
September 23 2011 16:57 GMT
#2243
I think he was more talking about stuff like, in solo q a lot of people (mid/top) don't buy enough wards and just figure others will (support/jungler), so they end up cutting out maybe a few hundred gold in wards in their builds but end up fucking themselves and their team over in the long run by not seeing ganks, counterjungling, giving up map control etc.
I've honestly known people who don't want to spend the few hundred gold on a wards cause it will "put them behind on their build" I'm just like ......... e.e

That's just a random example though.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 23 2011 17:00 GMT
#2244
On September 24 2011 01:50 HazMat wrote:
Haha just had our jungle Rammus troll-trade our Ashe at the last second and she accepted. The best part is they both did really well on the champs they weren't supposed to play. Rammus did a great job jungling without smite, too.

"Whyd you trade me retard"
"Why did you accept faggot"


You're just making people jealous of your games.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 23 2011 17:19 GMT
#2245
On September 24 2011 01:10 rigwarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:18 Slaughter wrote:
I dunno if I am going to survive playing ranked this season. Jesus fucking Christ Solo Q drains your soul/sanity/joy/happiness All of it.


I find solo q to be the most relaxing, to be honest. In multi-queues it tends to be a lot harder to "shed your expectations of other people" and just focus on getting individually better, but in solo q you can drown out everyone else and focus purely on getting better yourself.

The moment you stop feeling the drive to do that, or you find your priorities shifting, I think you need to stop though. Going to solo q intending solely to win is a poisonous attitude, both for yourself and for your team, because you start subconsciously cutting corners to try to eek out silly advantages and end up just playing subpar.


Could you elaborate and/or provide an example on the bolded part? I'm misunderstanding what you mean, because anything that gives you an advantage, no matter how "silly" it is, does not seem subpar to me.


For example you stick around to farm even though 99% of your brain is screaming warning sirens because you know a gank is incoming, but you feel pressured to carry and don't back off. You do this because you're "in a rush" to complete your build and disregard the more level-headed judgment - that losing 30 seconds of farm isn't the end of the world.

Or you fail a gank and end up a level behind the other jungler. Instead of accepting that you're behind and now need to slowly build back up, you try to cut corners to catch up, not trusting that your teammates can carry. You gank again, and if you fail, you shrug your shoulders and post in TL subforum that your teammates sucked. Or you try counterjungling despite being behind, and if you die, you shrug your shoulders and post in TL subforum that your teammates sucked.

You have a 1v3 with the need to defend tower, and you're able to clear creep but the other team has two supports protecting their carry, so they're free-farming 3v1. Instead of trusting that your team is "making stuff happen" with their newfound 4v2 you get agitated and attempt to eek out creep stats (taking significant damage in the process), and/or just lunge at them 1v3 in an effort to make a miracle happen. And then you die, blame your teammates for not helping, and post in TL subforum that your teammates sucked.

etc. etc.

In all these cases people are so hung-up with distrust and their rush to "carry the game for their teammates" that they blow off obvious plays and do stupid plays. You'll see this happen to OTHER people in your games a lot too, because everyone starts thinking the same way.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 23 2011 17:20 GMT
#2246
On September 24 2011 02:00 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 01:50 HazMat wrote:
Haha just had our jungle Rammus troll-trade our Ashe at the last second and she accepted. The best part is they both did really well on the champs they weren't supposed to play. Rammus did a great job jungling without smite, too.

"Whyd you trade me retard"
"Why did you accept faggot"


You're just making people jealous of your games.

I should stream. I sing a lot when I play though so I don't want to go through the embarrassment.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 17:23:59
September 23 2011 17:23 GMT
#2247
As long as you sing 'Be a man' when you play Xin I think everybody'll go along.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 23 2011 17:31 GMT
#2248
On September 24 2011 02:23 Alaric wrote:
As long as you sing 'Be a man' when you play Xin I think everybody'll go along.


Dude, I sing be a man even when I'm not playing Xin.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 23 2011 17:33 GMT
#2249
On September 24 2011 02:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:23 Alaric wrote:
As long as you sing 'Be a man' when you play Xin I think everybody'll go along.


Dude, I sing be a man even when I'm not playing Xin.


Like when you stick your laptop in the freezer after it overheats? :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#2250
On September 24 2011 02:33 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
On September 24 2011 02:23 Alaric wrote:
As long as you sing 'Be a man' when you play Xin I think everybody'll go along.


Dude, I sing be a man even when I'm not playing Xin.


Like when you stick your laptop in the freezer after it overheats? :p

BRILLIANT!
It's your boy Guzma!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 23 2011 17:46 GMT
#2251
gentlemen, I'm just giving you the heads up right now that hextech sweeper is costed wayyyyyy too low for some reason. Can't wait to play gragas with it.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 23 2011 17:49 GMT
#2252
On September 24 2011 02:33 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
On September 24 2011 02:23 Alaric wrote:
As long as you sing 'Be a man' when you play Xin I think everybody'll go along.


Dude, I sing be a man even when I'm not playing Xin.


Like when you stick your laptop in the freezer after it overheats? :p


lol I haven't done that in a few months actually. I have a mini-fan running on it 24/7 now so it doesn't overheat.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
September 23 2011 17:55 GMT
#2253
On September 24 2011 02:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:33 Southlight wrote:
On September 24 2011 02:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
On September 24 2011 02:23 Alaric wrote:
As long as you sing 'Be a man' when you play Xin I think everybody'll go along.


Dude, I sing be a man even when I'm not playing Xin.


Like when you stick your laptop in the freezer after it overheats? :p


lol I haven't done that in a few months actually. I have a mini-fan running on it 24/7 now so it doesn't overheat.

hi i put my wireless card next to a cup of ice water 24/7 so it doesn't overheat!! bff
:)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 23 2011 18:08 GMT
#2254
unichan has 4 boifriends now.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
September 23 2011 18:58 GMT
#2255
On September 24 2011 02:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
gentlemen, I'm just giving you the heads up right now that hextech sweeper is costed wayyyyyy too low for some reason. Can't wait to play gragas with it.

How so? My spreadsheet says that the item (ignoring the vision stuff) is costed about normally, and as far as I can see the stats in-game match what I have entered. It's about as efficient relative to other items as Needlessly Large Rod is.
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volcryn
Profile Joined November 2010
United States149 Posts
September 23 2011 20:04 GMT
#2256
I would like to establish that jungle morde no longer works. Tis a sad day - the nerf to his shield generation also applied to jungle monsters.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17263 Posts
September 23 2011 20:13 GMT
#2257
On September 23 2011 09:22 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 09:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
On September 23 2011 08:41 unichan wrote:
On September 23 2011 07:44 MoonBear wrote:
Just out of interest, I decided to do a simple analysis on the popularity of some of TL's biggest Threads. I complied 3 statistics: View, Posts and Views per Posts. Let's call the third statistic the Intertia Ratio, or IR. The IR is interesting because it shows how "bothered" people are to post in a thread, or how much they care about the thread. The lower the number, the more likely people are to be bothered to post in the thread and contribute. You can also think of it as a measure of the thread's productivity.

This was all correct as of 0715 KST 23rd September 2011. I've only included LoL General Discussion Threads since the subforum was created.

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Some interesting observations:
  • Despite being a reasonably young sub-forum, the General Discussion Threads combined rival many of the other established threads on TL.
  • The people in the LoL Threads tend to be more engaged with the threads they read compared to other parts of TL, as it takes less views on average before someone contributes.
  • Every 6 months, we probably produce more content than the entirety of most threads on TL.
  • The people in this sub-forum really like LoL. Like, [insert your choice of expletive/surprise], we like really like LoL.

i really like my kmd

As do I.

well i post in it more!

I've got you both beat.

On September 23 2011 09:48 BlackMagister wrote:
In games when you don't have a jungler (which is common pre-30) wouldn't it be best to have 1 top, 2 middle and 2 bottom to have better dragon control. For some reason it's always been natural for two to go top instead of middle probably because of how long the path is for top. I guess at lower levels players don't always take advantage of dragon being open for the taking anyways.

It's much easier to zone and poke someone from top than middle. Dragon control isn't really a concept that lower levels understand, anyway.
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Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 20:27:56
September 23 2011 20:23 GMT
#2258
omg o_o won 3 accelerated ELO games in a row. For the first time solo queue is a positive experience, lol.

edit: how many games does it take to completely go down to 11-13elo per game?
derp
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
September 23 2011 20:24 GMT
#2259
On September 24 2011 02:19 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 01:10 rigwarl wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:18 Slaughter wrote:
I dunno if I am going to survive playing ranked this season. Jesus fucking Christ Solo Q drains your soul/sanity/joy/happiness All of it.


I find solo q to be the most relaxing, to be honest. In multi-queues it tends to be a lot harder to "shed your expectations of other people" and just focus on getting individually better, but in solo q you can drown out everyone else and focus purely on getting better yourself.

The moment you stop feeling the drive to do that, or you find your priorities shifting, I think you need to stop though. Going to solo q intending solely to win is a poisonous attitude, both for yourself and for your team, because you start subconsciously cutting corners to try to eek out silly advantages and end up just playing subpar.


Could you elaborate and/or provide an example on the bolded part? I'm misunderstanding what you mean, because anything that gives you an advantage, no matter how "silly" it is, does not seem subpar to me.


stuff


Thanks, good explanation.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 23 2011 20:46 GMT
#2260
On September 24 2011 05:23 Jaso wrote:
omg o_o won 3 accelerated ELO games in a row. For the first time solo queue is a positive experience, lol.

edit: how many games does it take to completely go down to 11-13elo per game?

Hmm... that would be 10 games iirc.
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